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#61 DMS

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 12:34 PM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Mar 2 2010, 08:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
DMS Ledger as I said told me that there had been an error in translation.
'an error in translation my ######' looks like it's saying he's lying to me.

LOST IN TRANSLATION.
RFL bloke. "Aye mate they don't have to get to a Grand final, never did have to . Thought everyone knew that. There's a few things we want em to do but grand finals, nah mate".
League Express bloke. "Cheers for that i'll get back to the office, i'll be in time for this weeks edition, catch ya later".
J Ledger. Don't know where this came from Chris, what our guy said was " Off course they have to get to a grand final, it's one of our main qualification points, the reporter must have heard it wrong. Could have been LOST IN TRANSLATION mate"
Is this between RFL double speak and English then Chris.
And before you go off on one, yes it's tongue in cheek.
By the way, the Toulouse chairman was quoted as saying that they had known all along that they didn't have to get to a final to get into SL. What he actually said was " this year i'm going to Bermuda for my hols and i've just bought a nice pair of shorts for the beach".
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#62 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 12:52 PM

QUOTE (DMS @ Mar 2 2010, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOST IN TRANSLATION.
RFL bloke. "Aye mate they don't have to get to a Grand final, never did have to . Thought everyone knew that. There's a few things we want em to do but grand finals, nah mate".
League Express bloke. "Cheers for that i'll get back to the office, i'll be in time for this weeks edition, catch ya later".
J Ledger. Don't know where this came from Chris, what our guy said was " Off course they have to get to a grand final, it's one of our main qualification points, the reporter must have heard it wrong. Could have been LOST IN TRANSLATION mate"
Is this between RFL double speak and English then Chris.
And before you go off on one, yes it's tongue in cheek.
By the way, the Toulouse chairman was quoted as saying that they had known all along that they didn't have to get to a final to get into SL. What he actually said was " this year i'm going to Bermuda for my hols and i've just bought a nice pair of shorts for the beach".
"LOST IN TRANSLATION MY AR$E"

er no

anyway glad to have been of help.
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#63 DMS

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 01:21 PM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Mar 2 2010, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
er no

anyway glad to have been of help.

Chris, if i'm ever upto my neck in quicksand you can rest assured i won't be calling for your help. You'd probably think my call for help was actually me saying "I'm ok mate, i like to spend me hols upto me neck in quicksand, just get me a cornetto".
Chances are i'd end up in head first with you using my toes to count to more than twenty!!!!! biggrin.gif
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Posted 02 March 2010 - 01:51 PM

QUOTE (DMS @ Mar 2 2010, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Chris, if i'm ever upto my neck in quicksand you can rest assured i won't be calling for your help. You'd probably think my call for help was actually me saying "I'm ok mate, i like to spend me hols upto me neck in quicksand, just get me a cornetto".
Chances are i'd end up in head first with you using my toes to count to more than twenty!!!!! biggrin.gif

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 02:17 PM

QUOTE (DMS @ Mar 2 2010, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Chris, if i'm ever upto my neck in quicksand you can rest assured i won't be calling for your help. You'd probably think my call for help was actually me saying "I'm ok mate, i like to spend me hols upto me neck in quicksand, just get me a cornetto".
Chances are i'd end up in head first with you using my toes to count to more than twenty!!!!! biggrin.gif

what flavour do you like? biggrin.gif
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#66 Terry Mullaney

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 02:28 PM

Here's what really happened according to Martyn Sadler...

Just to clarify how this story unfolded, and why we decided to print it.

Mike Rylance, who specialises in French Rugby League for us, read an online report in the Midi-Olympique newspaper that had quotes from Gilles Dumas, the Toulouse coach, that appeared to suggest that his club didn't have to reach the Grand Final to qualify to make an application to Super League.
He telephoned the Toulouse Chairman, Carlos Zalduendo, who confirmed that he understood that Toulouse didn't have to reach the Grand Final to qualify to make an application for Super League.
Mike then telephoned the RFL Media Manager John Ledger, who promised to get back to him to confirm or otherwise the veracity of this particular interpretation.
John then got back in touch with Mike, and confirmed that Carlos' view was the correct interpretation. That was after John spoke to a senior official at the RFL who confirmed that version of the truth.
John and Mike have both confirmed this version of events with me, but John is not prepared to name the RFL official who confirmed that Toulouse would not have to reach the Grand Final.
Subsequently, on Monday, John issued a press release on behalf of the RFL saying quite bluntly that Toulouse do have to reach the Grand Final "contrary to some reports".
The press release did not make it clear that those "reports" had actually originated from the RFL itself, and it made it look as though League Express had simply printed a story that wasn't true.
Clearly I was less than happy with the RFL not acknowledging that it had given our reporter the wrong information, although John subsequently apologised to me, as I said earlier in this thread.


The integrity of those running the sport has to be in serious doubt I would suggest. Like you said Dave... "LOST IN TRANSLATION MY AR$E"

Edited by Terry Mullaney, 02 March 2010 - 02:31 PM.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 02:31 PM

Terry. I've held in contempt those runninbg our sport for a long while now! Another incident of this nature, sadly, does not come as a surprise.
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Posted 02 March 2010 - 02:41 PM

QUOTE (Terry Mullaney @ Mar 2 2010, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's what really happened according to Martyn Sadler...

Just to clarify how this story unfolded, and why we decided to print it.

Mike Rylance, who specialises in French Rugby League for us, read an online report in the Midi-Olympique newspaper that had quotes from Gilles Dumas, the Toulouse coach, that appeared to suggest that his club didn't have to reach the Grand Final to qualify to make an application to Super League.
He telephoned the Toulouse Chairman, Carlos Zalduendo, who confirmed that he understood that Toulouse didn't have to reach the Grand Final to qualify to make an application for Super League.
Mike then telephoned the RFL Media Manager John Ledger, who promised to get back to him to confirm or otherwise the veracity of this particular interpretation.
John then got back in touch with Mike, and confirmed that Carlos' view was the correct interpretation. That was after John spoke to a senior official at the RFL who confirmed that version of the truth.
John and Mike have both confirmed this version of events with me, but John is not prepared to name the RFL official who confirmed that Toulouse would not have to reach the Grand Final.
Subsequently, on Monday, John issued a press release on behalf of the RFL saying quite bluntly that Toulouse do have to reach the Grand Final "contrary to some reports".
The press release did not make it clear that those "reports" had actually originated from the RFL itself, and it made it look as though League Express had simply printed a story that wasn't true.
Clearly I was less than happy with the RFL not acknowledging that it had given our reporter the wrong information, although John subsequently apologised to me, as I said earlier in this thread.


The integrity of those running the sport has to be in serious doubt I would suggest. Like you said Dave... "LOST IN TRANSLATION MY AR$E"


so Toulouse can get into SL without a GF then? No they can't.
somebody messed up through poor communication. people mess up
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Posted 02 March 2010 - 02:51 PM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Mar 2 2010, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
so Toulouse can get into SL without a GF then? No they can't.
somebody messed up through poor communication. people mess up

ALERT! ALERT! ALERT!
"LOST IN TRANSLATION" has now been downgraded to merely "POOR COMMUNICATION"
The forum status has now gone from LEVEL 1 (red alert) to LEVEL 3 (amber alert). But stay alert people.
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#70 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 03:04 PM

QUOTE (DMS @ Mar 2 2010, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ALERT! ALERT! ALERT!
"LOST IN TRANSLATION" has now been downgraded to merely "POOR COMMUNICATION"
The forum status has now gone from LEVEL 1 (red alert) to LEVEL 3 (amber alert). But stay alert people.

settle down-poor translation = poor communication.

anyway it's provided the 'forum' with a four page feeding frenzy so what's the sweat?
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#71 DMS

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 03:13 PM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Mar 2 2010, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
settle down-poor translation = poor communication.

anyway it's provided the 'forum' with a four page feeding frenzy so what's the sweat?
happy.gif

You really don't get - humour, irony, jokes or just plain sarcasm do you? It must be a cheerless world you live in Chris. Get ya face muscles to do one of these biggrin.gif
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#72 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 03:25 PM

QUOTE (DMS @ Mar 2 2010, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You really don't get - humour, irony, jokes or just plain sarcasm do you? It must be a cheerless world you live in Chris. Get ya face muscles to do one of these biggrin.gif

you should try reading trigeminal neuralgia biggrin.gif
edit: and my bell's palsy is giving me gyp as well!

Edited by l'angelo mysterioso, 02 March 2010 - 03:27 PM.

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#73 DMS

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 03:38 PM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Mar 2 2010, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you should try reading trigeminal neuralgia biggrin.gif
edit: and my bell's palsy is giving me gyp as well!

If you suffer from trigeminal neuralgia then you have my sympathy, it's an horrible ailment as is Bells palsy. Both are nerve problems if i'm not mistaken.
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Posted 02 March 2010 - 03:59 PM

QUOTE (DMS @ Mar 2 2010, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you suffer from trigeminal neuralgia then you have my sympathy, it's an horrible ailment as is Bells palsy. Both are nerve problems if i'm not mistaken.

you really don't get humour, jokes, sarcasm do you? biggrin.gif

and nerves meaning that you can't smile.

seriously, you are right they are very painful. I wouldn't wish either on anybody.
edit: let's call it a draw eh?

Edited by l'angelo mysterioso, 02 March 2010 - 04:01 PM.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 04:17 PM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Mar 2 2010, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you really don't get humour, jokes, sarcasm do you? biggrin.gif

and nerves meaning that you can't smile.

seriously, you are right they are very painful. I wouldn't wish either on anybody.
edit: let's call it a draw eh?

Only if i can be the away team. Still get winning pay then.
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Posted 02 March 2010 - 04:58 PM

Thanks fellas, where else can you get such fantastic free entertainment? It's priceless.
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Posted 02 March 2010 - 05:09 PM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Mar 1 2010, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sure he would be honoured.
presumably you will be maaking the same insinuations about his honsewsty should the eventuality arsie

I have already told you my remarks were not aimed at him. Please let the message penetrate or are YOU calling me a liar. If he wants to talk face to face bring him on.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 05:18 PM

QUOTE (DMS @ Mar 2 2010, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Only if i can be the away team. Still get winning pay then.

as long as you put a few quid over the bar wink.gif
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#79 guest from down under

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 05:26 PM


2 years ago the championship teams agreed to allow toulouse into camp on condition they wern`t allowed to take the guaranteed place for a qualifying champ side on the next round of super league franchise,even if they won a grand final place they cant throw their hat in the ring for this guaranteed position.If the rl decide to exit more than one sl side toulouse can apply for a licence based in france like any other french club, they havn`t any advantage over any other french side.The rfl would then have to decide if they wanted another french side infront of say widnes or halifax,if only one sl side comes out they cant even apply.

these are not my words but those of someone who should know , if you get my drift .

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 05:35 PM

QUOTE (jamescolin @ Mar 2 2010, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have already told you my remarks were not aimed at him. Please let the message penetrate or are YOU calling me a liar. If he wants to talk face to face bring him on.


Mr Ledger is head of media at the RFL. It is with him that the buck stops, why would you want to aim remarks about a foul up by the RFL's media department at anyone else but him?

Edited by l'angelo mysterioso, 02 March 2010 - 05:35 PM.

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