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#1 Matt J

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 04:18 PM

In the YEP, there was a column with Tommy Haughey, he pointed out that when a dual-reg player comes down to Hunslet, or wherever, a part-time player on pay as you play deals lose out on a weekly wage, whereas the DR player will get paid regardless, I never thought of it from a players point of view properly, and it was a real eye-opener.

With the arguments for and against DR, I thought this point is a crucial one.

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#2 sidnee

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 04:26 PM

The point about dual registartion players is, yes they do help a team to win and show the skills of a higher league.

However, as Leigh are now finding out do absolutely nothing to progress a team as when they are not playing (injured, recalled, etc) the team is like any other in this division, or probably worse. You then see a team of part time players who have good skills, but the majority not good enough to play in the top flight.

What would happen if a CC coach just 'borrowed' the Wigan first team to overturn a large points deficit? I know in reality they can't but 'what if'?

The sooner they scrap it the better!!
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#3 FEV-KT87

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 06:30 PM

when you look at our DR set up i think we have it right 1 player who , no ofence to MIKE , isnt a key player gets gameswhen his form is good enough for us even if he isnt in the leeds setup.

but wen you look at other teams they have several key players on DR and yes it bears fruit...until those players hit form then they are snapped up by their parent club...... its the clubs own fault
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#4 elppaxr2i

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 07:35 PM

Arent manning and sheriffe on DR also?

#5 Robin Evans

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 07:37 PM

no. Only Coady, and I'm not sure we'll see much more of him!
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#6 Matt J

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 08:01 PM

QUOTE (elppaxr2i @ Jun 13 2010, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Arent manning and sheriffe on DR also?


Sheriffe is ours, Manning is on loan, but Sky commentators seem to be convinced he was released by Leeds and signed by us.

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#7 Robin Evans

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 08:05 PM

spot on mathew!
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#8 Matt J

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 08:21 PM

QUOTE (Robin Evans @ Jun 13 2010, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
spot on mathew!


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Posted 14 June 2010 - 09:47 AM

QUOTE (Robin Evans @ Jun 13 2010, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no. Only Coady, and I'm not sure we'll see much more of him!


Why not? What have you heard int grapevine?
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#10 jt

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 07:46 PM

Notice Ged Stokes thought this was a good idea and has now decided it isnt working so he wont be doing it anymore. I he gets a player it will be a loan deal only.

Is this up for debate at the end of the season with the Championship clubs or is it here for good ?

#11 Leyther_Matt

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 09:29 PM

QUOTE (jt @ Jun 14 2010, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Notice Ged Stokes thought this was a good idea and has now decided it isnt working so he wont be doing it anymore. I he gets a player it will be a loan deal only

What you have to bear in mind is that 'Haven can't afford such players anyroad, hence why they cancelled McNally's dual contract if memory serves me right.

I thought we'd taken a good tactic with the likes of Emmitt and Mitchell who, at the start of the season, seemed they would only be recalled in the most desperate of situations, but instead they've stepped up to Super League level and now we're missing them hugely, as would any side who suddenly finds some of their best players playing at the top level week-in, week out!

#12 DMS

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 11:52 AM

Stop dual registration NOW. It only benefits SL clubs.
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#13 Matt J

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 01:53 PM

QUOTE (DMS @ Jun 15 2010, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Stop dual registration NOW. It only benefits SL clubs.


I'd argue that it doesnt in the long run, Shaun Ainscough looks like he's been set back by the constant switching around this year, I cant see how that benefits Wigan.

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#14 Leyther_Matt

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 09:35 PM

QUOTE (Matt J @ Jun 15 2010, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd argue that it doesnt in the long run, Shaun Ainscough looks like he's been set back by the constant switching around this year, I cant see how that benefits Wigan.

That wasn't just the dual contract system though as he was on loan at Cas as well - if you include Wigan reserves then he's played for four different sides this year!

#15 Matt J

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 11:27 PM

QUOTE (Leyther_Matt @ Jun 15 2010, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That wasn't just the dual contract system though as he was on loan at Cas as well - if you include Wigan reserves then he's played for four different sides this year!


Aye, but if the DR system didnt exist, he'd be on loan at Widnes, and couldnt be loaned out elsewhere, for me the DR system is too 'slack', the point of going on loan when you're young is learning about how clubs work, gaining experience at other clubs (not just match experience), you dont get this really with Dual Registration, im just not a fan of it.

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