Native New Yorker Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Who in their right minds is saying that Saints v Wigan is not a derby? SQL Minor Stupidship winner 2011, 2012 Stupid Grand Champion 2012 Challenged Cup Winner 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Who in their right minds is saying that Saints v Wigan is not a derby? Me and a couple of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amm Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Who in their right minds is saying that Saints v Wigan is not a derby? It's not a derby, it's traditionally an important game between two top teams who happen to be in close proximity to each other geographically ie Man Utd v Liverpool A derby would be Man Utd v Man City Whilst I do not suffer fools gladly, I will always gladly make fools suffer A man is getting along on the road of wisdom when he realises that his opinion is just an opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padge Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 How big's "an area"? Any distance covers "an area". I want more specifics than "an area". same area, and if you can't work out what that means I'm afraid I cannot help you with your numptiness. Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Is Man U v Liverpool a derby? After all they are both from the same"area". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 same area, and if you can't work out what that means I'm afraid I cannot help you with your numptiness. So someone disagrees with Padge and they are a numpty. Says it all really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padge Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Is Man U v Liverpool a derby? After all they are both from the same"area". It is sometimes refered to as a derby. Man U v Arsenal never is. Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 It is sometimes refered to as a derby. By Padge so that means it IS a derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padge Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 So someone disagrees with Padge and they are a numpty. Says it all really. You are the one being silly by pretending you don't know what the same area means, if you are not being silly then you are indeed showing symptoms of numptiness. Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 You are the one being silly by pretending you don't know what the same area means, if you are not being silly then you are indeed showing symptoms of numptiness. And you are the one being vague in your attempts to prove a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padge Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 By Padge so that means it IS a derby. No, not by me. On TV I have often heard that game refered to as the big North West derby game. Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Native New Yorker Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 What is the biggest club nearest to Wigan? I rest my case. SQL Minor Stupidship winner 2011, 2012 Stupid Grand Champion 2012 Challenged Cup Winner 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 No, not by me. On TV I have often heard that game refered to as the big North West derby game. Ah! So we now cover the whole of the North West in our attempts to include tenuous matches as derbies. So is Oldham v Widnes a derby? Or Rochdale v Warrington? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 What is the biggest club nearest to Wigan? I rest my case. So if there were a small cub nearer than St Helens to Wigan i.e. Leigh for example (please forgive me if St Helens is closer than Leigh as I'm not an expert on NW geography) then they wouldn't count because they aren't big enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padge Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Ah! So we now cover the whole of the North West in our attempts to include tenuous matches as derbies. So is Oldham v Widnes a derby? Or Rochdale v Warrington? Go back and read what I posted properly. When you have mastered the English language get back to me. Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Native New Yorker Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Ah! So we now cover the whole of the North West in our attempts to include tenuous matches as derbies. So is Oldham v Widnes a derby? Or Rochdale v Warrington? I don't think you can equate football derbies with RL. The point is that a local derby is normally the team that is geographically closest to you in the same league. SQL Minor Stupidship winner 2011, 2012 Stupid Grand Champion 2012 Challenged Cup Winner 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3owls Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Has to be Wigan vs Saints people who think FC vs Kr is bigger, its just not. Biggest crowd in the stadium and at home and i would think by a fer distance As a neutral i'd say at the present time based on crowd size alone there's no competition, hull v hull kr without a shadow of doubt. Wigans stadium and the KC hold roughly the same amount the big difference is that the KC will be packed to the rafters on thursday night while wigan saints was 4-5000 below capacity the other week. As for history and intensity of rivalry there's not much between both games but the hull derby gets it for me on numbers alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallymessenger Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 ive attended 1. hull fc vs kr at the kc 2. wigan vs saints at jjb 3. bradford vs leeds at odsal the hull derby was the best the 2nd best experience ive had at a RL game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldofclothofgold Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 ive attended 1. hull fc vs kr at the kc 2. wigan vs saints at jjb 3. bradford vs leeds at odsal the hull derby was the best the 2nd best experience ive had at a RL game Kingston upon hull tourist board need you Dally. Soon we will be dancing the fandangoFROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB HAS DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESSTHEN i DONT KNOW WHAT IS.JAMIE PEACOCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 I don't think you can equate football derbies with RL. The point is that a local derby is normally the team that is geographically closest to you in the same league. What about the cup? And who will be Leeds U's derby with next season? Huddersfield? Sheff U? Barnsley? Hull City? Doncaster? Middlesborough perhaps. All in the same "area" i.e. Yorkshire. Bradford City are closest but not in the same League - Farsley Celtic are even closer and in the same city. “Few thought him even a starter.There were many who thought themselves smarter. But he ended PM, CH and OM. An Earl and a Knight of the Garter.” Clement Attlee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padge Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 What about the cup? And who will be Leeds U's derby with next season? Huddersfield? Sheff U? Barnsley? Hull City? Doncaster? Middlesborough perhaps. All in the same "area" i.e. Yorkshire. Bradford City are closest but not in the same League - Farsley Celtic are even closer and in the same city. It's not compulsary to have a derby game. Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Frightful Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 The only way that Wigan vs Saints could be classed as a Derby game is if they played it at Pride Park.... Seriously though, Hull vs Hull KR is the epitome of a derby, as is Sheff Utd vs Sheff Wed, Liverpool vs Everton, Bristol R****s vs Bristol City, etc, etc.. But I think you can lend the phrase to games like pies-skints because of the size of the game, their reasonably ( ) close proximity and the feelings between the two sets of fans....(not that they ever surface on here, obviously.) Hull FC....The Sons of God... (Well, we are about to be crucified on Good Friday) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallymessenger Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 Kingston upon hull tourist board need you Dally. hulls a nice place. much nicer than many other northern rl towns i visited leeds wasnt bad too, especially the bits ne showed me ie a bar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 It's not compulsary to have a derby game. OK who will be described as Leeds U's derby game “Few thought him even a starter.There were many who thought themselves smarter. But he ended PM, CH and OM. An Earl and a Knight of the Garter.” Clement Attlee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padge Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 OK who will be described as Leeds U's derby game Why should I care, I couldn't give a toss. For some bizarre reason people won't believe what the dictionary tells them, a derby game is not defined as a game between two teams from the same city. The OED says d. Applied to any kind of important sporting contest Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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