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Poll: Wigan Warriors v Warrington Wolves (22 member(s) have cast votes)

Who will win?

  1. Wigan (11 votes [50.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  2. Warrington (8 votes [36.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.36%

  3. Draw (3 votes [13.64%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.64%

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#61 1976PMJwires

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 05:35 AM

Got the result i thought we would, really surprised how often we dropped the ball, but still managed to creep in front.

not happy with a few things, but its 2pts.

On wires the bottlers.................beating Wigan doesn't answer that, we MUST beat Skints and then we may lose that title.



but for now, we have beat our rivals and breathing down their necks.

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 07:31 AM

QUOTE (sam @ Jul 17 2010, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
that wasn't unpleasant.

when we decided to actually play the game rather than try and knock wigan off the park we were good value for the win.

carvell is a liability at times.

westwood would be coveted by everyone if he didn't look like the world's most knackered axe murderer.

harrison's hit would have been infinitely more impressive if it had been on a particularly small ballboy rather than fielden.

wigan are still in transition, but will be almost unbeatable when a few antipodeans join the club.


laugh.gif brilliant

Enjoyed the game , as a neutral it was great.

Wigan could have scored more tries in 1st 20 mins & potentially could have wrapped up the game but credit to Wire who stuck in there

Now that Wire have won that game they dont need to bother beating us ph34r.gif wink.gif tongue.gif
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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:27 AM

QUOTE (saintsbird @ Jul 17 2010, 08:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wigan could have scored more tries in 1st 20 mins & potentially could have wrapped up the game but credit to Wire who stuck in there

Now that Wire have won that game they dont need to bother beating us ph34r.gif wink.gif tongue.gif

That's the point isn't it, Wigan couldn't have scored more tries as the defence was outstanding (best I have seen this year from us).

Perhaps Wigan should have done better in the opening 20, but they didn't do much wrong. They kept the ball and tried to grind us down. I was worried after 20 with the amount of defensive work we had done and the impact it would have later on, but then Wigan started to make the same forced and unforced errors as us so it balanced out thankfully!

As for your last line, are you getting a touch worried? tongue.gif

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:35 AM

QUOTE (saintsbird @ Jul 17 2010, 08:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
laugh.gif brilliant

Enjoyed the game , as a neutral it was great.

Wigan could have scored more tries in 1st 20 mins & potentially could have wrapped up the game but credit to Wire who stuck in there

Now that Wire have won that game they dont need to bother beating us ph34r.gif wink.gif tongue.gif



Bring on the Skints i say laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

a week before the semi, saints normally rest the big guns, so this game will be very interesting, i can see a wire win against a very young and inexperienced team.



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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:37 AM

QUOTE (1976PMJwires @ Jul 17 2010, 06:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Got the result i thought we would, really surprised how often we dropped the ball, but still managed to creep in front.

not happy with a few things, but its 2pts.

On wires the bottlers.................beating Wigan doesn't answer that, we MUST beat Skints and then we may lose that title.



but for now, we have beat our rivals and breathing down their necks.

I think the label of bottlers can only be aimed at one team at this current time. Of wigans last three games against the big boys,

Leeds = LOST

st helens = LOST

warrington = LOST

you do the maths.

#66 1976PMJwires

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:41 AM

QUOTE (3owls @ Jul 17 2010, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the label of bottlers can only be aimed at one team at this current time. Of wigans last three games against the big boys,

Leeds = LOST ...........not in the league thou.

st helens = LOST

warrington = LOST

you do the maths.



Well done, that's easy to point out....... but they aren't bottlers.

FFS! they are top of the league, have been the most consistant team all season, so what does that say about the other 13 clubs..................????

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:56 AM

QUOTE (3owls @ Jul 17 2010, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the label of bottlers can only be aimed at one team at this current time. Of wigans last three games against the big boys,

Leeds = LOST

st helens = LOST

warrington = LOST

you do the maths.


Do they publish league tables in Yorkshire?

#68 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:58 AM

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Do they publish league tables in Yorkshire?

Yes but 3owls is an illiterate buffoon.
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Posted 17 July 2010 - 09:07 AM

QUOTE (terrywebbisgod @ Jul 17 2010, 09:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes but 3owls is an illiterate buffoon.

Can't really see from my post how you can question my literacy mr brown nose but you're entitled to your opinion. The point is for "slow" lads like you that warrington were classed on this very forum as being bottlers for their inability to beat the supposed "big three". All i've done is quoted wigans last three results against the "big three". Understand now? Feel free to answer or carry on name calling like a likkle baby,it's up to you.

#70 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 09:24 AM

QUOTE (3owls @ Jul 17 2010, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can't really see from my post how you can question my literacy mr brown nose but you're entitled to your opinion. The point is for "slow" lads like you that warrington were classed on this very forum as being bottlers for their inability to beat the supposed "big three". All i've done is quoted wigans last three results against the "big three". Understand now? Feel free to answer or carry on name calling like a likkle baby,it's up to you.

No brown nosing from me mate, just try and recognise a good team when you see it.Forget about the defeat a the DW did we.That is all.
Remind me never to cross swords with a giant intellect like yours again tongue.gif

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 09:48 AM

QUOTE (Dave T @ Jul 17 2010, 10:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's the point isn't it, Wigan couldn't have scored more tries as the defence was outstanding (best I have seen this year from us).


you think? i thought they were poor in attack in that opening 20. it's ok using richards' height to launch the ball to, however, he was up against king who can also leap a bit which meant richards never got a clear chance, whereas if they'd have gone to the opposite wing they'd have discovered a munchkin over there!

our defence really stepped up after that, only dropping off when tomkins launched his 'pass of the century' to set up their 2nd try.

solomona was a waste of a bench spot, it wasn't a game for him, i think there was only 2 offloads made all game.



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Posted 17 July 2010 - 10:17 AM

QUOTE (sam @ Jul 14 2010, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yeah, that's exactly the sort of criteria to judge the outcome of the game on!




Sam, i guess you did go.........great outcome mate. wink.gif

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 10:55 AM

QUOTE (sam @ Jul 17 2010, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you think? i thought they were poor in attack in that opening 20. it's ok using richards' height to launch the ball to, however, he was up against king who can also leap a bit which meant richards never got a clear chance, whereas if they'd have gone to the opposite wing they'd have discovered a munchkin over there!

our defence really stepped up after that, only dropping off when tomkins launched his 'pass of the century' to set up their 2nd try.

solomona was a waste of a bench spot, it wasn't a game for him, i think there was only 2 offloads made all game.


The amount of possession, and field position Wigan had in the first 20/25 minutes should have yielded more than eight points. Whilst I agree Wigan's attack wasn't the most fluid, weight of possession alone should have made up for that.

It was a very strange first half in that Warrington finally getting to completing their sets, coincided with Wigan starting to drop the ball, quite bizarre really.

I think you are being quite unfair to Solomona, he was brought on to effect some size from the bench, in those conditions, offloads were not really an option.

All-in-all, you can't beat a good intense of RL.

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 11:21 AM

QUOTE (getdownmonkeyman @ Jul 17 2010, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The amount of possession, and field position Wigan had in the first 20/25 minutes should have yielded more than eight points. Whilst I agree Wigan's attack wasn't the most fluid, weight of possession alone should have made up for that.

it should have done, but it didn't. i don't think they forced one goal line drop out in that period. yes, we tackled, but they weren't tackles that left our line exposed.
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I think you are being quite unfair to Solomona, he was brought on to effect some size from the bench, in those conditions, offloads were not really an option.

i didn't mean he was poor, but it wasn't the kind of game he thrives in, he's 'made' for a more open/broken game where he can be devastating, tackling and getting back the 10 isn't his game.

still, who cares!


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Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:07 PM

wow - enthralling game, ridiculous amount of Wire mistakes in the first 20 minutes add in some poor discipline and it felt like it was going to be one of those nights - expectation high, performance lacking. One or two Wire players will need to question some of their actions and decisions. However, generally the defence was awesome and made Wigan look short on ideas. Some fantastic, legal, hits on both sides. Wigan's mistake rate caught up later.

Hicks on end of very well worked try, Riley so determined to catch Richards deserved a bit more luck for all that effort and what a defence splitting pass from Riley for Westwood try. Briers and those kicks for Myler caused chaos.

Game 1 of a big month out the way. I think unlikely that Wigan will lose top place but as I was reminded last night Wigan have trips to Hull and Leeds to come ... so maybe not quite over yet

Well done Wire and the massed ranks for fantastic support! Now the Wire!

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:33 PM

QUOTE (adelwire @ Jul 17 2010, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wow - enthralling game, ridiculous amount of Wire mistakes in the first 20 minutes add in some poor discipline and it felt like it was going to be one of those nights - expectation high, performance lacking. One or two Wire players will need to question some of their actions and decisions. However, generally the defence was awesome and made Wigan look short on ideas. Some fantastic, legal, hits on both sides. Wigan's mistake rate caught up later.

Hicks on end of very well worked try, Riley so determined to catch Richards deserved a bit more luck for all that effort and what a defence splitting pass from Riley for Westwood try. Briers and those kicks for Myler caused chaos.

Game 1 of a big month out the way. I think unlikely that Wigan will lose top place but as I was reminded last night Wigan have trips to Hull and Leeds to come ... so maybe not quite over yet

Well done Wire and the massed ranks for fantastic support! Now the Wire!


Despite being short of ideas Wigan came pretty close to victory last night. An attacking scrum after the Farrell video ref decision and Carmont tip toeing in field and you're weeping into your Tetley's. the better team won but it looked close from my seat. I appreciate that massed ranks is to do with density rather than numbers, but it was a shame to see so many empty seats in the Wire end.
The last 3 teams that have beaten Wigan have stuttered in the weeks afterwards. If Wire can sustain that form for the next 7 games then they will be a better team than they have shown yet. If though they lose one more league game and one Cup game in that time you can re-watc the video all you like and it won't have made any difference. That is some challenge, especially for a team that looks to players far closer the end than the beginning of their careers for inspiration.
You see in football teams heading for trebles end up falling short on all fronts.
If they can win all their next 7 games then Wire will be some team. I wouldn't bet on it though.

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:33 PM

QUOTE (adelwire @ Jul 17 2010, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wow - enthralling game, ridiculous amount of Wire mistakes in the first 20 minutes add in some poor discipline and it felt like it was going to be one of those nights - expectation high, performance lacking. One or two Wire players will need to question some of their actions and decisions. However, generally the defence was awesome and made Wigan look short on ideas. Some fantastic, legal, hits on both sides. Wigan's mistake rate caught up later.

Hicks on end of very well worked try, Riley so determined to catch Richards deserved a bit more luck for all that effort and what a defence splitting pass from Riley for Westwood try. Briers and those kicks for Myler caused chaos.

Game 1 of a big month out the way. I think unlikely that Wigan will lose top place but as I was reminded last night Wigan have trips to Hull and Leeds to come ... so maybe not quite over yet

Well done Wire and the massed ranks for fantastic support! Now the Wire!


Despite being short of ideas Wigan came pretty close to victory last night. An attacking scrum after the Farrell video ref decision and Carmont tip toeing in field and you're weeping into your Tetley's. the better team won but it looked close from my seat. I appreciate that massed ranks is to do with density rather than numbers, but it was a shame to see so many empty seats in the Wire end.
The last 3 teams that have beaten Wigan have stuttered in the weeks afterwards. If Wire can sustain that form for the next 7 games then they will be a better team than they have shown yet. If though they lose one more league game and one Cup game in that time you can re-watc the video all you like and it won't have made any difference. That is some challenge, especially for a team that looks to players far closer the end than the beginning of their careers for inspiration.
You see in football teams heading for trebles end up falling short on all fronts.
If they can win all their next 7 games then Wire will be some team. I wouldn't bet on it though.

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 01:13 PM

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That is some challenge, especially for a team that looks to players far closer the end than the beginning of their careers for inspiration.


indeed. makes you wonder why mcguire shifted tomkins to full back, he'd have learnt a lot from an old ###### like briers. again.

it seems the old 'we've never trained as hard' gubbins when a new coach comes in may not be as true as first thought. wire were fitter and had enough class to get home.


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#79 1976PMJwires

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 01:14 PM

QUOTE (Exiled Wiganer @ Jul 17 2010, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Despite being short of ideas Wigan came pretty close to victory last night. An attacking scrum after the Farrell video ref decision and Carmont tip toeing in field and you're weeping into your Tetley's. the better team won but it looked close from my seat. I appreciate that massed ranks is to do with density rather than numbers, but it was a shame to see so many empty seats in the Wire end.
The last 3 teams that have beaten Wigan have stuttered in the weeks afterwards. If Wire can sustain that form for the next 7 games then they will be a better team than they have shown yet. If though they lose one more league game and one Cup game in that time you can re-watc the video all you like and it won't have made any difference. That is some challenge, especially for a team that looks to players far closer the end than the beginning of their careers for inspiration.
You see in football teams heading for trebles end up falling short on all fronts.
If they can win all their next 7 games then Wire will be some team. I wouldn't bet on it though.


so we didn't sell all our seats, who have this year???+ cats next week and then a semi (again) people cutting their cloth to suit them, not you.

if but and maybe, always happens in matches.....so please don't be bitter.
wires were there for the taking last night and you failed.....end of.
don't worry about the age of our team, worry about your failings.

Edited by 1976PMJwires, 17 July 2010 - 01:15 PM.


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Posted 17 July 2010 - 01:21 PM

A small catch.
The better team won, absolutely. What it ultimately means will become apparent in the next 7 weeks.
I have no worries for the future - we may well add Hock, Hoffman, Lima, Finch and Quinn in place of Fielden's contract, Feca, Bailey, Phelps and Deacon. Hard to be pessimistic with an outlook like that.