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Wigan Warriors v Warrington Wolves
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ckn
, Jul 14 2010 08:17 AM
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#141
Posted 18 July 2010 - 11:50 PM
QUOTE (Exiled Wiganer @ Jul 18 2010, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
2 - I am not sure how you could have heard any Wiganers singing after a game given that they had all left by your own account long before the game ended. Maybe you heard the echo of massed hordes of Wazzerers?
my own account?
foxes or poor people?
#142
Posted 19 July 2010 - 12:18 AM
QUOTE (Hannibal @ Jul 18 2010, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't have an issue with the result at all.
Well done to Warrington.
What I do have an issue with is the usual ###### spouted by Dave "I have one eye open" T, regarding his spotting of Tomkins doing all manner of dirty deeds, yet failing to see Morley taking out both of our half backs on numerous occasions, particularly in the 1st half.
It's not just Wigan that he picks on in this kind of thing, he regularly fails to see any number of misdemeanours perpetrated by Warrington players. He manages all of this without actually ever attending a game, which is almost miraculous.
Anyway, once again, well done to Wire on their win, but I hope you all realise that you are in a glass house, and you should be keeping tight hold of your stones.
Well done to Warrington.
What I do have an issue with is the usual ###### spouted by Dave "I have one eye open" T, regarding his spotting of Tomkins doing all manner of dirty deeds, yet failing to see Morley taking out both of our half backs on numerous occasions, particularly in the 1st half.
It's not just Wigan that he picks on in this kind of thing, he regularly fails to see any number of misdemeanours perpetrated by Warrington players. He manages all of this without actually ever attending a game, which is almost miraculous.
Anyway, once again, well done to Wire on their win, but I hope you all realise that you are in a glass house, and you should be keeping tight hold of your stones.
I genuinely think this game has made you crack up a touch!
Any chance of backing up some of the above? What did I spot about Tomkins?
These were my comments about Tomkins:
Must admit I wasn't happy with that at the time, I was just relieved he wasn't hurt.
then: I don't think it was great, and at the time (with beer and 3D goggles on) I was calling for him to be binned, but then I do think the slow motion replays make it seem worse. It was more the lateness for me, as I don't necessarily think he attacked Myler's head on purpose, although that was the outcome.
I would expect a warning about future conduct tbh.
followed by: As for Tomkins, like I said earlier, I was disappointed with it, and I didn't think there was any need, but let's see what the panel do, and I will accept that.
So from the above, how are your comments about me spotting Tomkins all manner fo dirty deeds? Seriously you need help, as you are reading stuff that isn't there.
Simply because we had a disagreement about Morley and a previous incident, you are too stubborn/stupid to have a sensible conversation about anything else, although that hardly worries me.
As for your pathetic comments about not attending games, I have addressed them elsewhere, and the point certainly isn't worth going over twice.
Edited by Dave T, 19 July 2010 - 12:20 AM.
#143
Posted 19 July 2010 - 06:16 AM
QUOTE (Padge @ Jul 18 2010, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of FFS, here we go again.
Wigan Borough Population 305,600.
Wigan Town Population 81,203
Leigh Town Poulation 43,006
The Borough of Wigan is made up of other townships, Ashton, Standish and Shevington, Hindley, Atherton, Tyldsley, Aspull and Haigh, Golborne etc.
The other townships tend to be added to either Wigan or Leighs populations to give the Wigan Leigh split.
So it now appears that Warrington has over double the population to draw on than the town of Wigan, I gave you the simple breakdown given as a standard split used within Wigan Council.
The office of national stats takes figures for the whole borough by constituancy, you would have to work out where each consituancy was aligned to, Wigan or Leigh, then add up the totals.
When you understand how the stats are compiled and what the numbers you quote actually mean then get back.
Wigan Borough Population 305,600.
Wigan Town Population 81,203
Leigh Town Poulation 43,006
The Borough of Wigan is made up of other townships, Ashton, Standish and Shevington, Hindley, Atherton, Tyldsley, Aspull and Haigh, Golborne etc.
The other townships tend to be added to either Wigan or Leighs populations to give the Wigan Leigh split.
So it now appears that Warrington has over double the population to draw on than the town of Wigan, I gave you the simple breakdown given as a standard split used within Wigan Council.
The office of national stats takes figures for the whole borough by constituancy, you would have to work out where each consituancy was aligned to, Wigan or Leigh, then add up the totals.
When you understand how the stats are compiled and what the numbers you quote actually mean then get back.
ok using that theory, Warrington's in 80661.
but as you know padge you've always had bigger crowds, your boroughs prefer rugby to ours.
this has only come about as your fellow Wiganer (hanibal) said there are more fans walking out of wigan (wigan walk) than actual walk into warrington. (but thats not true!!)
i guess anyone can use stats to their advantage.
So, i think i'll call it a day, plus you are a smart ###### and never ever give up.
(i don't mind using up your time, i have plenty of time on my heads)
Edited by 1976PMJwires, 19 July 2010 - 07:24 AM.
#144
Posted 19 July 2010 - 06:25 AM
QUOTE (getdownmonkeyman @ Jul 18 2010, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Warrington is around the third/fourth largest town in the country.
not true
link :-
http://www.citymayor..._topcities.html
#145
Posted 19 July 2010 - 07:28 AM
QUOTE (1976PMJwires @ Jul 19 2010, 07:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
this has only come about as your fellow Wiganer (hanibal) said there are more fans walking out of wigan (wigan walk) than actual walk into warrington. (but thats not true!!)
It's obviously true, whatever time they start walking out.
#146
Posted 19 July 2010 - 07:36 AM
#147
Posted 19 July 2010 - 07:40 AM
QUOTE (Exiled Wiganer @ Jul 18 2010, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This raises some interesting issues.
1 - good to hear that the violence endemic in virtual Wazza streets did not spill over into virtual Wigan (I was going to write Wigga but I believe that may have other connotations).
2 - I am not sure how you could have heard any Wiganers singing after a game given that they had all left by your own account long before the game ended. Maybe you heard the echo of massed hordes of Wazzerers?
3 - while the supporting cast has been doing a good job of giving vent to their anti-Wigan bile - Wigan walk tick, Sam absolutely dire player tick, Fielden cr.p tick, Joel a violent yob tick (let it all out) - the king of the stirrers is conspicuous by his absence. This coincides with Giwildgo's own absence, we all hope savouring every moment with a new baby pie. That prompts the inevitible thought - could GW amd Wendall be the same person and could Wendall be an imaginary figure of bitterness and stupidity created by him to make us all feel better about ourselves? If so, that is an act of genius.
1 - good to hear that the violence endemic in virtual Wazza streets did not spill over into virtual Wigan (I was going to write Wigga but I believe that may have other connotations).
2 - I am not sure how you could have heard any Wiganers singing after a game given that they had all left by your own account long before the game ended. Maybe you heard the echo of massed hordes of Wazzerers?
3 - while the supporting cast has been doing a good job of giving vent to their anti-Wigan bile - Wigan walk tick, Sam absolutely dire player tick, Fielden cr.p tick, Joel a violent yob tick (let it all out) - the king of the stirrers is conspicuous by his absence. This coincides with Giwildgo's own absence, we all hope savouring every moment with a new baby pie. That prompts the inevitible thought - could GW amd Wendall be the same person and could Wendall be an imaginary figure of bitterness and stupidity created by him to make us all feel better about ourselves? If so, that is an act of genius.
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#148
Posted 19 July 2010 - 10:18 AM
I listened to this match on Radio 5 and reckoned Warrington were going to win after Wigan didn't make enough of their opponents' appalling ball retention in the first half.
I suppose it keeps the top of the table close, but still a bit disappointing.
I suppose it keeps the top of the table close, but still a bit disappointing.
"Journalists are meant to be neutral, for God's sake." - Stephen 'Wiggy' Jones
"Perhaps it would be better that future criticism of sports be made on the narrow basis of what is being discussed, without reference to other sports, unless those sports offer a solution to the problem in hand." - Brian 'Pigface' Moore
"What happens in rugby union? A player takes the ball, moves forward a little and gets tackled. A whole load of players then roll about on the ground. Pheep! The referee gives a penalty." - Simon Barnes
"Perhaps it would be better that future criticism of sports be made on the narrow basis of what is being discussed, without reference to other sports, unless those sports offer a solution to the problem in hand." - Brian 'Pigface' Moore
"What happens in rugby union? A player takes the ball, moves forward a little and gets tackled. A whole load of players then roll about on the ground. Pheep! The referee gives a penalty." - Simon Barnes
#149
Posted 19 July 2010 - 01:26 PM
QUOTE (Padge @ Jul 18 2010, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Regarding the Quinns game, different marketing tactics for different games.
The North Stand for that game would have been closed due to the low number of opposition supporters. The marketing tactic was therefore to sell large bulk blocks of discounted tickets to sponsors and major employers in the borough and put them in the North stand, they could have done the same for the Warrington game but you lot would have moaned about no tickets being available.
18.5k with no away support, 22.5k with 4k away support, seems Wigan can get 18.5k Wiganers in the ground. How many other clubs can claim that.*
*Not Wigan supporters, their own supporters.
Yep, I'm aware of the tactics they used for the Quins game, and have been extremely impressed with the back-room staff at Wigan, my comments were purely based on a post6 about empty seats in the Wire end. Bot sets of fans got behind the game and the concept, and I don't think either club deserves criticism for getting the largest regular SL crowd of the year.The North Stand for that game would have been closed due to the low number of opposition supporters. The marketing tactic was therefore to sell large bulk blocks of discounted tickets to sponsors and major employers in the borough and put them in the North stand, they could have done the same for the Warrington game but you lot would have moaned about no tickets being available.
18.5k with no away support, 22.5k with 4k away support, seems Wigan can get 18.5k Wiganers in the ground. How many other clubs can claim that.*
*Not Wigan supporters, their own supporters.
#150
Posted 19 July 2010 - 05:59 PM
QUOTE (3owls @ Jul 17 2010, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the label of bottlers can only be aimed at one team at this current time. Of wigans last three games against the big boys,
Leeds = LOST
st helens = LOST
warrington = LOST
you do the maths.
Leeds = LOST
st helens = LOST
warrington = LOST
you do the maths.
Like it
#151
Posted 19 July 2010 - 06:04 PM
QUOTE (The Boy Saint @ Jul 19 2010, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like it
I'm glad.
I like this better though. I hope you like it to.
The Truth.
#152
Posted 19 July 2010 - 06:22 PM
QUOTE (Leeds Wire @ Jul 19 2010, 08:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
he said town, not city
indeed he did say town and not city and Warrington isn't in the top 3 or 4 as he suggested.
#153
Posted 19 July 2010 - 06:58 PM
QUOTE (Exiled Wiganer @ Jul 18 2010, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
While the supporting cast has been doing a good job of giving vent to their anti-Wigan bile - Wigan walk tick, Sam absolutely dire player tick, Fielden cr.p tick, Joel a violent yob tick (let it all out) - the king of the stirrers is conspicuous by his absence. This coincides with Giwildgo's own absence, we all hope savouring every moment with a new baby pie. That prompts the inevitible thought - could GW amd Wendall be the same person and could Wendall be an imaginary figure of bitterness and stupidity created by him to make us all feel better about ourselves? If so, that is an act of genius.
PS. false alarm on Friday, so I'm still waiting - continued absence was due to my dismay at the bickering and hyperbole that generally follows a Wigan defeat. Warrington deserved their result on the day - poor tactics and execution from Wigan ultimately cost us.

oderint dum metuant
#154
Posted 19 July 2010 - 07:08 PM
QUOTE (giwildgo @ Jul 19 2010, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
PS. false alarm on Friday, so I'm still waiting - continued absence was due to my dismay at the bickering and hyperbole that generally follows a Wigan defeat. Warrington deserved their result on the day - poor tactics and execution from Wigan ultimately cost us.
I always enjoy your input. A sensible Wigan fan from Warrington
#155
Posted 19 July 2010 - 07:14 PM
QUOTE (1976PMJwires @ Jul 19 2010, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I always enjoy your input. A sensible Wigan fan from Warrington 
I told you...I ain't Wendall
I'm afraid Warrington by birth alone - naturalised as a Wiganer via 26 years residency (I'm more Yorky

oderint dum metuant
#156
Posted 19 July 2010 - 07:17 PM
QUOTE (giwildgo @ Jul 19 2010, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I told you...I ain't Wendall
I'm afraid Warrington by birth alone - naturalised as a Wiganer via 26 years residency (I'm more Yorky
than Wire having lived 3 years in Sheffield).
I'm afraid Warrington by birth alone - naturalised as a Wiganer via 26 years residency (I'm more Yorky
Pie's and Pudding's
Hope all goes well when the newbie decides to come into the world.
#157
Posted 19 July 2010 - 07:26 PM
If you are still thinking of names, may I suggest you avoid Wendall and Sam, whether you have a girl or a boy?
#158
Posted 19 July 2010 - 07:32 PM
QUOTE (Exiled Wiganer @ Jul 19 2010, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you are still thinking of names, may I suggest you avoid Wendall and Sam, whether you have a girl or a boy?
#159
Posted 19 July 2010 - 07:39 PM
I've waded through eight pages and am still not sure what all the disagreement is about.
Wigan and Warrington occupy the top two places, Friday's game attracted the highest attendance of the season and the match itself, though not perhaps reaching the quality of the first meeting earlier in the season, was intense and exciting enough to live in the memory for some time and would certainly have impressed any casual viewers catching the game on Sky or on 3D.
Am I missing several points?
And yes, a Warrington fan should be used to that after all these years...
Wigan and Warrington occupy the top two places, Friday's game attracted the highest attendance of the season and the match itself, though not perhaps reaching the quality of the first meeting earlier in the season, was intense and exciting enough to live in the memory for some time and would certainly have impressed any casual viewers catching the game on Sky or on 3D.
Am I missing several points?
And yes, a Warrington fan should be used to that after all these years...
#160
Posted 19 July 2010 - 08:05 PM
Changing the by now over argued tempo slightly and going with the question that is supposedly a binding one for all English R/L fans; the four Nations comp at the end of the season.
Did anyone take notice when Hemmings put a pointed question to Micheal Maguire and asked him if the excellent match ( which it was) just seen was as intense as those he had been involved in as assisstant coach at Melbourne, played in the NRL.
McGuire simply replied " yeah it was a great match but : there were a LOT of stoppages"!
Personally I thought that ref Siverwood was the most prominent person on the field and, once again the over bearingness of the officials detracted from a game that was enthralling but could with less pedanticism have been much better.
Watching the NRL is an eye opener and the manner in which the officials ( generally) allow their games to continue is definitely a method that ours should be coming to terms with. Our game is slower for this reason and this reason only and until that aspect gets rectified our rep sides just will not compete for the full 80 minutes with those from down-under.
Did anyone take notice when Hemmings put a pointed question to Micheal Maguire and asked him if the excellent match ( which it was) just seen was as intense as those he had been involved in as assisstant coach at Melbourne, played in the NRL.
McGuire simply replied " yeah it was a great match but : there were a LOT of stoppages"!
Personally I thought that ref Siverwood was the most prominent person on the field and, once again the over bearingness of the officials detracted from a game that was enthralling but could with less pedanticism have been much better.
Watching the NRL is an eye opener and the manner in which the officials ( generally) allow their games to continue is definitely a method that ours should be coming to terms with. Our game is slower for this reason and this reason only and until that aspect gets rectified our rep sides just will not compete for the full 80 minutes with those from down-under.
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