they want to try relegation (twice) ang losing all the better playing assests you have.
rebuilding, yet still only being a yoyo club, until franchising.
you'd think someone had died looking at the bradford posts
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Posté 19 juillet 2010 - 04:44
QUOTE (snapski @ Jul 19 2010, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
they want to try relegation (twice) ang losing all the better playing assests you have.
rebuilding, yet still only being a yoyo club, until franchising.
rebuilding, yet still only being a yoyo club, until franchising.
I think that's what they are trying
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Posté 19 juillet 2010 - 05:55
It's all doom and gloom at present for Bradford, but they have had many many happy seasons.
My club have always promised and never delivered, in my life time they have won a few cups, but i am proud of them.
Bradfords fall from grace is gaining momentum, they need to react now before they really do become a lesser club.
But remember bulls you have tasted success so have happy memories, most clubs would give their right arm for 1 SL trophy, never mind a trophy cabinet of all sorts.
My club have always promised and never delivered, in my life time they have won a few cups, but i am proud of them.
Bradfords fall from grace is gaining momentum, they need to react now before they really do become a lesser club.
But remember bulls you have tasted success so have happy memories, most clubs would give their right arm for 1 SL trophy, never mind a trophy cabinet of all sorts.
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Posté 19 juillet 2010 - 07:07
The issue is, if the Bulls keep going as they are they will die. They are not getting enough people through the turnstiles, and with the expense of the ground, that ain't good. On top of that, if the Bulls were to fail in a franchise bid, they would, I can almost guarantee, go out of business. No body has died, but the club is, at the moment, in a very real, terminal decline. As you can imagine, people are a little worried about this.
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Posté 19 juillet 2010 - 07:20
You can't denude a team of all its best players - Fielden, Peacock, Lowes, Pryce, Vainokolo, Deacon, plus its best coach - Noble and expect the same perfomances. If anyone is to blame for Bradford's current plight it's Caisley - who's now long gone.
The Bulls have been in a decline since his departure. They are in a losing streak and to revive an argument from another thread, they don't look like top 8 contenders, so from the players' and fans' points of view what's the point?
Their season is effectively over. They should still be capable of beating the likes of Salford but it looks like they can't be bothered.
Was it only 2005 when they beat Leeds in the GF? With Lowes playing his last game, Pryce MOM. Peacock went to Leeds because Caisley told him he could F-off when he asked for more money. Noble and Fielden were allowed to go to Wigan without much of a fight. When you think of them in the early noughties, and look at them today - it's a case of how are the mighty fallen?
The Bulls have been in a decline since his departure. They are in a losing streak and to revive an argument from another thread, they don't look like top 8 contenders, so from the players' and fans' points of view what's the point?
Their season is effectively over. They should still be capable of beating the likes of Salford but it looks like they can't be bothered.
Was it only 2005 when they beat Leeds in the GF? With Lowes playing his last game, Pryce MOM. Peacock went to Leeds because Caisley told him he could F-off when he asked for more money. Noble and Fielden were allowed to go to Wigan without much of a fight. When you think of them in the early noughties, and look at them today - it's a case of how are the mighty fallen?
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Posté 19 juillet 2010 - 07:26
One thread "hahaha Bradford lose, excellent". Next thread "stop whining Bulls fans"... 
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Posté 19 juillet 2010 - 07:27
Bradford probably need a little bit of a decline in order that the club as a whole gets a reality check.
A club is only as strong as its strength under adversity, when the silverware is coming in and with it supporters clubs get a false sense of security.
The potential at Bradford is there, the challenge for the club now is to attract supporters back without doing it on the back of trophies.
Both Warrington and Wigan have shown how a club can be resiliant and grow without silverware and in Yorkshire Huddersfield continue steady progress again without any pots to wave at the crowd.
A bit of a backroom clearout is probably needed to get people in with new ideas and with a different philosophy regarding what is success.
Settle for lean times and concentrate on a slow rebuild. Don't chase the fans you have recently lost they are not your future, connect with the young new fans, the recently lost willl drift back in time as things pick up.
In the words of the immortal Douglas Adams "Don't Panic"
A club is only as strong as its strength under adversity, when the silverware is coming in and with it supporters clubs get a false sense of security.
The potential at Bradford is there, the challenge for the club now is to attract supporters back without doing it on the back of trophies.
Both Warrington and Wigan have shown how a club can be resiliant and grow without silverware and in Yorkshire Huddersfield continue steady progress again without any pots to wave at the crowd.
A bit of a backroom clearout is probably needed to get people in with new ideas and with a different philosophy regarding what is success.
Settle for lean times and concentrate on a slow rebuild. Don't chase the fans you have recently lost they are not your future, connect with the young new fans, the recently lost willl drift back in time as things pick up.
In the words of the immortal Douglas Adams "Don't Panic"
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Posté 19 juillet 2010 - 07:42
"Don't panic"
I thought that was Corporal Jones?
Over to you, Captain Mainwaring!
I thought that was Corporal Jones?
Over to you, Captain Mainwaring!
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Posté 19 juillet 2010 - 07:45
QUOTE (tonyXIII @ Jul 19 2010, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"Don't panic"
I thought that was Corporal Jones?
Over to you, Captain Mainwaring!
I thought that was Corporal Jones?
Over to you, Captain Mainwaring!
I'm sure i have seen Padge's name on the credits
(Dad's army that is)what do you say Dave
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Posté 19 juillet 2010 - 07:49
QUOTE (tonyXIII @ Jul 19 2010, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"Don't panic"
I thought that was Corporal Jones?
Over to you, Captain Mainwaring!
I thought that was Corporal Jones?
Over to you, Captain Mainwaring!
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Posté 19 juillet 2010 - 08:03
QUOTE (Padge @ Jul 19 2010, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I understood mate.
It was also slightly cheaper than the Encyclopedia Galactica.
Of the possessions I made sure I had when I moved to be alone (ish), the hard back 5 volume trilogy was one of them.
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Posté 19 juillet 2010 - 08:11
QUOTE (goldcard @ Jul 19 2010, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I understood mate.
It was also slightly cheaper than the Encyclopedia Galactica.
Of the possessions I made sure I had when I moved to be alone (ish), the hard back 5 volume trilogy was one of them.
It was also slightly cheaper than the Encyclopedia Galactica.
Of the possessions I made sure I had when I moved to be alone (ish), the hard back 5 volume trilogy was one of them.
To right mate, your never alone with a 5 book trilogy of H2G2 books
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Posté 19 juillet 2010 - 09:21
QUOTE (1976PMJwires @ Jul 19 2010, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sure i have seen Padge's name on the credits (Dad's army that is)
what do you say Dave
(Dad's army that is)what do you say Dave
He wasn't Pike was he? (stupid boy
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Posté 19 juillet 2010 - 09:33
QUOTE (Trojan @ Jul 19 2010, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He wasn't Pike was he? (stupid boy )
)If he was Pike l hope he never told them his name
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Posté 19 juillet 2010 - 09:49
QUOTE (hindle xiii @ Jul 19 2010, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Geeks!
Not at all.
Appreciate good writing and exceptional humour, and it's as likely to be true as any other theory ever written.
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Ooooh, the Challenge Cup!!! Thank you Tony.....
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Posté 19 juillet 2010 - 10:26
Yes, showing concern when your club is going down the pan is just like thinking someone has died. 
Anyway, haven't you got a 'hooray cas and batley won' thread to look after?
Anyway, haven't you got a 'hooray cas and batley won' thread to look after?
Then wisdom says: cherish your days, worry only lets your time slip away
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Posté 19 juillet 2010 - 10:57
QUOTE (Padge @ Jul 19 2010, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Both Warrington and Wigan have shown how a club can be resiliant and grow without silverware and in Yorkshire Huddersfield continue steady progress again without any pots to wave at the crowd.
All three clubs have very wealthy owners bankrolling them and allowing them to spend the full cap and invest in marketing and other off-field resources.
Its that that made the difference.
hth
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Posté 19 juillet 2010 - 11:02
QUOTE (Adeybull @ Jul 19 2010, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All three clubs have very wealthy owners bankrolling them and allowing them to spend the full cap and invest in marketing and other off-field resources.
Its that that made the difference.
hth
Its that that made the difference.
hth
Im impressed you have access to all them 3 clubs accounts
What difference has it made, one CC win for Warrington, helluva difference
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He balanced the hot areas with the cold areas. the dry areas with the wet areas.
And, in creating Yorkshire, he created the most glorious place on earth - full of majestic beauty and sporting giants.........and for balance he created....... Lancashire.
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Posté 19 juillet 2010 - 11:09
QUOTE (Trojan @ Jul 19 2010, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You can't denude a team of all its best players - Fielden, Peacock, Lowes, Pryce, Vainokolo, Deacon, plus its best coach - Noble and expect the same perfomances. If anyone is to blame for Bradford's current plight it's Caisley - who's now long gone.
The Bulls have been in a decline since his departure. They are in a losing streak and to revive an argument from another thread, they don't look like top 8 contenders, so from the players' and fans' points of view what's the point?
Their season is effectively over. They should still be capable of beating the likes of Salford but it looks like they can't be bothered.
Was it only 2005 when they beat Leeds in the GF? With Lowes playing his last game, Pryce MOM. Peacock went to Leeds because Caisley told him he could F-off when he asked for more money. Noble and Fielden were allowed to go to Wigan without much of a fight. When you think of them in the early noughties, and look at them today - it's a case of how are the mighty fallen?
The Bulls have been in a decline since his departure. They are in a losing streak and to revive an argument from another thread, they don't look like top 8 contenders, so from the players' and fans' points of view what's the point?
Their season is effectively over. They should still be capable of beating the likes of Salford but it looks like they can't be bothered.
Was it only 2005 when they beat Leeds in the GF? With Lowes playing his last game, Pryce MOM. Peacock went to Leeds because Caisley told him he could F-off when he asked for more money. Noble and Fielden were allowed to go to Wigan without much of a fight. When you think of them in the early noughties, and look at them today - it's a case of how are the mighty fallen?
Lowes' last game was 2003, though.
The Bulls have been in decline since they were forced to stop spending well beyond their means, with no sugar daddy to bankroll the losses. Caisley bailed out and Noble went when the massive overspending on their watch had to be curtailed else the club would have gone under. And with the club facing a £3m+ lawsuit from Leeds and having to sell star players. Nice legacy to leave your successors? You seek their monument? Look around you at Odsal
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