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#1 Rovers007

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 08:47 PM

say no more..ok i will....poor

#2 Lee

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 09:01 PM



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Posted 25 July 2010 - 09:04 PM

it seems alot of there fans have short arms and cnt reach the money in their pockets...

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 10:05 PM

The Gnoll isn't popular for rugby league it seems. I remember another fixture there getting a poor crowd, possibly featuring Wales RL?
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#5 Bulletproof

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 10:23 PM

Maybe they should up sticks and move to Pontefract.

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 10:30 PM

QUOTE (no13benny @ Jul 25 2010, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Gnoll isn't popular for rugby league it seems. I remember another fixture there getting a poor crowd, possibly featuring Wales RL?


The club has the problem of trying to keep it's links with south wales whilst playing in north wales.

It seems to be a PR excersise saying to fans - we still think about you, and saying to juniors - we are still your club for a pro-contract if you make it.

The crowd will provide ammunition for those against expansion as usual.

The key question is can a North wales SL outfit inspire a south wales junior RL without such fixtures being played away from Wrexham.....


#7 Bedford Roughyed

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 10:30 PM

From some reports it might be a good thing that not many people were there to witness events off the field...

Reports suggest - Fans singing YMCA, fighting with stewards, allegations of racist chanting, etc sad.gif sad.gif

Hopefully it was minor things blown up out of proportion...
With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 10:38 PM

Reports from where?!
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Posted 25 July 2010 - 10:39 PM

QUOTE (Bedford Roughyed @ Jul 25 2010, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
From some reports it might be a good thing that not many people were there to witness events off the field...

Reports suggest - Fans singing YMCA, fighting with stewards, allegations of racist chanting, etc sad.gif sad.gif

Hopefully it was minor things blown up out of proportion...

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#10 Bedford Roughyed

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 10:59 PM

QUOTE (no13benny @ Jul 25 2010, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Reports from where?!

T'was on t'other forum of the RL fans.
With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 07:14 AM

According to a poster on another forum the game was very poorly advertised. the Crusaders are not alone in needing to promote the game better and make the sporting public of that town/city fully aware of when they are playing home games with kick off times etc.

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 07:35 AM

i think a couple of games a year in south wales are needed, but should the magic weekend return to cardiff (as i hope it will!) that could go some ways to helping, crusaders should then look at playing a game against one of the big four at a good south wales venue, and promote the hell out of it, maybe even in conjunction with the magic weekend ie get a magic ticket, half price on the next game in south wales.

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 08:33 AM

when are folk going to wake up RL will never expand outside Yorkshire Lancashire and Cumbria folk in South Wales North Wales support RU always have always will out of 1495 how many were Cas fans
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 08:40 AM

QUOTE (NEIL FOX IS GOD @ Jul 26 2010, 09:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
when are folk going to wake up RL will never expand outside Yorkshire Lancashire and Cumbria folk in South Wales North Wales support RU always have always will out of 1495 how many were Cas fans

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 08:45 AM

QUOTE (NEIL FOX IS GOD @ Jul 26 2010, 09:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
when are folk going to wake up RL will never expand outside Yorkshire Lancashire and Cumbria folk in South Wales North Wales support RU always have always will out of 1495 how many were Cas fans

If this game were played in Wrexham you'd have a point, but it wasn't. The game was the equivalent to MK Dons playing an on the road game in London, the Crusaders are hated in South Wales.

Parksider has raised an interesting dilemma though as while economic sense would dictate scrapping on the road games, they do need to advertise themselves in South Wales to potential players that they're still a Welsh club.

Longer term I could see the possibility of Welsh players playing for the Scorpions and Crusaders being northerners playing in a market that wants to watch RL. The only problem with this is I don't see South Wales ever getting the crowds to support a SL club, though it's not impossible. If Quins moved to say Oxford then that would be much closer than Wrexham for South Wales players (even Twickenham is closer)

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 08:50 AM

QUOTE (bowes @ Jul 26 2010, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the Crusaders are hated in South Wales.


I certainly know a few RL fans down there - including a couple about five mins from Neath - and none went to yesterday's game.

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Posted 26 July 2010 - 08:50 AM

As JD would say it was a 'poooeer' crowd! rolleyes.gif



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Posted 26 July 2010 - 09:22 AM

The attendance at the Knoll vindicates the clubs decision to move to North Wales. No objection to Crusaders playing on the road games as they represent the whole of Wales, rather than Wrexham or the North Wales region. I can only hope that the club do a better job of promoting the Quins game at the Knoll. The club also suffer from the institutionalised media bias against RL, therefore most people dont even know that Wales has 2 professional RL teams, let alone details of their matches. I dont know if this is a hangover from the days when RL stole Welsh rugby players and took them up north. None of the Crusaders or Scorpions games get any radio coverage on BBC Radio Wales and the only decent newspaper coverage is in the Daily Post. TV news coverage is pathetic, despite the fantastic win against Cas the only mention that the game will get on BBC or ITV Wales during the sports bulletin will be and finally in rugby league, Crusaders beat Castleford Tigers 30-24. RL would get similar media exposure in Wales if Crusaders won the World Club Challenge and Wales won the World Cup.


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Posted 26 July 2010 - 09:51 AM

QUOTE (BringbackGB @ Jul 26 2010, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The attendance at the Knoll vindicates the clubs decision to move to North Wales. No objection to Crusaders playing on the road games as they represent the whole of Wales, rather than Wrexham or the North Wales region. I can only hope that the club do a better job of promoting the Quins game at the Knoll. The club also suffer from the institutionalised media bias against RL, therefore most people dont even know that Wales has 2 professional RL teams, let alone details of their matches. I dont know if this is a hangover from the days when RL stole Welsh rugby players and took them up north. None of the Crusaders or Scorpions games get any radio coverage on BBC Radio Wales and the only decent newspaper coverage is in the Daily Post. TV news coverage is pathetic, despite the fantastic win against Cas the only mention that the game will get on BBC or ITV Wales during the sports bulletin will be and finally in rugby league, Crusaders beat Castleford Tigers 30-24. RL would get similar media exposure in Wales if Crusaders won the World Club Challenge and Wales won the World Cup.


Gotta agree with all of that, especially the part I took the liberty to put in bold print.

I am sorry to say that regrettably I forecast that yet again this Welsh experiment would come to nothing. I have witnessed this happen so often that it is sickening to watch it all unfold and inevitably with the same old outcome eventually yet again.

Welsh= RU! RL: not wanted!!
The main reason behind that opinion is that RL is viewed as an ENGLISH version of the game of rugby and for that one aspect alone is regarded as alien.

I would love to be proven wrong but I fear that Wrexham will go the way that the other Welsh forays have and oblivion will once more occur, as sure as eggs is eggs!


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Posted 26 July 2010 - 10:10 AM

QUOTE (NEIL FOX IS GOD @ Jul 26 2010, 09:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
when are folk going to wake up RL will never expand outside Yorkshire Lancashire and Cumbria folk in South Wales North Wales support RU always have always will out of 1495 how many were Cas fans

Do they not have full stops and commas in the north? Poor attendance, oh well. I had a good time mainly I did this bizaare thing. I watched the rugby.

I was in the main stand with most of the cas fans in the union end. Didn't hear any dodgy chanting although the coppers were called at some point. Seemed pretty minor to me. Respect to the cas fans who made a long journey. Thanks for the two points.
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