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[thirteenthman]

hmm yeah okay but most of these people in hillbilly places like Earlestown, Golbourne and Yickerland are loyalists and have family links to a certain team/town. Your right there is mixed support but I was thinking of places where RL has not much profile, these places you mention are RL mad and no other sports are popular there.

Places like Lymm which are RU dominated are the areas that Wire should branch into.

He's right you know. I'm just off out to Earlestown now to visit Jed and Granny, and have some grits out by the cement pond.

[dallymessenger]

20k seater, massive profits and winning everything in sight.......

well if people are going to try to brag about the club, yeah.

if this thread was along the lines of well done warrington for improving, my responses would be different

im sure if the HJ was built bigger crowds would be bigger.

[dallymessenger]

thing is walt he/she is right about footbal in this country and how it attracts its fans etc.. you may not understand it but it doesnt make it wrong

im sure the vast majority of a soccer clubs fans come within that clubs named area.

i think its an urban myth that most soccer fans dont come from where the team is.

[Dave T]

well if people are going to try to brag about the club, yeah.

if this thread was along the lines of well done warrington for improving, my responses would be different

im sure if the HJ was built bigger crowds would be bigger.

Seriously, who the f are you? Cock of the North? This isn't all about impressing you, sorry to disappoint, you absolute clueless freak.

[Dave T]

im sure the vast majority of a soccer clubs fans come within that clubs named area.

i think its an urban myth that most soccer fans dont come from where the team is.

duplicate post - sorry

Edited by Dave T, 30 July 2010 - 12:25 AM.

[Dave T]

im sure the vast majority of a soccer clubs fans come within that clubs named area.

i think its an urban myth that most soccer fans dont come from where the team is.

Clueless. Seriously, clueless.

Any credibility that you thought you had has just been lost.

[sam]

i think its an urban myth that most soccer fans dont come from where the team is.

there never has been an urban myth. it's just liverpool and utd fans winding each other up. try again with something you know about.

[dallymessenger]

there never has been an urban myth. it's just liverpool and utd fans winding each other up. try again with something you know about.

so if its a wind up then im right.

[dallymessenger]

Clueless. Seriously, clueless.

Any credibility that you thought you had has just been lost.

take a hint buddy, when someone doesnt repy to you after 10 times it means hes trying to ignore you

[dallymessenger]

anyone that argues that having a PL soccer team from your own town is even remotely as challenging as competing with one 20 - 40 miles away is an idiot.

following on from this dumb logic, wigan not only have to compete with a strongish PL team in wigan, but also the same soccer clubs that people raise as so called competitors to warrington

warrington have a town all to themselves, a rarity in england

st helens are in a similar situation and will build a ground at 18,000

heck hull has two grounds with total capacity of 34,000

14,000 is just way way too small.

and i say the same thing about cas / wakeys proposed new grounds

Edited by dallymessenger, 30 July 2010 - 05:35 AM.

[Lee]

anyone that argues that having a PL soccer team from your own town is even remotely as challenging as competing with one 20 - 40 miles away is an idiot.

following on from this dumb logic, wigan not only have to compete with a strongish PL team in wigan, but also the same soccer clubs that people raise as so called competitors to warrington

Give it up Walt, you cant comprehend how big football is here and how far fans will go to follow there team, come up the M6 bout 1pm for a Man U home game, its heaving

[sam]

so if its a wind up then im right.

nope.

[Amber Avenger]

anyone that argues that having a PL soccer team from your own town is even remotely as challenging as competing with one 20 - 40 miles away is an idiot.

following on from this dumb logic, wigan not only have to compete with a strongish PL team in wigan, but also the same soccer clubs that people raise as so called competitors to warrington

warrington have a town all to themselves, a rarity in england

st helens are in a similar situation and will build a ground at 18,000

heck hull has two grounds with total capacity of 34,000

14,000 is just way way too small.

and i say the same thing about cas / wakeys proposed new grounds

I'd like to hear your thoughts on Salford and their proximity to Manchester United and Manchester City.

[Dave T]

take a hint buddy, when someone doesnt repy to you after 10 times it means hes trying to ignore you

Thanks for your reply.

[Dave T]

anyone that argues that having a PL soccer team from your own town is even remotely as challenging as competing with one 20 - 40 miles away is an idiot.

following on from this dumb logic, wigan not only have to compete with a strongish PL team in wigan, but also the same soccer clubs that people raise as so called competitors to warrington

Nobody said that. Read back my post and I actually said it is a challenge for all NW clubs.

Also, nobody but you made it a Wire v Wigan, or Wire v NRL or Wire v anyone else thread. This was about Wire vs themselves in the past, and things are clearly moving in the right direction.

[dallymessenger]

Give it up Walt, you cant comprehend how big football is here and how far fans will go to follow there team, come up the M6 bout 1pm for a Man U home game, its heaving

wigan and st helens prove you wrong

esp. saints.

as the only sport in town they are building an 18,000 capacity stadium.

and im sure st helens has as many soccer fans as warrington does

the HJ is just too small.

[thirteenthman]

Gung Ho! Spot on book....

Link :- http://positiveshari...review-gung-ho/

quick review.

Mmm... Alexander Kjerulf AKA The Chief Happiness Officer. Interesting read, but I'd love to hear his thoughts on p + r and the next round of licensing.

I honestly thought it would be a book about Steve Menzies. He is a squirrel, doing lots of hard work for Bradford. His nickname is of course Beaver. And his former coach Steve McNamara is an absolute goose.

Obviously not though.

[dallymessenger]

Nobody said that. Read back my post and I actually said it is a challenge for all NW clubs.

Also, nobody but you made it a Wire v Wigan, or Wire v NRL or Wire v anyone else thread. This was about Wire vs themselves in the past, and things are clearly moving in the right direction.

when the HJ was finished crowds went to 11,000 or so.

fell back on poor on field form and are now back at that level.

sure the on field form has improved a lot but off the park once the club moved into the new ground, after the initial growth period its been flat.

id have hoped by now the ground wouldve been expanded.

i stand by my comments that 13,000 is too small.

it needs to be 18,000 minimum, or even better over 20,000

[Dave T]

when the HJ was finished crowds went to 11,000 or so.

fell back on poor on field form and are now back at that level.

sure the on field form has improved a lot but off the park once the club moved into the new ground, after the initial growth period its been flat.

id have hoped by now the ground wouldve been expanded.

i stand by my comments that 13,000 is too small.

it needs to be 18,000 minimum, or even better over 20,000

It would be brilliant if the demand meant that we needed a 20k stadium, but the reality is that at the moment we just don't need it.

I don't know if you have been to the HJ Stadium, but it is very basic in design, and has plenty of potential for expansion, although this wouldn't be cheap.

Look back at my post about the crowds we have achieved, we have had very few sellouts, and they have only ever been against the same two teams (with a couple of notable exceptions). In the past we have had a couple of crowds as low as 7k, which just isn't good in a 20k stadium, and why would you pay millions to extend when crowds like this are turning up.

This year our lowest crowd is 9,200 (IIRC) and next year I would like to see none below 10k, and progress in that way. There is more money to be made in getting an extra 2 or 3k to the lesser games than there is in getting an extra 500 to the big games. This needs to be the starting point. Expansion of the stadium has been discussed by the club quite often, but the figures need to stack up, and surely they don't at the moment.

I'd love to be agreeing with you on this one, as it would mean our crowds were higher, but let's not forget, a relatively short time ago, we were getting 3-5k for some games and the increase has already improved out of sight.

On the football point, things are changing in the town. A few years back you would only ever see kids out playing in football shirts, and Wire tops were in the minority. Nowadays there is more of a buzz around the team, with loads of Wire shirts being seen on non-matchdays, and this bodes well for the future, but this doesn't equate to spending millions on extending a stadium, adding seats that would be empty 95% of the time.

[dallymessenger]

warrington have imo 5 good years in front of them on the park

i predicted at the start of the year a wire / wigan SL GF.

there just isnt any room to fit in any new fans when Wire make the GF, and down the track win it.

i believe in the build it and they will come thing too.

if the ground was bigger the crowds would be bigger.

but ignoring that, if you win the SL GF you will have missed the boat in extra crowds because the ground hasnt been upgraded

i feel clubs have 5 years at the top before the SC begins to allow others to rise to the top

its up to the club to get as many fans on board during the good years to build a long term sustainable club

and filling in the corners wouldnt be that expensive

your last paragraph is good to hear though