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Warrington Wolves v St. Helens


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Poll: Warrington Wolves v St. Helens (24 member(s) have cast votes)

Who will win?

  1. Warrington (7 votes [29.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.17%

  2. St Helens (13 votes [54.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 54.17%

  3. Draw (4 votes [16.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

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#1 ckn

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:33 AM

Discuss the game here!

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#2 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:35 AM

Glamour boys to choke, saints all the way biggrin.gif
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#3 Dave T

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:41 AM

Not confident, but we've seen far worse teams than the current Wire one push Saints close, so its gotta happen sometime.

Problem is that this is a crucial game for 2nd, and I think Saints will be more than up for it and take the 2pts.

#4 Exiled Wiganer

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 12:09 PM

Leaving aside history, I cannot see beyond Wire for this. They are simply better equipped up front than Saints, and Saints have been relying on their younger players too much and for too long. Plus, I am gueesing that the semi will loom larger on Saints' minds (given that they like the cash and have a tougher game next week), which must be a factor here, as at Headingley.
Against that, though, we have the Saints' hoodoo over the Wire. I don't believe that teams bottle it. Any player that runs out to face Graham/Morley has more courage than sense. Wire's results are so anomolous statistically that, rather than say "it must end sometime" it bears closer analysis. I have no answers but I wonder whether it could be something to do with Briars under-performing, as he is pretty much the only player on Wire's side involved in the games. Particularly when Long was around, maybe Briars was conscious of having been shown the door by Saints. All groups look to their leaders, and if Briars is cowed, maybe that communicates itself to teh rest of the team? Not much of a theory but you have to start somewhere.

#5 Dave T

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 12:31 PM

QUOTE (Exiled Wiganer @ Jul 28 2010, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Leaving aside history, I cannot see beyond Wire for this. They are simply better equipped up front than Saints, and Saints have been relying on their younger players too much and for too long. Plus, I am gueesing that the semi will loom larger on Saints' minds (given that they like the cash and have a tougher game next week), which must be a factor here, as at Headingley.
Against that, though, we have the Saints' hoodoo over the Wire. I don't believe that teams bottle it. Any player that runs out to face Graham/Morley has more courage than sense. Wire's results are so anomolous statistically that, rather than say "it must end sometime" it bears closer analysis. I have no answers but I wonder whether it could be something to do with Briars under-performing, as he is pretty much the only player on Wire's side involved in the games. Particularly when Long was around, maybe Briars was conscious of having been shown the door by Saints. All groups look to their leaders, and if Briars is cowed, maybe that communicates itself to teh rest of the team? Not much of a theory but you have to start somewhere.
On your first, line, ###### off! People always tip us in the week leading up to it, I'm taking sam's approach and I plead with you all to too!

On your second paragraph, tbf to Briers, it is always a big game for him personally, and he has very often been our best player, and has often outplayed Long (apart from the inevitable last second drop goal!).

God knows what it is, tbh I just think that it is a bit of a freak thing, as quite often we have been the better team for much of the game (as much as the losing team can be the better team) but have just been soft when it comes to the crucial moments. Saints have very very rarely failed to turn up and play in these games, but similarly, we have always seemed content to just stick with them, and be happy if we were close at half time, even when we were by far the better team.

We need to be ruthless, and we have shown some signs of that this year, but as I say, I'm going with the pessimistic outlook!


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Posted 28 July 2010 - 12:56 PM

Hopefully a win to the Wire and Saints get tired out

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#7 hindle xiii

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 04:45 PM

Warrington, simply because I want Saints to win to keep it tight at the top. I always get it wrong. Congratulations Wire!

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#8 Castigers13

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 05:27 PM

Saints to have any easy win.

#9 goldcard

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 08:50 PM

Since the 90's, we've developed a nasty habit of losing to Saints, it's almost a feckin tradition now.
Some seasons totally outclaseed, eg 80-0, 70-6, far too often being better for 70 mins, but never, ever getting to a safe margin and falling at the death.
It's a mental block, now, and a very big monkey to shake off.
With cup semis the following week, both teams could have other issues on their mind.
I can't see us being better placed going into this stage in the season again next year, and I suspect Wembley could be more important to Saints this season than to us, though I'm not saying we should throw the semi.
However, I think if we're ever going to shake that monkey off our backs, this is as good a chance as last time we beat them.
I'm not confident we will, though, it's them Saints, it's a mental/traditional thing now, logic isn't in it, I think another last 5 mins of heartbreak could be in the offing.
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#10 1976PMJwires

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 08:51 PM

1 win out of 42 SL games
Last Wire win 2001

2 Semi final games for Wires, big big test of their mental and inner strength.

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#11 saintsbird

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 09:03 PM

Gutted I cant go but at least can record it. More confident now KC & flanno back. Lets see if the monkey is still clinging. Would love to nick 2nd.

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#12 Tommy The C5t

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 09:05 PM

St Helens by 18 points.

Warrington are leaking too many at the back of late.

#13 saintsbird

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 09:08 PM

QUOTE (Tommy The C5t @ Jul 28 2010, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
St Helens by 18 points.

Warrington are leaking too many at the back of late.


oh ###### off.....thats just jinxed it for us wink.gif
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#14 hindle xiii

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 09:21 PM

QUOTE (saintsbird @ Jul 28 2010, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
oh ###### off.....thats just jinxed it for us wink.gif

At least I hadn't jinxed it then. Yippee!

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#15 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 09:24 PM

QUOTE (hindle xiii @ Jul 28 2010, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
At least I hadn't jinxed it then. Yippee!

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#16 hindle xiii

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 09:32 PM

QUOTE (terrywebbisgod @ Jul 28 2010, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Go on, you know you want to biggrin.gif

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#17 saintsbird

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 07:12 AM

QUOTE (hindle xiii @ Jul 28 2010, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've previously pinned my colours to the mast, only it seems I did it without any impression. Hmmph. dry.gif

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biggrin.gif your not usually as big a jinx as Mick so dont have the same impact

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#18 foozler

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 09:11 AM

QUOTE (Tommy The C5t @ Jul 28 2010, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
St Helens by 18 points.

Warrington are leaking too many at the back of late.


So are Saints - exhibit A - 34 points conceded in home game v Salford.

A big week for both teams with tough CC semi action the following weekend. Saints to shade it on Saturday with no more injuries please.

#19 Wilderspoolmemories

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 09:26 PM

Warrington 80,St.Helens............................0.

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 10:38 PM

I think this is Wire's for the taking. Saints are not going to push it with Leeds next week in the cup.

Saying that this is the bogey team, I just cant imagine walking out of the HJ with that winning feeling.

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