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#41 deluded pom?

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 11:57 AM

QUOTE (thirteenthman @ Aug 8 2010, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I believe. I think I saw it once on a documentary about life in Yorkshire. It was called Last of the Summer Wine, or something like that... wink.gif



I saw something in a documentary about a henpecked husband in Lancashire. Jack something they called him. It was called Coronation Street or something like that. wink.gif

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#42 thirteenthman

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 12:20 PM

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I saw something in a documentary about a henpecked husband in Lancashire. Jack something they called him. It was called Coronation Street or something like that. wink.gif

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I take it you haven't seen any shows about Cheshire then?






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Posted 08 August 2010 - 01:43 PM

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I take it you haven't seen any shows about Cheshire then?



North of the Mersey is Lancashire. wink.gif

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#44 thirteenthman

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 06:31 PM

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North of the Mersey is Lancashire. wink.gif

I assume you haven't read through all the posts then? rolleyes.gif

And anyway, North Of the Manchester Ship Canal is Lancashire.

(btw What's the weather like in Humberside today?)


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#45 deluded pom?

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 05:32 AM

QUOTE (thirteenthman @ Aug 8 2010, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I assume you haven't read through all the posts then? rolleyes.gif

And anyway, North Of the Manchester Ship Canal is Lancashire.

(btw What's the weather like in Humberside today?)



I was close. One Lancy river looks much like another wink.gif Weather's been fine here mate. Thanks for asking wink.gif

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#46 RP London

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 08:05 AM

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I'm an English republican and I don't sing that ####.

It should not be the anthem for GB&I anyway

well said..

he isnt an irish republican as such, he is just simply Irish and playing for Great Britain and Ireland.. he isnt taking the Queens shilling he was playing for the representative team of Great Britain and Ireland the fact the athem is wrong and insulting to anyone from ireland (ignoring the other arguments as you post above, which i would tend to agree with) is more the point than his quite obvious and understandable refusal to sing it.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 08:12 AM

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I totally disagree with Carney's view about licensing on Wed. He siad that they should forget about defo promoting one club and just make sure the best 14 teams are there

This is a totally flawed argument because the teams in the Co-Op championship don't get the opportunity to get big crowds week in week out for at least 3-years, so cannot be equally compared to SL clubs. Also do we really want to restrict the number of towns to 14 who can ever have aspirations?

Also someone needs to explain the "chicken and egg" situation to everyone on sky and at the RFL.

People will not watch RL in numbers much great than 1-2k if there is no definite route to promotion on-the-pitch

Also investors will not come in unless there is a guaranteed route. What happens if two clubs were meeting the criteria at the moment? In reality the RFL shoudl put both up BUT they will not. Therefore this puts off fans and investors

The RFL has just layed out some criteria, so why not modify it to say that the highest placed club who wins the most things AND meets the other criteria then defo goes up


I think the whole point of what Carney was saying has been completely missed..

He said the RFL made a mistake in guarenteeing a place to the club in the championship... i agree personally... His point being that thy made abit of a rod for their own back and that IF there werent better clubs applying then they could be getting rid of a strong club for a weaker club.. his point is a bit out dated as there will be a better club applying than in the league but IMO it is a fair point, there should be no guarentees and that inclkudes for super league clubs.. which IMO is the point he was making..

he was saying that all clubs from the Super League should apply as should AS MANY AS POSSIBLE from below that, anyone who is interested basically. And the top 14 (in this case) should be in no matter where they are playing at the moment.

so his point is that the best teams should be int he super league, i dont see anything wrong with that.

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Also do we really want to restrict the number of towns to 14 who can ever have aspirations?


whos doing this exactly?

You limit the numbers due to the money coming in, this time around it was announced that it would be 14 becuase the money was there for 14 but no monre. Next time around if the money is more they may well up it to 15 or 16 there is no definate "it will be 14 for ever more" it is taken round by round.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 08:22 AM

QUOTE (RP London @ Aug 9 2010, 09:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You limit the numbers due to the money coming in, this time around it was announced that it would be 14 becuase the money was there for 14 but no monre. Next time around if the money is more they may well up it to 15 or 16 there is no definate "it will be 14 for ever more" it is taken round by round.


wacko.gif How many clubs you have included depends not on the money but how you share it. You can go for a 10 club ultrasuper league, or a 20 club all inclusive league.

The number is down to a decision, not the money.....


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Posted 09 August 2010 - 08:37 AM

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Barrow and Featherstone were once in the top division, so they've had their chance and blown it. Or do we ignore anything pre-1996?

1996. The top 12 teams in the old division would be going to creating a new super league. Fev finished 12th that season but were dropped to make way for a team from Paris. That worked out well then laugh.gif Promotion and relegation should be brought back, its about the team,the way they've played all season,not about the shiny new stadium that a team has! One question that should be asked is, would we as rugby fans rather be comfortable in a new stadium and watch the same teams winning all the time, with the stronger teams getting stronger and the weaker teams getting weaker or watch good rugby with two teams playing with pride and passion because they deserve to be in that league not because they have a better capacity that someone else.
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#50 RP London

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 08:43 AM

QUOTE (The Parksider @ Aug 9 2010, 08:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wacko.gif How many clubs you have included depends not on the money but how you share it. You can go for a 10 club ultrasuper league, or a 20 club all inclusive league.

The number is down to a decision, not the money.....

mumps/measels... same argument really, either more money or re splitting the money but its still down to that rather than someone saying "we will never have more than 14"

#51 thirteenthman

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 09:14 AM

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1996. The top 12 teams in the old division would be going to creating a new super league. Fev finished 12th that season but were dropped to make way for a team from Paris. That worked out well then laugh.gif Promotion and relegation should be brought back, its about the team,the way they've played all season,not about the shiny new stadium that a team has! One question that should be asked is, would we as rugby fans rather be comfortable in a new stadium and watch the same teams winning all the time, with the stronger teams getting stronger and the weaker teams getting weaker or watch good rugby with two teams playing with pride and passion because they deserve to be in that league not because they have a better capacity that someone else.

When SL was set up, the RFL decided to promote London and bring in a new team from France. SL would have 12 teams for the first season, so the top 10 teams plus London and Paris were admitted. Nobody ever said it was a simple case of admitting the top 12 teams. Like so much to do with RL, nothing is ever that simple.

On your other point, you're right. Admission to SL shouldn't be just about having a new stadium. But that's mainly because it isn't. It's simply that people choose to view it as a sort of stadium beauty contest.

You mention about the same teams winning all the time, but since SL came in only 4 teams have ever won it. Of the teams promoted to SL, only Hull FC have made the GF, while Huddersfield have made the CC final. And oddly enough, both of those teams do have new stadiums.