New Ground Next Season
Posted 13 August 2010 - 05:41 PM
Posted 13 August 2010 - 07:00 PM
Okay but its only short term! what happens when The Willows is demollished for key sector housing???? Its Agecroft or bust for Swinton Lions in my opinion.
Posted 13 August 2010 - 07:48 PM
Posted 13 August 2010 - 08:17 PM
Posted 15 August 2010 - 09:47 PM
lots of interesting opinion on our alleged move to the Willows on the Salford fans forum on www.rlfans,com once again we are the butt of numerous sniping.
Edited by duffymoon, 15 August 2010 - 10:31 PM.
Posted 16 August 2010 - 09:08 AM
In my opinion Barton is not only an unviable and unsatisfactory solution for the Lions, but not best use of council tax payers money. The site was originally chosen due to the scope for cross-subsidising development alongside the stadium, thereby underpinning an essentially private ownership model (notwithstanding part contributions from grants).
Provided a private ownership model is used, these things are a matter of commercial and strategic choice for whichever private entity wishes to pursue the project. And the formal line at the moment is that the monies from the council are being launched into as a loan. But, once the funding model is changed to be reliant on the tax payer, the entire basis of the project strategy ought to have been thoroughly challenged and reviewed. For instance, Barton is not a location that is easily accessible for those residents of the City that ought to be targetted for greater involvement in physical activity and education. And rightfully part of the agenda ought to be finding the Lions a viable new home in such a location as to enable fringe benefits to be brought to the M27 area and future genereations of residents therein.
Sadly, neither the governors of Swinton Lions nor the Labour briefed Councillors for Swinton and Pendlebury seem capable of exerting any positive influence on these matters, for a variety of reasons ranging from self-interest to incompetence.
Posted 16 August 2010 - 03:17 PM
Posted 16 August 2010 - 06:56 PM
Scenario A: Stadium to be built with private money
- A ground for Salford City Reds that meets stated Super League criteria
- A ground of a scale and location that allows Salford City Reds to become a regional brand, a goal stated by David Tarry
- Needs a site big enough to host stadium + other development to help raise the capital cost of the ground and contribute towards £1.8m per year salary cap.
- Project risk taken by Red City Developments.
Build the stadium and supporting cross subsidising development at Barton. If it doesn't work, Red City Developments and Salford City Reds have backed a wrong 'un - on their heads be it.
Scenario B: Stadium to be built with public monies
- Delivery on the stated agenda of the Council and relevant grant awarding bodies.
Build the stadium with appropriate facilities and in a location where it can
- Get more people into sport, with good access to the majority of council tax payers, particularly the underpriviledged areas of the City that feature chronically bad health statistics
- Get stronger links between education providers and professional sport, this should again be focussed on the areas of greatest need.
- If two seperate grounds are not viable, provide a fitting home not only for Salford City Reds, but also Swinton Lions.
i.e. For a private model, Barton is fine - Red City Development's call - Red City Development's risk. That was the original scheme. Now that Red City Developments has gone, the entire basis of the project ought to have been looked at again, against totally different criteria. Unfortunately this has not happened and Council Tax payers face a £20m+ bill to put a smile on the face of Mssrs Wilkinson and Merry but without getting much else back in return. Good money after bad.
I can't spell it out any more than that for you Mark.
Edited by PhillH, 16 August 2010 - 07:13 PM.
Posted 17 August 2010 - 01:17 PM
Posted 08 September 2010 - 09:30 PM
If that means a temporary move to the Weeping Willows then fine with me. At least that puts us back within the jurisdiction of Salford City Council, and if nothing else gives them a headache when the Willows is pulled down. I doubt if even this Council will want to be seen as putting us out of business. (At least I hope so!)
If we continue with a nomadic existence the whole thing will be taken out of our hands anyway, regardless of how loyal the ever-decreasing band of fans are. The club will simply cease to be viable, and I think our "Board" would agree with that.
I get the feeling that a lot of hard work has been going on behind the scenes. We simply have to play in this area soon. Let's hope it comes off.
Posted 09 September 2010 - 09:02 AM
Posted 09 September 2010 - 11:25 AM
I have heard a whisper from a Folly player that the council want Folly to move to Wardley as they require the land on Pendlebury Rd.
Posted 09 September 2010 - 12:57 PM
What does KingSpeedbump think?
Posted 10 September 2010 - 09:43 PM
I can't see us being allowed to ground share with Folly at a Wardley site even if they do go there from the Blue Ribbon field. After all, Folly will only be playing on a pitch similar to their existing home ground and not any sort of fenced off, enclosed stadium type facility which would be the case should the Lions be involved.
Posted 11 September 2010 - 12:39 PM
I think too much work has gone into Agecroft although the Wardley site is a much better location.Lets hope we hear something positive very soon.
Posted 12 September 2010 - 08:49 PM
i personally think wardley would be a better bet than agecroft, yes i know its green belt land but it has had school buildings on the site and its in a far better location than agecroft, i know folly only play on a field but having a local amature team in a partnership with the lions would open up other funding streams to us, i know folly only reqire a field to play on but surely if the lions owners are serious about us getting our own ground in m27 they should at least look at the wardley school site again as an option, to rule out looking at any option would be a FOLLY as far as i am concerned.
Posted 20 September 2010 - 09:11 PM
Posted 20 September 2010 - 10:07 PM
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