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Tomkins, Eastmond, O'Loughlin, Peacock and Graham


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#1 Wendall

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 08:18 PM

Adrian Morley who had a hugely-successful spell at Sydney Roosters before returning to England four years ago was asked to pick which five Super League stars would make the biggest impact if they moved to Australia

He has gone for Sam Tomkins, Kyle Eastmond, Sean O'Loughlin, Jamie Peacock and James Graham.

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I would tend to agree with him, although I am suprised he has not picked any Wire players.

I hope he is right and at least a few of them mentioned give the NRL a go, Graham would be my bet most realistically, he has done it all in SL and has age on his side.



#2 Hannibal

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 08:22 PM

At least Adrian seems to know what he is talking about.

In fact, he is so right, that if I didn't know better, I'd think he was a Huddersfield fan.

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 08:23 PM

QUOTE (Wendall @ Aug 17 2010, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Adrian Morley who had a hugely-successful spell at Sydney Roosters before returning to England four years ago was asked to pick which five Super League stars would make the biggest impact if they moved to Australia

He has gone for Sam Tomkins, Kyle Eastmond, Sean O'Loughlin, Jamie Peacock and James Graham.

http://www.wigantoda...in_oz_1_1163042

I would tend to agree with him, although I am suprised he has not picked any Wire players.

I hope he is right and at least a few of them mentioned give the NRL a go, Graham would be my bet most realistically, he has done it all in SL and has age on his side.

Maybe he doesn't think their good enough(shocking as it may be for you to comprehend)

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#4 Wendall

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 09:03 PM

QUOTE (terrywebbisgod @ Aug 17 2010, 09:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe he doesn't think their good enough(shocking as it may be for you to comprehend)


Maybe, but usually players big up their own team mates, I admire Mozza for being honest and fair here.

You could argue that the best players at Wire are the imports King, Monaghan and Solomona who are making the English better than what they are.



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Posted 17 August 2010 - 09:05 PM

Shock horror, glamour club wire have no english superstars !! after they get to wembley two years on the trot by avioding a top side on the way !!

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#6 HappyDave

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 09:26 PM

Peacock? I haven't really seen him do anything I was all that impressed with in the past 2 years.

I hope we don't have more than 1 or 2 of the best English players in the SL heading Down Under as I think it would be really detrimental to the SL. Wouldn't S Tomkins need to add 5-10 KGs in the next few years for NRL teams to be interested as they seem to prefer stockier Backs?

Cheap shots, High Tackles & Grapple tackles seem to be part of the game in the NRL so O'Loughlan would probably fit right in. They can have him & Bailly if they like. biggrin.gif

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#7 Hannibal

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 09:31 PM

QUOTE (HappyDave @ Aug 17 2010, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Peacock? I haven't really seen him do anything I was all that impressed with in the past 2 years.

In that case, you have no idea what you are looking for.

Top player.

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 09:41 PM

Peacock would be too old, not sure i would choose o'loughlin either

the other 2 i would have in there place, well thats a difficult one

possibly Tom Briscoe at hull (it pains me to say it as a rovers fan) But he is a top player and is young enough to develop into a great player

and he may not be the best player but i would be interested to see how jamie langley went in the NRL, he is a real grafter and he may not get the accoladed he always puts it in



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Posted 17 August 2010 - 09:42 PM

QUOTE (Wendall @ Aug 17 2010, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would tend to agree with him, although I am suprised he has not picked any Wire players.

I hope he is right and at least a few of them mentioned give the NRL a go, Graham would be my bet most realistically, he has done it all in SL and has age on his side.

Two reasons - whilst most of Wire's English players would be perfectly at home in the NRL, non of them are really 'star' players and one would assume that Morley was being asked for players who could follow Burgess and Ellis and dominate the NRL.

Secondly, there may be the potential that some scouts actually listen to what he's got to say - and I doubt he'd be too popular at the HJ if the club lost a couple of players on his say so.
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#10 HappyDave

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 10:00 PM

QUOTE (Hannibal @ Aug 17 2010, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In that case, you have no idea what you are looking for.

Top player.


Maybe I just haven't managed to seen much of him play. Was he in the G4N squad? Hasn't he been out for a fair bit of the season with his knee injury? Plus he hasn't seemed to be on the pitch very long in the games I've seen him in. He doesn't seem to make much distance with his scoots so how are his passing & tackling?

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#11 Dave T

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 10:06 PM

QUOTE (HappyDave @ Aug 17 2010, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe I just haven't managed to seen much of him play. Was he in the G4N squad? Hasn't he been out for a fair bit of the season with his knee injury? Plus he hasn't seemed to be on the pitch very long in the games I've seen him in. He doesn't seem to make much distance with his scoots so how are his passing & tackling?

huh.gif You are talking about Jamie Peacock (the Leeds and England prop forward) aren't you Dave?

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 10:07 PM

QUOTE (HappyDave @ Aug 17 2010, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He doesn't seem to make much distance with his scoots so how are his passing & tackling?



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#13 HappyDave

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 11:42 PM

QUOTE (Dave T @ Aug 17 2010, 11:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
huh.gif You are talking about Jamie Peacock (the Leeds and England prop forward) aren't you Dave?


Yup! That's the one!

QUOTE (timtum @ Aug 17 2010, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know its late mate.....


Pardon?

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#14 Dave T

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 12:22 AM

QUOTE (HappyDave @ Aug 18 2010, 12:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yup! That's the one!
I'm a bit baffled then. When you refer to scoots, what are you talking about? He has only made 2 runs from acting half all year, and that isn't a prop's role.

Also, not sure what you are getting at when questioning his passing and tackling.


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Posted 18 August 2010 - 06:38 AM

QUOTE (TheDuke @ Aug 17 2010, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
and he may not be the best player but i would be interested to see how jamie langley went in the NRL, he is a real grafter and he may not get the accoladed he always puts it in

He wouldn't get a 1st team game. He might be big guy but he goes down too easily & I can't ever remember him breaking a tackle or really putting the shoulder in and flattening an opposition player like you'd expect a top class forward to do.

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 06:47 AM

QUOTE (HappyDave @ Aug 17 2010, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Peacock? I haven't really seen him do anything I was all that impressed with in the past 2 years.


Apart from being the leader of the forwards of the Superleague Champions for the last 3 years and the capt of England and someone who has NEVER taken a backwards step or gone hiding no matter who he's playing against.

Jamie Peacock is a top player!

Edited by Wiltshire Rhino, 18 August 2010 - 07:10 AM.


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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:08 AM

would like to see a few english backs testing there self in the NRL like the likes of eastmond myler or tomkins an maybe a few centre/wingers such as briscoe shenton or bridge. Would be interesting to see how they do
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#18 HappyDave

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:56 AM

Okay, fair enough guys I'm in the wrong. Plus I'm not going down this line any more... Yeah, you've got it, there's a Committee Meeting tonight. biggrin.gif



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Posted 18 August 2010 - 10:55 AM

I agree on the quality of the list, but I also agree that Peacock is too old now. What point would it have? Much better he spends he final years in England. On the same train of thought, I don't think O'Loughlin is too old to come over. I'd count on him being as successful as Ellis.

No comment really needed on Graham, except that he needs to get over here ASAP.

Tomkins and Eastmond, despite their obvious talent, will have it much harder. They might find themselves at fullback, but would depend on the club (very few clubs without a very good fullback). If they played in the halves, i'd be pretty sure about failure, too much expectation and responsibility in that position. You have to be exceptional to be seen as good enough. Most NRL halves cop it as not being good enough, the rest are Queenslanders (all 4 of them), and their clubs never let go of them. Very hard for an English back to star in the NRL.

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 11:29 AM

QUOTE (CGD @ Aug 18 2010, 11:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tomkins and Eastmond, despite their obvious talent, will have it much harder. They might find themselves at fullback, but would depend on the club (very few clubs without a very good fullback). If they played in the halves, i'd be pretty sure about failure, too much expectation and responsibility in that position. You have to be exceptional to be seen as good enough. Most NRL halves cop it as not being good enough, the rest are Queenslanders (all 4 of them), and their clubs never let go of them. Very hard for an English back to star in the NRL.

I disagree, I reckon both Tomkins & Eastmond would be huge hits in the NRL. From the games i've watched this year I can't recall seeing a single half back who's stood out as being outstanding. Lockyer has done it a couple of times but far less frequently than he used to, Thurston seems to have hobbled out of every match and Marshall is a bit like Pryce, brilliant when he wants to play but oblivious in half the games.




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