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#1 Emosi Koloto

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:17 PM

I thought he played his way into the Warrington 17 man team for Wembley, he ran strongly and offloaded at will.

Vinnie Anderson to miss out imo, what do you Wire fans think ?
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#2 Wendall

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 12:07 AM

QUOTE (Emosi Koloto @ Aug 21 2010, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought he played his way into the Warrington 17 man team for Wembley, he ran strongly and offloaded at will.

Vinnie Anderson to miss out imo, what do you Wire fans think ?


Yeah he's done a good job tonight.

But the main issue with Wire is who out of 5 top class half back/hookers do you drop?

Myler, Briers, Monaghan, Clarke and Higham?

My take is that Mr Smith aka ''The Special One'' will play em all and go all out for Briers and Clarke at half back, with Monaghan at hooker and a bench including Myler (potential match winner) and Higham as rotating hooker.



#3 HappyDave

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 12:25 AM

I guess if Briers was left out of your starting XIII for the Challege Cup Final then all of Warrington would be up in arms. laugh.gif

I know RL isn't like 'Onion' Ariel Ping-pong but I think the key elements of this years Challenge Cup Final will be Sinfield, Westwood & Briers' kicking game. [Briers in-game kicking & Westwood's conversion taking] Oops! Bit off topic. Sorry.

Edited by HappyDave, 21 August 2010 - 12:36 AM.

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#4 Wendall

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 12:33 AM

QUOTE (HappyDave @ Aug 21 2010, 01:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I guess if Briers was left out of your starting XIII for the Challege Cup Final then all of Warrington would be up in arms. laugh.gif

I know RL isn't like 'Onion' Ariel Ping-pong but I think the key elements of this years Challenge Cup Final will be Sinfield, Westward & Briers' kicking game. [Briers in-game kicking & Westward's conversion taking] Oops! Bit off topic. Sorry.


Yeah Briers was left out on purpose tonight. rolleyes.gif If he got injured and not make the final Wire are screwed kicking wise, Myler is great...but yet to master the full art.

I think your right, Westwood is a great kicker for a forward but you can just see the pressure cooker of Wembley and playing in front of 90,000 fans getting to him.



#5 HappyDave

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 12:41 AM

Oops! I misspelt Ben's surname. Damn!

I didn't see tonights game so didn't realise Briers wasn't in the squad, as I was at the gym but I just think the great kicking games of those 3 players will be key elements in the Challenge Cup Final.
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#6 1976PMJwires

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 06:52 AM

QUOTE (Emosi Koloto @ Aug 21 2010, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought he played his way into the Warrington 17 man team for Wembley, he ran strongly and offloaded at will.

Vinnie Anderson to miss out imo, what do you Wire fans think ?




Good post, Cooper will struggle to get in the 17.....Unless carvell doesn't make it thru (slight injury worries)

Mathers
Riley
Atkins
King
Hicks
Briers
Monaghan
Mozza
Clarke
Harrison
L Anderson
Westwood
Solomona

Myler
Higham
Wood
Carvell / Cooper

thats my team for the Final.

#7 Dave T

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 08:36 AM

I like Cooper, but would expect him to miss out for Carvell, who was outstanding in the semi last week, and is ahead of Cooper at the moment.

There are at least two players who will miss out from last night.

#8 Father Ted

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 10:35 AM

For starters, Bridge will play at Wembley with Riley to fb and Mathers missing out.
Briers at 6 with Monaghan to 9 and Clarke off the bench. Higham not included.
That's my punt anyway!

#9 1976PMJwires

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 11:30 AM

QUOTE (Father Ted @ Aug 21 2010, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For starters, Bridge will play at Wembley with Riley to fb and Mathers missing out.
Briers at 6 with Monaghan to 9 and Clarke off the bench. Higham not included.
That's my punt anyway!




Bridge will not be risked for the final. Trust Me.

TS wants him for the play offs

#10 MrPosh

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 12:38 PM

QUOTE (1976PMJwires @ Aug 21 2010, 07:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good post, Cooper will struggle to get in the 17.....Unless carvell doesn't make it thru (slight injury worries)

Mathers
Riley
Atkins
King
Hicks
Briers
Monaghan
Mozza
Clarke
Harrison
L Anderson
Westwood
Solomona

Myler
Higham
Wood
Carvell / Cooper

thats my team for the Final.

Too light on the bench. Whilst all five of your 'top class' hookers/halves may well be in your best seventeen players, you can't play them all.

Leeds mobile pack will run all over that team on a hot afternoon - particularly with Solomona in there. You need another, preferably mobile, forward on the bench - unless you choose to rotate Clarke at loose, which is a bit of a square peg/round hole situation.

I think that Myler might be the one to miss out - which would be a shame as he is a terrific player - but he's less versatile than Clarke, who is probably the weakest of the five.
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#11 Wilderspoolmemories

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 02:26 PM

QUOTE (Emosi Koloto @ Aug 21 2010, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought he played his way into the Warrington 17 man team for Wembley, he ran strongly and offloaded at will.

Vinnie Anderson to miss out imo, what do you Wire fans think ?

He won't get in.
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#12 Blind side johnny

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 04:30 PM


A coach like TS will always go for the tried and tested in big games.


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Posted 21 August 2010 - 05:51 PM

QUOTE (Emosi Koloto @ Aug 21 2010, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought he played his way into the Warrington 17 man team for Wembley, he ran strongly and offloaded at will.

Vinnie Anderson to miss out imo, what do you Wire fans think ?

I thought that last night was possibly Cooper's best performance so far for Warrington. A tremendous achievement for a young man who's family have been through a terribly difficult and emotional period. Well done Mike.

I agree though with many of the other posters that he'll miss out for Carvell. At least he has his winner's medal from last year.

He may not be everybody's two pints of terrible lager, but I reckon Vinnie Anderson has done a very good job this season and probably warrants his place in the 17. What may count against him is simply the fact that he's not at Warrington next season and Smith may decide it's best to have him upset than somebody who'll be in the camp in the future.

I too think Myler may be the one to miss out, but that would be an incredibly big call to make for Tony Smith. Not for Bridge though, I suspect Clarke may be Briers's half-back partner.

#14 Emosi Koloto

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 08:08 AM

I don't see it as Cooper v Carvell, i think with Jon Clarke coming back into the reckoning it is more like Mick Higham could miss out along with Vinnie Anderson.
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#15 Barry Badrinath

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 01:28 PM

QUOTE (Blind side johnny @ Aug 21 2010, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A coach like TS will always go for the tried and tested in big games.



that'll be why he dropped rauhihi for the final last year and played tyke mccarthy in only his 2nd game.

#16 Just Browny

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 03:37 PM

Would be very surprised to see some of the line-ups mentioned on here

Mathers
Hicks
King
Atkins
Riley
Briers
Myler
Morley
Monaghan
Carvell
L Anderson
Westwood
Harrison

Clarke
Wood
Solomona
Cooper

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