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#1 Maximus Decimus

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 12:29 PM

http://www.therhinos.../news/14782.php

I knew they were hard but like a car hitting you at 50mph is a bit too much for my liking!

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#2 yanto

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 05:24 PM

QUOTE (Maximus Decimus @ Aug 28 2010, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.therhinos.../news/14782.php

I knew they were hard but like a car hitting you at 50mph is a bit too much for my liking!

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Evidence and funny as ..... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif*
G force of a car crash 8.5 one of these tackles measured at 10.6 ohmy.gif
RL Collision or daft lad taking hits.



* may have posted before ...but what the heck worth a re run for the laughs

Edited by yanto, 28 August 2010 - 05:32 PM.


#3 hindle xiii

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 05:31 PM

QUOTE (yanto @ Aug 28 2010, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Evidence and funny as ..... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif*
RL Collision or daft lad taking hits.



* may have posted before ...but what the heck worth a re run for the laughs

That's cool!

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 01:13 AM

Lol, Ahn can do is a legend!

#5 no13benny

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 02:30 PM

That's mint.

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#6 Jill Halfpenny fan

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 07:41 PM

I'm sure its real scientific but given the choice of running into Adrian Morley or being involved in a 50 mph road accident I'd take my chances with Morley everytime.
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#7 Blotto

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 07:53 PM

During last pre season the Bulls bought in a new gps system which would monitor players heartbeats breathing and positional play also it monitored the collision impacts made by players and the company that set up the system also set it up previously for the Irish RU team and were gobsmacked by how big the RL impacts were compared to the RU and the phrase they used, that it was like somebody being in a car smash! Although a US tv company apparently made an NFL collision bigger than RL one, but then they use a lot more protection so can go in harder!

Edited by Blotto, 29 August 2010 - 07:55 PM.

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#8 Bitofaboogie

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 07:56 PM

QUOTE (Maximus Decimus @ Aug 28 2010, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.therhinos.../news/14782.php

I knew they were hard but like a car hitting you at 50mph is a bit too much for my liking!

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This is complete twaddle.

The fastest human being on the planet can only manage to attain about 23 mph when running flat out so even if you had two Usain Bolts colliding at full pelt, the maximum impact velocity would be 46mph at the most. Add to this the fact that most RL players do not weigh as much as cars then Baron's conclusions cannot be based upon scientific facts. Not sure how multiple-man tackles will factor in to all this though??



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Posted 29 August 2010 - 08:15 PM

QUOTE (Bitofaboogie @ Aug 29 2010, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is complete twaddle.

The fastest human being on the planet can only manage to attain about 23 mph when running flat out so even if you had two Usain Bolts colliding at full pelt, the maximum impact velocity would be 46mph at the most. Add to this the fact that most RL players do not weigh as much as cars then Baron's conclusions cannot be based upon scientific facts. Not sure how multiple-man tackles will factor in to all this though??


clearly having thaught about this for all of 5 minutes you know better than sombody who has researched the subject for a year.
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#10 hindle xiii

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 08:19 PM

QUOTE (Bitofaboogie @ Aug 29 2010, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is complete twaddle.

The fastest human being on the planet can only manage to attain about 23 mph when running flat out so even if you had two Usain Bolts colliding at full pelt, the maximum impact velocity would be 46mph at the most. Add to this the fact that most RL players do not weigh as much as cars then Baron's conclusions cannot be based upon scientific facts. Not sure how multiple-man tackles will factor in to all this though??

I don't think it's quite that simple. Where's our resident scientist Bob8?!

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#11 Bitofaboogie

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 08:46 PM

QUOTE (steef @ Aug 29 2010, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
clearly having thaught about this for all of 5 minutes you know better than sombody who has researched the subject for a year.

I did O Level physics and have the commonsense to know that if a person was having to undergo the impact of 15-20 fifty mph car crashes 25-30 times per season then the game would be going through players faster than they could replace them.

What's your opinion or are you one of these people who would stick his hand into the fire if an "expert" told him it was the right thing to do?


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Posted 29 August 2010 - 09:34 PM

QUOTE (Bitofaboogie @ Aug 29 2010, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I did O Level physics and have the commonsense to know that if a person was having to undergo the impact of 15-20 fifty mph car crashes 25-30 times per season then the game would be going through players faster than they could replace them.

What's your opinion or are you one of these people who would stick his hand into the fire if an "expert" told him it was the right thing to do?


I think it's clear that it wasn't implying that the forces generated were the same as a car hitting something at 50mph, that would be a ludicrous statement. I assume it meant that the tackle generated the same amount of 'g' forces as being inside a car (wearing a seatbelt) which has an accident at 50mph (and it's not as simple as going from 50mph-0mph because the car will decelerate gradually as the car deforms). Don't forget 'g' force is a momentary measurement at impact so has little to do with top speeds, you can clearly generate a fairly large accelerative force by timing the impact correctly.

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 09:45 PM

QUOTE (Bitofaboogie @ Aug 29 2010, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I did O Level physics and have the commonsense to know that if a person was having to undergo the impact of 15-20 fifty mph car crashes 25-30 times per season then the game would be going through players faster than they could replace them.

What's your opinion or are you one of these people who would stick his hand into the fire if an "expert" told him it was the right thing to do?



My opinion is that several well researched studies, using very modern technology in both the UK and Australia have concluded that some tackles in a game of rugby league have generated Gforce greater than in some car accidents. The types of injury sustained by modern rugby players are often similar to injuries sustained in a car accident.

putting your hand into fire is fine so long as you remove it quickly, try running your hand through the flame of a candle it won't hurt as the heat won't have time to conduct through your skin. Maybe you were ill the week they covered that in O Level Physics.
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 04:30 PM

QUOTE (Jill Halfpenny fan @ Aug 29 2010, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sure its real scientific but given the choice of running into Adrian Morley or being involved in a 50 mph road accident I'd take my chances with Morley everytime.


I think I'd prefer to be involved in the car crash would probably hurt a lot less. biggrin.gif
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 08:12 PM

QUOTE (Bitofaboogie @ Aug 29 2010, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is complete twaddle.

The fastest human being on the planet can only manage to attain about 23 mph when running flat out so even if you had two Usain Bolts colliding at full pelt, the maximum impact velocity would be 46mph at the most. Add to this the fact that most RL players do not weigh as much as cars then Baron's conclusions cannot be based upon scientific facts. Not sure how multiple-man tackles will factor in to all this though??


Bolt's average speed in his 2008 100m sprint was 23mph, but his top speed was just under 27mph, achieved between 50 - 80 meters into the race. He then slowed down and celebrated. Details are here: http://speedenduranc...peed-endurance/

In 2009 he ran even faster and hit a top speed of 27.45mph at the 65m mark as seen in this biomechanical analysis: http://www.articlesb...rd-1137239.html

You must also consider that in a car crash the driver/passenger is protected by the shell of the car which is designed to take away some of the force of the impact (crumple zones) and two people running into each other do not have this luxury.






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