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Ben Farrar is the final element in the new look Catalans quest for silverware


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#21 TheDuke

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 06:39 AM

its okay the superior toilets and on site bistro will help them enormousley

#22 ParisSurtout

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 10:49 PM

The francophobes are crawling out of every nook and cranny.
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#23 jim_57

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 09:06 AM

QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Sep 17 2010, 08:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The francophobes are crawling out of every nook and cranny.


Have to agree, Catalans have got atleast top 6-8 side on paper, if Robinson is any sort of coach they will make the playoffs. To suggest they'll struggle to get out of 14th is a bit of a laugh IMO, unless they have some inside info on Robinson being ordinary?

Just for comparison and to show what difference a good coach can make. Teams may be a bit off.

Crusaders - Catalans
Schifcofske - Greenshields
Thomas - Vaccari
Mellars - Baille
Hanbury - Duport
Kear - Blanche
Witt - Bosc
Sammut - Dureau
O'Hara - Ferrioll
Withers - Henderson
Bryant - Guisset
Chan - Raguin
Hauraki - Fakir
Lupton - Mounis

Flower - Sa
James - Gossard
Mills - Casty
White - Gigot

Based on what I've seen both in the NRL (recently) and SL. I'm an equal fan of both teams. IMO Catalans are easily better on paper yet they will be going in as wooden spooners and Crusaders bouyed off making the play-offs. This year all comes down to Noble being better than Walters... alot better.

#24 BulldogBurt

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 09:22 AM

QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Sep 16 2010, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The francophobes are crawling out of every nook and cranny.


As opposed to Anglophobes like your good self who are, unfortunately, permanently on show rolleyes.gif

#25 ParisSurtout

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 01:16 AM

QUOTE (BulldogBurt @ Sep 17 2010, 05:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As opposed to Anglophobes like your good self who are, unfortunately, permanently on show rolleyes.gif



I have nothing against the English, apart from their ignorant, uneducated, retail service staff, their hopelessly inefficient public transport system, and their dull and unhealthy cuisine in the provincial areas. Traditional English cuisine is incomparably inferior to that of not only France or Italy, but even that of Spain. The English diet has been enlivened by the advent of the spicy South Asian immigrant cuisine. Luckily, because of the European Union and globalism, the English palate has also been relieved by the appearance of French-style baguette sandwich stands at most major London and some regional train stations (copied from the long established originals at French train stations), even if the sandwich menu there includes the decidedly un-French curried chicken.

I know that some of the bad attitude problems the English suffer from comes from their loss of Empire, their dreadful grey weather, and the sense that many socio-economic problems seem insoluble. But I do admire the British grit and endurance under pressure and in a crisis. If it wasn't for the bravery and resolve of the British over the last 70 years, none of us would be able to enjoy the superior pleasures of life in a vibrant free France today.


...... I think that before long Ben Farrar, Scott Dureau, Ian Henderson and Lopini Paea will come to appreciate all of this. Jason Baiteiri already does.

Edited by ParisSurtout, 18 September 2010 - 01:58 AM.

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#26 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 08:31 AM

QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Sep 18 2010, 02:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have nothing against the English, apart from their ignorant, uneducated, retail service staff, their hopelessly inefficient public transport system, and their dull and unhealthy cuisine in the provincial areas. Traditional English cuisine is incomparably inferior to that of not only France or Italy, but even that of Spain. The English diet has been enlivened by the advent of the spicy South Asian immigrant cuisine. Luckily, because of the European Union and globalism, the English palate has also been relieved by the appearance of French-style baguette sandwich stands at most major London and some regional train stations (copied from the long established originals at French train stations), even if the sandwich menu there includes the decidedly un-French curried chicken.

I know that some of the bad attitude problems the English suffer from comes from their loss of Empire, their dreadful grey weather, and the sense that many socio-economic problems seem insoluble. But I do admire the British grit and endurance under pressure and in a crisis. If it wasn't for the bravery and resolve of the British over the last 70 years, none of us would be able to enjoy the superior pleasures of life in a vibrant free France today.


...... I think that before long Ben Farrar, Scott Dureau, Ian Henderson and Lopini Paea will come to appreciate all of this. Jason Baiteiri already does.

And who gave you that free France,not you bunch of cheese eating surrender monkeys tongue.gif
Whose youth perished on your soil to give you the right to denegrate this country?
Be thankful that Britain and it's allies saved your sorry excuse for a country.

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#27 1976PMJwires

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 09:44 AM

QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Sep 18 2010, 02:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have nothing against the English, apart from their ignorant, uneducated, retail service staff, their hopelessly inefficient public transport system, and their dull and unhealthy cuisine in the provincial areas. Traditional English cuisine is incomparably inferior to that of not only France or Italy, but even that of Spain. The English diet has been enlivened by the advent of the spicy South Asian immigrant cuisine. Luckily, because of the European Union and globalism, the English palate has also been relieved by the appearance of French-style baguette sandwich stands at most major London and some regional train stations (copied from the long established originals at French train stations), even if the sandwich menu there includes the decidedly un-French curried chicken.

I know that some of the bad attitude problems the English suffer from comes from their loss of Empire, their dreadful grey weather, and the sense that many socio-economic problems seem insoluble. But I do admire the British grit and endurance under pressure and in a crisis. If it wasn't for the bravery and resolve of the British over the last 70 years, none of us would be able to enjoy the superior pleasures of life in a vibrant free France today.


...... I think that before long Ben Farrar, Scott Dureau, Ian Henderson and Lopini Paea will come to appreciate all of this. Jason Baiteiri already does.




laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Look in the mirror and ask yourself why are you such a t!t wink.gif



#28 TheDuke

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 10:12 AM

I FOR ONE AM TIRED OF THE INANE DRIVEL HE SPOUTS IN SUCH A CONDESENDING MANNER

I FOR ONE AM SURE HE DOES IT TO ANTAGONISE AND PATRONISE PEOPLE ON HERE, WELL I AM AFRAID IF THATS WHERE HE GETS HIS KICKS THEN SO BE IT

#29 1976PMJwires

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 10:23 AM

So Gixxer


What is your opinion of Paris Now?????

You said i was a bully, far from it, i just can't stand the sh!te from his posts.

Edited by 1976PMJwires, 18 September 2010 - 10:24 AM.


#30 ParisSurtout

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 01:44 PM

QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Sep 17 2010, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But I do admire the British grit and endurance under pressure and in a crisis. If it wasn't for the bravery and resolve of the British over the last 70 years, none of us would be able to enjoy the superior pleasures of life in a vibrant free France today.



QUOTE (terrywebbisgod @ Sep 18 2010, 04:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And who gave you that free France,not you bunch of cheese eating surrender monkeys tongue.gif
Whose youth perished on your soil to give you the right to denegrate this country?
Be thankful that Britain and it's allies saved your sorry excuse for a country.


I admitted that and expressed my admiration to the British for their character strengths. Read my second paragraph that I quoted above again. How did you miss it?

Edited by ParisSurtout, 18 September 2010 - 01:47 PM.

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#31 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 01:45 PM

QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Sep 18 2010, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I admitted that and congratulated the British for their character strengths. Read my second paragraph again.

Yet you still feel the need to denigrate us.
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#32 ParisSurtout

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 01:53 PM

Now, can we avoid all these nationalistic outbursts, and get back to discussing rugby league? .....

.....particularly the nice set of new players that Les Catalans Dragons have purchased, and how it will make them playoff contenders next season.

Edited by ParisSurtout, 18 September 2010 - 01:53 PM.

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#33 The Parksider

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 02:45 PM

QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Sep 18 2010, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now, can we avoid all these nationalistic outbursts, and get back to discussing rugby league? .....

.....particularly the nice set of new players that Les Catalans Dragons have purchased, and how it will make them playoff contenders next season.


Where are Toulouse going next year? Be realistic?


#34 1976PMJwires

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 02:49 PM

QUOTE (ParisSurtout @ Sep 18 2010, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now, can we avoid all these nationalistic outbursts, and get back to discussing rugby league? .....

.....particularly the nice set of new players that Les Catalans Dragons have purchased, and how it will make them playoff contenders next season.



so the play offs are for the TOP 14 next year wink.gif

#35 L Bow

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 03:05 PM

QUOTE (terrywebbisgod @ Sep 18 2010, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And who gave you that free France,not you bunch of cheese eating surrender monkeys tongue.gif
Whose youth perished on your soil to give you the right to denegrate this country?
Be thankful that Britain and it's allies saved your sorry excuse for a country.


The Americans.

#36 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 03:17 PM

QUOTE (L Bow @ Sep 18 2010, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Americans.

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#37 ParisSurtout

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 10:51 AM

It appears that Ben Farrar is not the final element in the Catalans rebuilding after all.

http://www.smh.com.a...0923-15o69.html

Steve Menzies and Ben Farrar will now add the Manly connection to Les Catalans lineup.

The Catalans pack is now looking very strong indeed. Lopini Paea will also be important there.

Edited by ParisSurtout, 23 September 2010 - 10:53 AM.

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#38 ParisSurtout

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 10:10 PM

The squad now looks like this:

Full Back: Clint Greenshields

Wings: Freddy Vaccari, Cyrille Stacul, Damien Blanche

Centres: Ben Farrar, Setamaita Sa, Jean-Philippe Baile, Vincent Duport,


Stand off/Five eighth : Thomas Bosc, Tony Gigot,

Scrum half: Scott Dureau, William Bartheau,


Lock/Loose: Gregory Mounis, Jason Baiteiri,

Second Row: Sebastien Raguin, Dane Carlaw, Jamal Fakir, Cyrille Gossard, Steve Menzies

Props: David Ferriol, Remy Casty, Jerome Guisset, Lopini Paea, Sebastien Martins, Mickael Simon

Hooker: Ian Henderson.


Farrar will be a top quality cover for Greenshields if the latter is injured. He can also play as stand off. Otherwise Farrar will be starting as centre.

Sa can play centre or back row. Carlaw is better as a backrower but can play prop if needed (Six specialist props is not enough for a long season).

The only real weakness there is lack of quality cover for the hooker. Baile is not a specialist hooker and nor is Gigot, who is also not good enough in that position. Kane Bentey should have been retained.

Still this looks like a real playoff side.

Edited by ParisSurtout, 25 September 2010 - 10:20 PM.

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#39 TheDuke

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Posted 26 September 2010 - 09:44 AM

wingers look a bit week

#40 ParisSurtout

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Posted 26 September 2010 - 10:32 PM

QUOTE (TheDuke @ Sep 26 2010, 05:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wingers look a bit week


Perhaps. That is the weakest part of the lineup.

If they are looking for speed then they go for Vaccari and Blanche. If they want a strong bullocking runner with strong defence then they play Vincent Duport there (he will not be a first choice centre with all the others fit).

The side actually has too many classy backrowers. Apart from Gossard I would not know who to drop from the second row. Carlaw has to be in the first choice side, but so do Menzies and Fakir. So do you drop Raguin, who is a top notch defender and a strong runner with an offload? Embarrassment of riches in the second row.
The pack will be awesome, despite the loss of Elima.
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