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#21 Saint Billinge

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 10:43 AM

[quote name='Bitofaboogie' date='Sep 5 2010, 11:40 AM' post='2113630']
What offence?

Even if there was an offence who knows for how long it was committed and by whom?

That shadow just won't go away now will it??
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Only from certain fans who are judge and jury.

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#22 Bitofaboogie

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 11:18 AM

QUOTE (Bitofaboogie @ Sep 5 2010, 11:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What offence?

Even if there was an offence who knows for how long it was committed and by whom?

That shadow just won't go away now will it??
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Only from certain fans who are judge and jury.

So you agree that the shadow does exist then?


#23 Padge

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 12:25 PM

QUOTE (Saint Billinge @ Sep 5 2010, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Errrrrrrrr! Fifty years home and away. biggrin.gif What I'm saying is why the 'whole' of his career as you mentioned? Did the alleged wrongdoing happen from day one?

Alleged? he was found guilty. laugh.gif

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KEIRON CUNNINGHAM, the St Helens, Wales and Great Britain hooker, was revealed yesterday as the high-profile rugby league player found guilty in May of having taken a performance-enhancing drug. He tested positive for HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadotrophin), the hormone protein




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#24 Saint Billinge

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 02:37 PM

QUOTE (Bitofaboogie @ Sep 5 2010, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So you agree that the shadow does exist then?


Not at all. Without solid evidence one way or the other, how can anyone justify saying 'all of his career'?

Just like the referee postings, you seem to be judge and jury!

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#25 Saint Billinge

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 04:11 PM

QUOTE (Padge @ Sep 5 2010, 01:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Alleged? he was found guilty. laugh.gif

From Times Online July 22, 2003

Cunningham named as guilty man in drugs affair

By Christopher Irvine

KEIRON CUNNINGHAM, the St Helens, Wales and Great Britain hooker, was revealed yesterday as the high-profile rugby league player found guilty in May of having taken a performance-enhancing drug. He tested positive for HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadotrophin), the hormone protein


I'll concede that I got my wording wrong and that you are always right! biggrin.gif

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 05:52 PM

To quote con-air.

Bitofaboogie is a font of misplaced rage. Name your cliché; Mother held him too much or not enough, last picked at Rugby, late night sneaky uncle, whatever. Now he's so angry moments of levity actually cause him pain; gives him headaches. Happiness, for that gentleman, hurts.

The moment of Levity last night for Kerion must be really hurting Bitofaboogie today.
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Edited by bewareshadows, 05 September 2010 - 05:53 PM.

Super League the only place in the world where people still believe that less competitors and a closed market to new competition will improve the quality of the product.

Even the Chinese and the Cubans gave up on these marxist principles years ago.


SL with a reduced number of competitors and a closed market = North Korea.

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 06:00 PM

I'm just glad the game was at KR and not the Jungle. Could you imagine the chanting from the macho Cas hordes if Child and Cunningham had embraced in front of them!!!!

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 06:01 PM

QUOTE (3owls @ Sep 4 2010, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How wrong was it to see james childs embracing Keiron Cunningham.......very wrong if you ask me. If Childs gets the saints v wire game i'd be very worried as a warrington fan. Cunninghams been on the end of some very charitable decisions from referees throughout his career and this is a very worrying show of affection from a so called impartial referee.


Listen mate, if you are going to start a petty row at least get your facts right. Ben Thaler was the referree last night. Childs was VR. At the end of the game Thaler & KC shook hands (as normal) & Thaler patted KC on the shoulder. Haardly an embrace but as usual on here facts dont matter where cheapshots are concerned rolleyes.gif
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#29 Padge

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 06:56 PM

QUOTE (saintsbird @ Sep 5 2010, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Listen mate, if you are going to start a petty row at least get your facts right. Ben Thaler was the referree last night. Childs was VR. At the end of the game Thaler & KC shook hands (as normal) & Thaler patted KC on the shoulder. Haardly an embrace but as usual on here facts dont matter where cheapshots are concerned rolleyes.gif

If that version of events is correct then there is no issue.


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Posted 05 September 2010 - 06:59 PM

QUOTE (Saint Billinge @ Sep 5 2010, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll concede that I got my wording wrong and that you are always right! biggrin.gif

I am not always right, I do as often as possible try to back up my argument, if others don't that is their problem. tongue.gif


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Posted 05 September 2010 - 07:04 PM

QUOTE (saintsbird @ Sep 5 2010, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Listen mate, if you are going to start a petty row at least get your facts right. Ben Thaler was the referree last night. Childs was VR. At the end of the game Thaler & KC shook hands (as normal) & Thaler patted KC on the shoulder. Haardly an embrace but as usual on here facts dont matter where cheapshots are concerned rolleyes.gif

My mistake.........referee was Thaler, apologies.

Your mistake..............Thaler put his arm around Cunningham (waits for reciprocal apology).

Way too cosy and not professional or impartial. I don't care how long cunningham has been playing the game it's a worrying trend amongst officials who are getting far too close to players and are letting players reputations and credentials affect their judgement and decision making. Thalers gone down in my estimation, what was wrong with a quick handshake rather than his fawning sickly behaviour?

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 07:11 PM

QUOTE (3owls @ Sep 5 2010, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My mistake.........referee was Thaler, apologies.

Your mistake..............Thaler put his arm around Cunningham (waits for reciprocal apology).

Way too cosy and not professional or impartial. I don't care how long cunningham has been playing the game it's a worrying trend amongst officials who are getting far too close to players and are letting players reputations and credentials affect their judgement and decision making. Thalers gone down in my estimation, what was wrong with a quick handshake rather than his fawning sickly behaviour?


I saw McGuire get far too close to the Leeds' fans by jumping on the perimeter wall. Should be a no-go area. cool.gif

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 07:44 PM

QUOTE (3owls @ Sep 5 2010, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My mistake.........referee was Thaler, apologies.

Your mistake..............Thaler put his arm around Cunningham (waits for reciprocal apology).

Way too cosy and not professional or impartial. I don't care how long cunningham has been playing the game it's a worrying trend amongst officials who are getting far too close to players and are letting players reputations and credentials affect their judgement and decision making. Thalers gone down in my estimation, what was wrong with a quick handshake rather than his fawning sickly behaviour?


I have watched it today & looked specifically for it after reading this thread & he pats him on the shoulder. there is no embrace at all
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Posted 05 September 2010 - 08:18 PM

QUOTE (3owls @ Sep 5 2010, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Your mistake..............Thaler put his arm around Cunningham (waits for reciprocal apology).

Put his arm round him? Dear god, thats almost marriage. What a quite pathetic thread this is.

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 10:19 PM

QUOTE (saintsbird @ Sep 5 2010, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have watched it today & looked specifically for it after reading this thread & he pats him on the shoulder. there is no embrace at all

I'm not into splitting hairs but he pats him three times on the back/shoulder after the handshake. A handshake yes, three pats on the back saintsbird, i'm not having that. Having just played a major part in possibly losing Castleford their place in superleague cunningham is given far too much attention from the official for my liking. I wonder if him and Ganson went out for a coca cola with Keiron after the game.

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 10:29 PM

QUOTE (3owls @ Sep 5 2010, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wonder if him and Ganson went out for a coca cola with Keiron after the game.

There has been no reports of old ladies being beaten up in St.Helens last night so probably not.

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 10:31 PM

QUOTE (Padge @ Sep 5 2010, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There has been no reports of old ladies being beaten up in St.Helens last night so probably not.

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 03:53 PM

QUOTE (dkw @ Sep 5 2010, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Put his arm round him? Dear god, thats almost marriage. What a quite pathetic thread this is.



I was wondering who would be the first to notice after amh.
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 03:55 PM

QUOTE (amh @ Sep 5 2010, 08:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There should be an invisible 2m around the officials that no player should cross unless by accident (eg running at full pelt, but even then they should be seen to make every effort to avoid collision, perhaps put their hands behind their backs or down their shorts so that they avoid any flailing arms). The 2m should be extended if any player has very long arms, legs or massive beer belly.

However, officials can cross the 2m themselves, but only to talk in a gruff voice. They must never smile, wink or have any normal conversation with any player or coach.

After they retire from officialdom, they may have 'normal' contact with ex players etc, but not with any current players or coaches

1 year after they retire, they can speak to anyone - but never bring the game into disrepute by discussing present officials - gossip or facts

After 2 years they can marry them if they like - then the 2m will naturally come back, along with the long silences, stern voices, and making every effort to avoid contact


Quality of the highest order, with this kind of apptitude you are bound for Red Hall as an exec with an RFL number plate.
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 03:57 PM

QUOTE (Saint Billinge @ Sep 5 2010, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll concede that I got my wording wrong and that you are always right! biggrin.gif


Can't belive you forgot yourself and thought he was wrong.

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