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#1 Griff9of13

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 07:52 AM

Well, according to The Daily Star dry.gif
"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 07:57 AM

According to another rumour he's off to coach South Sydney. And then there's the one about him going to Worcester RU.

I know the report in the Star says he'd be Matthew Elliott's 'right-hand man', but he would be assistant coach. Would he be willing to drop down after all this time as head coach?


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Posted 07 September 2010 - 08:00 AM

QUOTE (thirteenthman @ Sep 7 2010, 08:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
According to another rumour he's off to coach South Sydney. And then there's the one about him going to Worcester RU.

I know the report in the Star says he'd be Matthew Elliott's 'right-hand man', but he would be assistant coach. Would he be willing to drop down after all this time as head coach?

Not sure, but then I suppose any amount of time spent in Aus mixing with their top coaches could provide invaluble experiance.
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 08:04 AM

agreed and he might think its worth if for the chance of going out there. totally new challenge.
he's won it all here. go there be an understudy for a couple of years then chance his hand as a coach in the NRL.
taking over from smith worked well for him at Bradford!

#5 West Country Eagle

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 08:28 AM

SInce Noble loves packing his teams with Aussie journeymen, taking up a role in Australia seems perfect for him.
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 08:39 AM

QUOTE (West Country Eagle @ Sep 7 2010, 08:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
SInce Noble loves packing his teams with Aussie journeymen, taking up a role in Australia seems perfect for him.
Absolutely! I was thinking the very same thing. I never rated him as a coach before and could never imagine him being succesful in Oz. Assuming he ends up there of course.

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 08:44 AM

I thought you were supposed to go from Assistant to Head Coach, not Head Coach and ex test Coach to Assistant.
Plenty of Assistant Coaches have a very low profile in Australia and many never get the chance at a top job, the ones that do often have to wait many years look at Ivan Henjak as one example.

Steven Kearney is the Kiwi Test Coach but can not crack an NRL top job, neither could the previous Kiwi Coach the Leeds current Coach.
Could be a very long wait if true.


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Posted 07 September 2010 - 08:45 AM

Double post

Edited by AndyCapp, 07 September 2010 - 08:46 AM.


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Posted 07 September 2010 - 11:50 AM

Noble has always been quite open about wanting to coach in the NRL.. and theres no way he'd get a head coaches job without serving some time as an assistant.. there are plenty of assistant coaches in the NRL who have coached top grade sides before.. royce simmons and steve folkes spring to mind. so dont think he'll be too worried about not being in total control.. hope he does have a go down under..

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 11:58 AM

QUOTE (EastLondonMike @ Sep 7 2010, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Noble has always been quite open about wanting to coach in the NRL.. and theres no way he'd get a head coaches job without serving some time as an assistant.. there are plenty of assistant coaches in the NRL who have coached top grade sides before.. royce simmons and steve folkes spring to mind. so dont think he'll be too worried about not being in total control.. hope he does have a go down under..


Both of your examples are Coaches that have been sacked from the top job though.
Simmons had zero chance of a top spot again in the NRL.
Folkes has come back from fitness Coach for the West Indies Cricket team to a similar role at Wests, he is no chance at Head Coach in the NRL again, he has pushed his barrow everywhere and in fact would have been better for Saints or Bradford than what they have chosen.

Edited by AndyCapp, 07 September 2010 - 11:59 AM.


#11 usain bolt

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 12:02 PM

ian millward had loads of success at saints as head coach and also had a head coach role at wigan, 2 of super leagues glamour coaching jobs yet only got a sniff over in austailia as an assistant coach. think it was at north queensland and canberra.

i dont think the aussies give much recognition to coaches who have done well in the english super league, daniel anderson being a slight exception, i just think they dont regard the english super league as being anything special.

Edited by usain bolt, 07 September 2010 - 12:05 PM.


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Posted 07 September 2010 - 12:20 PM

QUOTE (usain bolt @ Sep 7 2010, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ian millward had loads of success at saints as head coach and also had a head coach role at wigan, 2 of super leagues glamour coaching jobs yet only got a sniff over in austailia as an assistant coach. think it was at north queensland and canberra.

i dont think the aussies give much recognition to coaches who have done well in the english super league, daniel anderson being a slight exception, i just think they dont regard the english super league as being anything special.



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#13 Blind side johnny

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 12:53 PM

QUOTE (AndyCapp @ Sep 7 2010, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought you were supposed to go from Assistant to Head Coach, not Head Coach and ex test Coach to Assistant.



Almost - you go from Assistant Coach/Masseur/Kit Man in NRL to Head Coach in SL, not from Sl to NRL; then the situation is reversed.

The interesting thing is that Noble (who I do personally rate) is very sensitive tp personal criticism. The NRL will be a perfect arena for a shrinking violet.




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Posted 07 September 2010 - 11:06 PM

Perhaps he just wants to live in Australia and learn as a coach? The more coaches and players plying their trade in the NRL the better for me.
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Posted 08 September 2010 - 01:45 AM

QUOTE (Simon Templar @ Sep 7 2010, 09:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Absolutely! I was thinking the very same thing. I never rated him as a coach before and could never imagine him being succesful in Oz. Assuming he ends up there of course.



Why dont you rate him as a coach?

#16 Allan Marsden

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 09:24 PM

He is going to Penrith as assistant coach to Elliott. It was agreed a few weeks ago which makes a nonsense of his statements in the press. Maybe the RL media play along with the farce.

Mediocre coach and awful for youth development

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 02:11 PM

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Mediocre coach and awful for youth development


January 2010 finds Brian Noble with a team of fewer than 10 players, playing in a town 100 miles from its home base and where there is little indigenous support and a negligible number of juvenile local rugby league players.

Financial constraints mean that he cannot pay transfer fees for players and cannot pay wages up to the full salary cap. He signs journeymen with no top-level international experience to play in Superleague but also continues the development of Welsh players via a link with the South Wales Scorpions, who are also starting from scratch at a new ground and under new ownership.
Young Welsh players such as Elliot Kear, Lloyd White, Ben Flower get some opportunity to play in Superleague that no other club would have offered them.

September 2010 finds the Crusaders in the playoffs, ahead of Bradford, Wakefield, Castleford, Catalans and London. The Scorpions finish sixth in Championship 1, ahead of Workington, London and Gateshead.


You're right ... after following up a career history of winning three Grand Finals and a Challenge Cup with Bradford, the saving Wigan from relegation with this kind of abject failure at Wrexham ... he must be a rubbish coach.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 02:47 PM

QUOTE (Wolford6 @ Sep 12 2010, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
January 2010 finds Brian Noble with a team of fewer than 10 players, playing in a town 100 miles from its home base and where there is little indigenous support and a negligible number of juvenile local rugby league players.

Financial constraints mean that he cannot pay transfer fees for players and cannot pay wages up to the full salary cap. He signs journeymen with no top-level international experience to play in Superleague but also continues the development of Welsh players via a link with the South Wales Scorpions, who are also starting from scratch at a new ground and under new ownership.
Young Welsh players such as Elliot Kear, Lloyd White, Ben Flower get some opportunity to play in Superleague that no other club would have offered them.

September 2010 finds the Crusaders in the playoffs, ahead of Bradford, Wakefield, Castleford, Catalans and London. The Scorpions finish sixth in Championship 1, ahead of Workington, London and Gateshead.


You're right ... after following up a career history of winning three Grand Finals and a Challenge Cup with Bradford, the saving Wigan from relegation with this kind of abject failure at Wrexham ... he must be a rubbish coach.

How many effing medals have you got?
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 03:08 PM

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Good post - well said.

agreed. good luck Nobby.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 04:09 PM

QUOTE (Wolford6 @ Sep 12 2010, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
January 2010 finds Brian Noble with a team of fewer than 10 players, playing in a town 100 miles from its home base and where there is little indigenous support and a negligible number of juvenile local rugby league players.

Financial constraints mean that he cannot pay transfer fees for players and cannot pay wages up to the full salary cap. He signs journeymen with no top-level international experience to play in Superleague but also continues the development of Welsh players via a link with the South Wales Scorpions, who are also starting from scratch at a new ground and under new ownership.
Young Welsh players such as Elliot Kear, Lloyd White, Ben Flower get some opportunity to play in Superleague that no other club would have offered them.

September 2010 finds the Crusaders in the playoffs, ahead of Bradford, Wakefield, Castleford, Catalans and London. The Scorpions finish sixth in Championship 1, ahead of Workington, London and Gateshead.


You're right ... after following up a career history of winning three Grand Finals and a Challenge Cup with Bradford, the saving Wigan from relegation with this kind of abject failure at Wrexham ... he must be a rubbish coach.

How many effing medals have you got?
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Great post H, says it all. Nobby's the best British coach of the Super League era by a country mile.
And when they found our shadows
Grouped around the TV sets
They ran down every lead
They repeated every test
They checked out all the data on their lists
And then the alien anthropologists
Admitted they were still perplexed
But on eliminating every other reason
For our sad demise
They logged the only explanation left
This species has amused itself to death
No tears to cry no feelings left
This species has amused itself to death