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#1 wings beneath my feet

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 11:39 AM

At least our players have the good manners to wait until the seasons over before they announce they are off (well done ropati) Shed(yes shed) Royston is off to Bradford and can't wait to make sure his current team and fans know.

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 07:46 PM

QUOTE (wings beneath my feet @ Sep 18 2010, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
At least our players have the good manners to wait until the seasons over before they announce they are off (well done ropati) Shed(yes shed) Royston is off to Bradford and can't wait to make sure his current team and fans know.

Yes and going to Bradford rubbed it in biggrin.gif

However he did get a standing ovation and a thunderous "There's only one SHAD Royston from the Fax on Sunday.

If he were to break his leg in his first match though, well wink.gif

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 11:46 AM

I haven't heard a single Fax fan wish Shad anything but good luck and the "Shed" comment was, quite frankly, puerile. Tell me honestly that Sheffield wouldn't jump at the chance to sign a player of his calibre who has been one of the best players in the Championship for several years now.

He has been an exceptional player and clubman for Fax over the last 4 seasons scoring over 20 trys in 2008 and over 30 in 2009 and 2010. He is, without doubt, Superleague quality and deserves his chance to prove himself at that level.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 11:53 AM

QUOTE (FaxMachine @ Oct 1 2010, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I haven't heard a single Fax fan wish Shad anything but good luck and the "Shed" comment was, quite frankly, puerile. Tell me honestly that Sheffield wouldn't jump at the chance to sign a player of his calibre who has been one of the best players in the Championship for several years now.

He has been an exceptional player and clubman for Fax over the last 4 seasons scoring over 20 trys in 2008 and over 30 in 2009 and 2010. He is, without doubt, Superleague quality and deserves his chance to prove himself at that level.


who gives a shed!

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 07:38 PM

QUOTE (wings beneath my feet @ Oct 1 2010, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
who gives a shed!

Rumour has it that Fax are chasing Tel yer papa before his new contract runs out, oooops sorry i meant as soon as his new contract runs out (almost another law suite on it's way) but part of the deal will mean he can't play against the Eagles until he decides to change his mind because he did, didn't, did, didn't, did did did x 10 agree to it in the first place, AND.

Mr Calland does rate a certain J Woodcock so could be a scoop story breaking here.

Edited by ruggerbeleeg, 01 October 2010 - 07:39 PM.


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Posted 01 October 2010 - 10:05 PM

QUOTE (wings beneath my feet @ Oct 1 2010, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
who gives a shed!


...and again.

Balls still not dropped then, I take it?

#7 wings beneath my feet

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 09:57 AM

what I don't understand is why people with a little brass (more than the average) throw money at clubs like Barrow and Fax when it's bleeding obvious there is not a cat in hells chance that they will ever get out of the championship again - why not just make them a good (and decent championship club and be happy)

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 11:15 AM

QUOTE (wings beneath my feet @ Oct 2 2010, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what I don't understand is why people with a little brass (more than the average) throw money at clubs like Barrow and Fax when it's bleeding obvious there is not a cat in hells chance that they will ever get out of the championship again - why not just make them a good (and decent championship club and be happy)

Good point Wings.

Let me try and explain why being a decent championship club does not equate to being happy as you put it.

Up to now there was a small glimmer of hope that clubs such as Halifax who had a good history and were once in super league and a strong force prior to it could get back there.

Halifax is a founder member of rugby league and is very much still a heartland rugby league TOWN as well as a rugby league club.

No dissrespect intended but Sheffield is not a rugby league TOWN but it has a rugby league club and that's maybe why you don't understand.

You would have to be brought up and live in a rugby league TOWN to understand but could you see St Helens as a club or a TOWN settling for second best.

Everything goes in cycles and at the moment Halifax are not in as strong a position both on and off the field as they once were but it does not stop them trying to get back to the top.

It would be like saying to Sheff Wednesday and Sheff United just stay where you are and be happy don't try and get back to the top flight.

Would that be right and how do you think that would go down??

The better players would not be interested in coming to that type of club,the gates would plummet,
less cash coming in and even staying at that level would soon become unsustainable.

The very nature of league and division based sport is promotion and relegation you can't be content to stay still, stagnation leads to oblivion simple as that mate.

Another point is that the not a cat in hells chance is being imposed by the RFL on it's own clubs of the lower leagues under the banner of expansion.

Why should there not be a cat in hells chance.

Have a look at what i think of the whole franchise system in the thread "Franchise Farce" on the Barrow site.

Soon the money will stop being spent at clubs like Barrow, Halifax and the rest because no one is going to drive down a cul de sac and the competion will be of such poor standard no one will be going.

Edited by ruggerbeleeg, 02 October 2010 - 11:21 AM.


#9 wings beneath my feet

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 12:52 PM

thought that might get someone going - born and bred in west riding mate! I'd be a Bulldog if I hadn't broaden my life! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 02:36 PM

[quote name='wings beneath my feet' date='Oct 2 2010, 01:52 PM' post='2132494']
thought that might get someone going - born and bred in west riding mate! I'd be a Bulldog if I hadn't broaden my life! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Is that a posh way of saying you have put on weight and moved to Sheffield: biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

It's just banter anyway mate because the powers that be will do what they want and i've long passed beating myself up over someting i have no control over.

Really though you did hit on a very interesting point and that was of not understanding that of a rugby league TOWN.

It might not apply to you but it does to some who are currently at RFL headquaters.

Mr Lewis is a former tennis player and head of the LTA from Surrey, hardley a hot bed of rugby league, the only similarity is that sometimes there's grass about.

This OUT OF TOWN mentality is a big part of the problem as he won't even be aware of what damage he is doing as he won't have stood on the touchlines when winter rugby was being played or travelled mile after mile for years supporting his team, he probably has never payed to watch a rugby league game in his life and therefore has no emphathy whatsoever.

It's just being approached like any other sport / buisness venture, the trouble is rugby league truly USED to be different from other sports as ONLY rugby league folk will understand.

Sadly the OUT OF TOWNERS will be the bring us downers.

Mr Wood however should know better as he USED to be true rugby league, hell he was at Halifax and knows better than anyone how tough it is but nice comfort zone has changed all that. wink.gif but what the hell as long as Richard and Nigel and there mates are happy and catered for what wrong with destroying the odd rugby league community alond the way.

Come on Eagles, Come on Bulldogs, Come on Rugby League and Viv La France. biggrin.gif

Edited by ruggerbeleeg, 02 October 2010 - 02:54 PM.


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Posted 02 October 2010 - 05:26 PM

Sheffield, of course, is in the West Riding. dry.gif
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Posted 02 October 2010 - 06:03 PM

QUOTE (Griff @ Oct 2 2010, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sheffield, of course, is in the West Riding. dry.gif

How does da work that out de is getting mixed up da doesn't know de ridings from da elbow de dunt. biggrin.gif

Edited by ruggerbeleeg, 02 October 2010 - 06:27 PM.


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Posted 02 October 2010 - 08:12 PM

QUOTE (ruggerbeleeg @ Oct 2 2010, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It would be like saying to Sheff Wednesday and Sheff United just stay where you are and be happy don't try and get back to the top flight.


Isn't that what they've told? I assumed they were following these instructions based on their performances.
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Posted 03 October 2010 - 10:09 PM

QUOTE (ruggerbeleeg @ Oct 2 2010, 07:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How does da work that out de is getting mixed up da doesn't know de ridings from da elbow de dunt. biggrin.gif


<sigh>

I expect it was in the South Riding, was it ?
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Posted 04 October 2010 - 07:04 AM

QUOTE (Griff @ Oct 3 2010, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
<sigh>

I expect it was in the South Riding, was it ?


Double sigh. Of course not but Batley is in the West Riding hence Wings reference to being a Bulldog if he was still in this part of Yorkshire.
You are the only one who has ever mentioned Sheffileld being in West Yorks and your getting your wires crossed.
Get some specs and re read the posts. tongue.gif

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 09:55 AM

QUOTE (ruggerbeleeg @ Oct 4 2010, 08:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Double sigh. Of course not but Batley is in the West Riding hence Wings reference to being a Bulldog if he was still in this part of Yorkshire.
You are the only one who has ever mentioned Sheffileld being in West Yorks and your getting your wires crossed.
Get some specs and re read the posts. tongue.gif



I can see a geographical war starting here - Sheffield was in the West Riding when I was born - but I was attempting to explain that I was from a traditional rugby league town! another point - I might not at that time been close to the action - but I can't rememeber hearing of many clubs going under financially - except for the east lancs/ scarborough pirates etc - the "traditional" clubs didn't seem to ?? huh.gif huh.gif


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Posted 04 October 2010 - 12:32 PM

QUOTE (ruggerbeleeg @ Oct 2 2010, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Halifax is a founder member of rugby league

So What??


QUOTE (ruggerbeleeg @ Oct 2 2010, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Halifax is a founder member of rugby league and is very much still a heartland rugby league TOWN as well as a rugby league club.
No dissrespect intended but Sheffield is not a rugby league TOWN but it has a rugby league club and that's maybe why you don't understand.


Halifax is a rugby town?????

Fax - population of 82500 - Calderdale - 192000

That means only around 2% of Fax and it's surrounding area watches Fax!! Rugby town?/ I'd suggest a town with a rugby club also!!! A grandfinal winning club, but a town with a rugby club nontheless!

Edited by Robin Evans, 04 October 2010 - 12:35 PM.

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 01:39 PM

QUOTE (Robin Evans @ Oct 4 2010, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So What??




Halifax is a rugby town?????

Fax - population of 82500 - Calderdale - 192000

That means only around 2% of Fax and it's surrounding area watches Fax!! Rugby town?/ I'd suggest a town with a rugby club also!!! A grandfinal winning club, but a town with a rugby club nontheless!


So what. Exactly that's just what the RFL are thinking.

I refer to the rest of the post in the context of the OUT OF TOWN MENTALITY (Richard Lewis is from Surrey, which is just about as far away as you can get).

2% You could use those type of stats with any traditional rugby league town and come up with the same percentages they don't mean a thing, is Featherstone for example not a rugby league town because only a small number of the population goes to games at the moment.

Halifax was and still is a Rugby League TOWN in the context of those that follow sport.

If you were to speak to the sporting fraternity of Halifax they would talk about and have an opinion on rugby league both at profesional and amatuer level so it's not just about those who pay to watch.

That would not be the case with Sheffield that only have a few hundred home supports and even less to away games so stats again is a false argument ,how would the same statistics work out in Sheffield?

There are 200 people where i work and many of them are from Sheffield and surrounding districts i speak to them often about the game but not one of them watches or are interested in rugby league.

There are a number of reasons why people don't pay anymore but one of them is because they ARE from a traditional rugby league background and don't like what they see happening to the game it's changed so much it's not the game they once loved.

Because of this if Halifax were to go out of buisness i and many others would walk away from the game tomorrow and never look back and so would a lot of other teams supporters.

In fact it would be good to ask that very same question on the other teams sites and see what answers come back.

The question.

If your team were to go out of buisness how many of you would walk away and not look back with the state of the game at the moment

As regards Halifax being a rubgy league TOWN, still just at the moment but not for much longer, as each successive generation comes through the interest is getting less and less and it may end up as a town with no proffesional rugby team at all.

Sheffield never has been and never can be a rugby league TOWN in comparison to the traditional clubs from both sides of the border simply because they were not around at proffesional level when the game started and developed.

That does not mean however that they are some lesser club or their fans are some lesser supporters in fact it means the opposite, to put a competative team on the field like they do with a small yet loyal and passionate fan base and limited resources tops many other sides and is in place now not because what happened decades ago in a completely different time.

Speaking personally and for all the Halifax fans i know Sheffield are thought of as a tough quality side that can beat any side home or away and will be there or there abouts come the end of the season and deserve and command respect.

As regards Sheffield being in the West Riding, Wings and Griff can talk about that because that's who raised it in the first place and not me.

Edited by ruggerbeleeg, 04 October 2010 - 02:30 PM.


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Posted 04 October 2010 - 05:04 PM

QUOTE (ruggerbeleeg @ Oct 4 2010, 08:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You are the only one who has ever mentioned Sheffileld being in West Yorks and you're getting your wires crossed.
Get some specs and re read the posts. tongue.gif


I never mentioned Sheffield being in West Yorkshire.

Get some specs and re read the posts. tongue.gif


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Posted 04 October 2010 - 05:07 PM

QUOTE (ruggerbeleeg @ Oct 4 2010, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As regards Sheffield being in the West Riding, Wings and Griff can talk about that because that's who raised it in the first place and not me.


True - but you were the one who said it was b0ll0cks.

I've resisted the tempation to point out that Sheffield isn't a town ....... (How restrained is that ? laugh.gif )
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