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#21 my missus

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 05:40 PM

ha ha leeds fans begining to get a bit twitchy, looking for excuses already, oh its going to be fun on saturday biggrin.gif

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#22 Simon Templar

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 06:29 PM

How on earth Phil Clarke can make the said comment is completely unprofessional. I'll let others on here argue the toss about McGuires alleged cheating. But Clarke is meant to be impartial as a RL commentator. I'm pretty sure SKY don't pay him to be Wigans' highest profile cheerleader, but that is exactly what he's becoming these days.
His Wigan bias when their games are televised is becoming too obvious. The other ridiculous remark re Joel Tomkins kick out in the first round play off is further proof that the bloke should be replaced by the SKY commentary team,if only for Wigans' televised matches. Let's face it he's getting so worked up as his team progresses, that if the pies actually win the GF, we might well see him running around Old Trafford with the Wigan team and the SL trophy


#23 dkw

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 06:34 PM

Clarke is embarrassing when Wigan are on, he just cant bring himself to distance himself as a fan and as a neutral it really annoys the hell out of me. Its ridiculous how he looks at everything through cherry and white glasses, saying Tomkins kick was nothing yet losing it over Maguire was ridiculous and showed just how bad he can be.

#24 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 06:36 PM

Now,now fellas, Mr Clarke is a fair minded,impartial summariser and we in Leeds won't have a bad word said against him. cool.gif
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#25 Hannibal

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 06:53 PM

Clarke is only there to even up the score with regards to Eddie's creampie moments every time Saints are on, and Baldie's constant bias towards any team that has the misfortune to be based in Yorkshire.



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Posted 20 September 2010 - 07:03 PM

QUOTE (Hannibal @ Sep 20 2010, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Clarke is only there to even up the score with regards to Eddie's creampie moments every time Saints are on, and Baldie's constant bias towards any team that has the misfortune to be based in Yorkshire.

Yeah Stevo really backed Hull KR on Friday rolleyes.gif
He's that far up Clarkeys ######,it's unbelievable.

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#27 Hannibal

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 07:08 PM

QUOTE (terrywebbisgod @ Sep 20 2010, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah Stevo really backed Hull KR on Friday rolleyes.gif
He's that far up Clarkeys ######,it's unbelievable.

Hull KR are in Humberside.



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Posted 20 September 2010 - 07:33 PM

QUOTE (carlos @ Sep 20 2010, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
FFS all this McGuire cheating is really geting on my nerves. Having to read over and over again about his "blatant" cheating. It was so clear that mcguires knee gave way as he tracked back and stood on carmonts foot. as he tries to break his fall he grabs the only thing he can, the player.

It was a cowards act of ridell to stand over a player clearly in agony. more to the point no one seems to realise that as play went on and richards kicked BEFORE being tackled, said kick rolled inoccuously in to touch, carmont nor richards nor anyone else would have got on to it.

As a bradford man i hate to see leeds win, they "cheated" their way to a win at millenium, but big deal, every club gets calls and doesnt get calls.Had Richards converted any of the other relatively kickable goals then no one would be having this conversation, its just the fact that Wigan lost.

No doubt wigan will now win at headingley with leeds 2 main players out injured and all this will be forgotten, until come 4 nations time when we could have really done with McGuire.

Clarke is big time out of order as was riddell, to slag over a fellow player in such a way is disgraceful.

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As a bradford man i hate to see leeds win, they "cheated" their way to a win at millenium
Hang on a minute leeds didn't cheat they played to the whistle,it was gansons fault he didn't go to the screen.

#29 3owls

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE (Hannibal @ Sep 20 2010, 05:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

Pressure is beginning to tell.

It certainly is , on Wigan. They've choked twice now against leeds when it mattered and having the bookies make them favourites on saturday certainly takes the pressure off leeds. I'm hoping for a slugfest on Saturday because there will be only one winner.......and it won't be Wigan. We all know Fielden has a glass jaw and needed Peacock to be his minder against the aussies, as for ASBO Tomkins and Leuluai, did you see their arses fall out when JJB ran in and sorted them after they threw their weight about following Abletts hit on Ratboy. I've never seen two rugby players look so scared in my life. Bring it on Wigan. As for Phil Clarkes comments, very very disappoiniting and comments he will live to regret. Have you got a new sarnie box for saturday?

#30 FlattenedbyWard

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 08:32 PM

Maguire is a sneaky little rat- always third man in and grapple tackling.

If he was thick enough to try what he did- albeit successfully and cheat- then he deserves his injury as a lesson that cheats never prosper. What annoys neutral fans like me is that Maguire can be playing as magnificently as he has been and also carry on like he does.

As for cowardly- Mister Peacock should look closer to home at the Rhinos who possess the biggest one in the league in Ryan Bailey. At least justice was done and Radford got off for dishing out what he deserved!

#31 GIANTSTRIDES

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 08:46 PM

QUOTE (FlattenedbyWard @ Sep 20 2010, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maguire is a sneaky little rat- always third man in and grapple tackling.

If he was thick enough to try what he did- albeit successfully and cheat- then he deserves his injury as a lesson that cheats never prosper. What annoys neutral fans like me is that Maguire can be playing as magnificently as he has been and also carry on like he does.

As for cowardly- Mister Peacock should look closer to home at the Rhinos who possess the biggest one in the league in Ryan Bailey. At least justice was done and Radford got off for dishing out what he deserved!


If every player who gave away a penaty, or committed a pro foul, or as you choose to call it Cheated, deserved an injury, there would be a lot of players in intensive care, some of them for the rest of there lives

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#32 MrFussy

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 10:57 PM

I'm guessing Peacock's comments weren't so much a personal attack as they were an attempt to promote the game by spicing things up and judging by this thread he's certainly succeeded biggrin.gif

As a Saints fan I've never really minded Clarke before despite his obvious Wigan bias at times, it can often be funny and he generally brings some interesting analysis to the table. He does seem to have gone off the boil lately though, his boxing analogy which he wouldn't drop all throughout Friday's game was irritating and completely pointless. He was silly to write these comments and he should apologise but I don't think for one minute that he would wish Maguire any harm. If anyone really does believe that a serious injury is a deserved comeuppance for such an incident then they must have rather odd priorities.

Personally wish Maguire a full and speedy recovery and in the meantime hope for another two great games this weekend.


#33 bewareshadows

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 10:57 PM

But in the end he did grab the lad, just because he got injured in the process makes it no less of a cheat.

That's like the idiot who when drunk at night stupidly walks on your wall, slips off and breaks his leg. I may go out angry he walked on my wall, but I didn't build it with the intention for him to slip and fall off it.

It maybe the first time he walked on mine or anyones wall, it maybe the hundredth. Others may walk on my wall all the time and get away scott free.

It's got nothing to do with Rugby gods, justice or karma. In the end he's just unlucky, but it still does not mean he did not cheat in that one off instance. By all means feel sorry for his injury but don't use the injury to suggest it being something that it was not.

I didn't hear weeping and grinding of teeth for Eastmond when he got injured just running a ball up against Leeds, not that I'd expect it, but the reaction to an unlucky injiry from Leeds seams to be way out of proportion.

Try playing with both half backs tied behind your back, then you'll know what unlucky is. When you lose 4 half backs well I suppose that's careless on Saints behalf (and before you ask the 4 are Pryce, Eastmond, Lomax, Wheeler) Smith was our 5th and not even last choice for most of this year.

Just pick another and get on with it. Just hope Maguire makes it back for your appearance in the WCC if you get that far.
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#34 Wolford6

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 06:00 AM

QUOTE (bewareshadows @ Sep 20 2010, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just hope Maguire makes it back for your appearance in the WCC if you get that far.



Yes, he's building up quite a collection of WCC Loser's Medals.

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#35 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 06:46 AM

QUOTE (Hannibal @ Sep 20 2010, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hull KR are in Humberside.

The East Ridng of Yorkshire.
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#36 boxhead

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 07:35 AM

Where is Humberside, No such place is there?

#37 Exiled Wiganer

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 09:54 AM

I may have missed this, but did McLennon apologise for accusing Wigan players of injuring McGuire (when he was of course injured fouling Carmont)? Did I miss that retraction.
Clarke's views may be pie tinted and wrong - though I can see what he means, injuring yourself fouling someone feels different from injuring yourself playing fairly - he is speaking as a pundit. Nobody for a moment associates Schofield's comments with the Leeds club, so why should they Clarke's any more than using Hannibal's views as motivation to up their game against Wigan.
Peacock's comments are of a different order - he is his country's most recent captain. Unless Piggy and Leuluai knew that mcGuire was injured, and neither of them is medically qualified, you could understand their reaction and suspicion that McGuire's injury was convenient. Given the previous of the Leeds team in "gamesmanship" and moaning and groaning theirs was not a disproportionate reaction.
It is tragic he was injured, for him and his country, but the hysterical and self-righteous response from the Leeds club does them no creit. It is fine for nutters like 3owls to give us his "wisdom", but for McClennan and Peacock to say what they say is petulant and lacks any class.
I suspect, like Saints bottling (in the true sense of the term) playing Wigan, fear is the primary factor at play.

#38 Viking Warrior

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 10:15 AM

i remember watching the league game from shedingley against saints just before the semi final what a pure coincidence that both pryce and eastmond were injured and missed the semi, in the wigan game in the play offs, what a coincidence that paul deacon was injured so early in the game which he was bossing. and now the whino's are whinging about mcguire..................pot kettle and black spring to mind.
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#39 Allan Marsden

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 04:07 PM

QUOTE (terrywebbisgod @ Sep 20 2010, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How do you know I never played the game?My career was ended by a serious knee injury.I know what sort of pain Danny felt and to have two classless clowns acting like that is reprehensible.
Phil Clarke may be entitled to his opinions but his "rugby gods" piece is disgraceful.
If Piggy and Leuluai had chased after Richards and not Mcguire maybe you'd have won.
Yet another pathetic Wigan fan.Only a few decent ones on this board now.
By the way, don't patronise me by calling me "sunshine" allright dear.


No his article is fair and balanced. The Rugby Gods part is not his view. You obviously missed Clarke giving his view "IMO he has been excellent/outstanding for Leeds this season"

As somebody who has played the game then you should know that the players reaction was one that is the norm in sport to such an act of cheating at such an important part of a game. You would also know and there was no reason to think otherwise that his injury was not initially to be thought to be very serious. When Valencia was badly injured for Man Utd it was immediately obvious. The Wigan v Leeds it was far from obvious. Indeed, many thought he was feigning injury knowing he had commited foul play. An agge old tactic that you as somebody who has played the game would be well aware of.

I imagine and believe you have a very good knowledge of the game but where Leeds are concerned bias overrides knowledge and objectivity.

Edited by Allan Marsden, 21 September 2010 - 05:09 PM.


#40 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 04:27 PM

QUOTE (Allan Marsden @ Sep 21 2010, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No his article is fair and balanced. The Rugby Gods part is not his view. You obviously missed Clarke giving his view "IMO he has been excellent/outstanding for Leeds this season"

As somebody who has played the game then you should know that the players reaction was one that is the norm in sport to such an act of cheating at such an important part of a game. You would also know and there was no reason to think otherwise that his injury was not very serious. When Valencia was badly injured for Man Utd it was immediately obvious. The Wigan v Leeds it was far from obvious. Indeed, many thought he was feigning injury knowing he had commited foul play. An agge old tactic that you as somebody who has played the game would be well aware of.

I imagine and believe you have a very good knowledge of the game but where Leeds are concerned bias overrides knowledge and objectivity.

Ditto Wigan.

McGuire's injury could well act as a lesson to any other player watching that it doesn't pay to cheat. Perhaps the rugby Gods have punished him for his unsportsmanlike play. Either way, he'll be a massive loss for Leeds and I can't see them winning the Grand Final without him. In my opinion, he's been brilliant for them this season.
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Edited by terrywebbisgod, 21 September 2010 - 04:32 PM.

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