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#1 thepimp007

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 01:51 PM

probably been done a thousand times but if you could pick a 17 for the opening game of the four nations who would you pick? id go for

1) Widdop
2) Hall
3) Atkins
4) Shenton
5) Briscoe
6) S.Tomkins
7) Eastmond (if fit)
8) Fielden
9) Sinfield
10) Morley
11) Burgess
12) Ellis
13) O'Loughlin

14) Roby
15) Westwood
16) Lynch
17) J.Tomkins

sure theres a couple in there ill get slated for wink.gif

#2 scotthouston2008

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 02:03 PM

james graham?

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 02:07 PM

swap shenton for gleeson and graham for j.tomkins and your there.
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#4 scotthouston2008

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 02:38 PM

QUOTE (steef @ Sep 22 2010, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
swap shenton for gleeson and graham for j.tomkins and your there.


graham for lynch and your there wink.gif

#5 thepimp007

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 05:26 PM

i might get shot down in flames for it but id have lynch in if 100% because i thoink his go forward is good, although graham did slip my mind wub.gif

#6 hunsletgiant

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 06:43 PM

Graham for Fielden and Crabtree for Lynch.

Probably get grief for this but Cudjoe for Shenton.

#7 Maximus Decimus

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 05:26 PM

QUOTE (hunsletgiant @ Sep 22 2010, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Graham for Fielden and Crabtree for Lynch.

Probably get grief for this but Cudjoe for Shenton.


Looks like you got no grief!

#8 jackknife

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 07:32 PM



1) S.Tomkins
2) Hall
3) Atkins
4) Shenton
5) Briscoe
6) Myler
7) Eastmond (if fit)
8) Graham
9) Sinfield
10) Morley
11) Burgess
12) Ellis
13) O'Loughlin

14) Roby
15) Westwood
16) Crabtree
17) J.Tomkins

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#9 boxhead

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 12:29 PM

Myler and Crabtree?
Myler is no certainty for his Club.
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#10 Brigg Rover

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 12:31 PM

QUOTE (jackknife @ Sep 23 2010, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
1) S.Tomkins2) Hall
3) Atkins
4) Shenton
5) Briscoe
6) Myler
7) Eastmond (if fit)
8) Graham
9) Sinfield
10) Morley
11) Burgess
12) Ellis
13) O'Loughlin

14) Roby
15) Westwood
16) Crabtree
17) J.Tomkins


This is a must!!!


#11 1976PMJwires

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 12:42 PM

I'm getting very worried about England.

forget the wings and centre postition in the backs.

WTF!! are we going to do at 1,6,7


Tomkins is the only player we have fully fit and ready


we have injuries (maguire & eastmond)

Myler not ready ....but looking more likely to start by the week @ 7

so do we gamble on Widdop @ FB Sam @ SO and Myler @ SH


or do we dare and go for Sam @ 1 Kevin Brown @ 6 and Rob Burrow @ 7

we have a massive headache and only SAM TOMKINS IMHO is ready.
(i do worry ST will show his poor temperament)

#12 boxhead

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 12:49 PM

QUOTE (Brigg Rover @ Sep 25 2010, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is a must!!!


Tomkins is a quality player without a doubt.

The Australians calculate the plays like a War room.
They will see his weight/height and defensive/attack skills and Coach their team to a point against him.

Small/light, defensively questionable.

Answer

Isolate him under the kick.
Target him with running back rowers.
Hit him hard and if nothing else blunt his attack options.
Put him one on one with speedy faster 100kg+ backs that might step him, run over him or beat him for pace.

Fullback will be England's hot spot this 4 Nations.

Edited by AndyCapp, 25 September 2010 - 12:51 PM.


#13 HappyDave

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 01:04 PM

I'd saw Wellens or Mathers at FB as Widdop probably isn't experienced enough. No idea who would replace Eastmond & McGuire though. I think Sam Tompkins should be at Half Back only playing FB as his alternative position. I'd definitely have Westwood on the bench over Joel Tomkins though.
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#14 FlattenedbyWard

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 01:11 PM

1) Widdop
2) Hall
3) Atkins
4) Shenton
5) Fox
6) S.Tomkins
7) Eastmond (if fit)
8) Fielden
9) Sinfield
10) Morley
11) Burgess
12) Ellis
13) O'Loughlin

14) Roby
15) Westwood
16) Graham
17) J.Tomkins

My only change would be Graham/Fox

I'd also have in the Squad:-
Wellens
Burrow
Briscoe
JJB
Gleeson
John Clarke
Steven Wild
Luke Robinson
Gareth Carvell

#15 Exiled Wiganer

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 01:58 PM

I am assuming Eastmond won't go, and so Sam has to play in the halves. Happily, with Sinny and Lockers, we could play Myler as a support runner. He is very good if he has the right players around him, he just doesn't read play that well. I wouldn't lose any sleep over Widdop at 1. He doesn't play in first grade much, but he does have Slater in front of him. His knowledge of the Aussies standards will be invaluable. Hence...
Widdop - Briscoe - Gleeson - Atkins - Hall - Sam - Myler
Graham - Sinny - Burgess - Ellis - Westwood - Lockers
... Roby - Morley - Fielden - Joel (if he concentrates on rugby)
I genuinely think that team has a chance. Westwood's emergence into a world class player is key in ensuring we have no weak links in the pack. Fielden has been terrific this year, and seems to be playing better in the play offs. Getting hit by Mason and hitting him back seems to have done wonders for him.
Wellens, Flannagan, Fox, Shenton, Crabtree, Lynch and JJB would be my back up players.

#16 HappyDave

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 03:06 PM

'Exiled' would you play Westwood out of position as a Prop rather than Morley???

I'd be happy with either Kevin Brown or Rob Burrow in the Backs as people are kidding themselves that Eastmond will be fit. But I think we need Sam Tomkins as a Half Back.

Edited by HappyDave, 25 September 2010 - 03:16 PM.

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#17 Exiled Wiganer

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 03:16 PM

He could do a job there, but I think him on one side and Ellis on the other hitting hard in defence and attack will be vital, given the strengths in the centres that the Antipodeans have.

#18 HappyDave

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 03:20 PM

So what position would you play Burgess if you'd have Ellis & Westwood as the 2nd Rows? huh.gif
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#19 hindle xiii

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 03:29 PM

Once again, the pack not only picks itself but there probably two, even three, packs. The backs, we're screwed.

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 03:31 PM

I think we can get a decent 3/4 line from Hall, Gleeson, Briscoe plus one. We miss Bridge. Shenton showed he can play at this level, and Atkins offers something unexpected (as he doesn't seem to know what he's doing at times the opposition are bound to struggle). I am far from despondent. If Sam gets injured then we are in deep trouble though.




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