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#1 HaroldShand

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 03:52 PM

Personally, I was absolutely horrified at the sight of the Bradford Bulls Pledge 10'000 promotion bus parked in the car park of the Yorkshire Mill Village (less than one mile from Mount Pleasant) in Batley this morning. I understand the bus also visited not only the Birstall area, from where my club draws a good number of fans, but the cente of Dewsbury.
Batley has a professional Rugby League club, as does Dewsbury, and we struggle year after year to attract fans on a miniscule promotional budget. In reality, we have to rely on our on-field success to attract floating, and fickle local supporters.
As well as this cynical and selfish campaign in our towns being both morally and ethically wrong, Batley and Dewsbury are not even located in the same local authority as Bradford.
In 1996, the Batley and Dewsbury clubs lost hundreds of existing and potential fans to Bradford Bulls, following a similarly cynical promotion drive, which included a school visitation programme in the Heavy Woollen district, despite the existence of similar schemes run by our professional sporting organisations.
If any Bradford Bulls supporters wish to bicker with me over their right to advertise in other towns that already have long-standing Rugby League clubs, I would like to ask them how they would feel about, lets say, a Leeds Rhinos drive to attract fans from the Bradford area, which included a blue and amber promotional bus parked in the middle of Forster Square.

Edited by HaroldShand, 23 September 2010 - 03:53 PM.

What I'm looking for is someone who can contribute to what England has given to the world: culture, sophistication, genius. A little bit more than an 'ot dog, know what I mean?

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 03:56 PM

Survival of the fittest, go hard or go home.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 03:58 PM

QUOTE (HaroldShand @ Sep 23 2010, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Personally, I was absolutely horrified at the sight of the Bradford Bulls Pledge 10'000 promotion bus parked in the car park of the Yorkshire Mill Village (less than one mile from Mount Pleasant) in Batley this morning. I understand the bus also visited not only the Birstall area, from where my club draws a good number of fans, but the cente of Dewsbury.
Batley has a professional Rugby League club, as does Dewsbury, and we struggle year after year to attract fans on a miniscule promotional budget. In reality, we have to rely on our on-field success to attract floating, and fickle local supporters.
As well as this cynical and selfish campaign in our towns being both morally and ethically wrong, Batley and Dewsbury are not even located in the same local authority as Bradford.
In 1996, the Batley and Dewsbury clubs lost hundreds of existing and potential fans to Bradford Bulls, following a similarly cynical promotion drive, which included a school visitation programme in the Heavy Woollen district, despite the existence of similar schemes run by our professional sporting organisations.
If any Bradford Bulls supporters wish to bicker with me over their right to advertise in other towns that already have long-standing Rugby League clubs, I would like to ask them how they would feel about, lets say, a Leeds Rhinos drive to attract fans from the Bradford area, which included a blue and amber promotional bus parked in the middle of Forster Square.


They've done nothing wrong - if you don't want a ticket dont pledge - if you do, the bus may just have reminded you that deadline day is not far off.

That's one hell of a rant

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#4 HaroldShand

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 04:01 PM

QUOTE (Kenilworth Tiger @ Sep 23 2010, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They've done nothing wrong - if you don't want a ticket dont pledge - if you do, the bus may just have reminded you that deadline day is not far off.

That's one hell of a rant


So you'd be happy to see the Bradford Bulls peddling their cheap season tickets in the middle of Castleford? I bet a large number of your fans, and especially your clubs board of directors, would be deeply unhappy.
What I'm looking for is someone who can contribute to what England has given to the world: culture, sophistication, genius. A little bit more than an 'ot dog, know what I mean?

#5 HaroldShand

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 04:21 PM

QUOTE (scotthouston2008 @ Sep 23 2010, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Survival of the fittest, go hard or go home.


Without wishing to turn this into a personal slanging match, does this motto explain the roaring success of your own playing career?


What I'm looking for is someone who can contribute to what England has given to the world: culture, sophistication, genius. A little bit more than an 'ot dog, know what I mean?

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 04:34 PM

QUOTE (HaroldShand @ Sep 23 2010, 05:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Without wishing to turn this into a personal slanging match, does this motto explain the roaring success of your own playing career?

Sounds like sour grapes to me!

#7 Mumby Magic

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 04:35 PM

Firstly, I can't understand why we've gone there whilst there are other areas of Bradford he could have gone, like Brighouse etc.

However.

We got slated when we went in and around Halifax in the early years of Super League. Halifax were in Super League. And?

Certain threads on here show why our sport is struggling. A club is proactive but "have to do it in certain areas". It's is a harder point to get across simply because Dewsbury and Batley are lower league. Before anyone slates me that I don't kknow what I am on about or am too biased because I am supporter of a Super League Club - I worked at Batley Bulldogs for 18 months.

The road to proverbial success is there for anyone. Every club can generate there own opportunities. The Bulls are spending money to promote the club. There is one point in that sentence alone.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 04:38 PM

Harold

I wouldn't worry. The fact that they are having to drive around Batley and Dewsbury may show how desperate they are.
Now if you had Leeds in town ,then you may have something to worry about biggrin.gif

#9 Mumby Magic

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 04:40 PM

............and in response to Leeds promoting in Bradford they don't need to! There are already a large proportion of people from Bradford support Leeds because we are a fickle lot. happy.gif

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#10 HaroldShand

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 04:44 PM

QUOTE (Mumby Magic @ Sep 23 2010, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Firstly, I can't understand why we've gone there whilst there are other areas of Bradford he could have gone, like Brighouse etc.

However.

We got slated when we went in and around Halifax in the early years of Super League. Halifax were in Super League. And?

Certain threads on here show why our sport is struggling. A club is proactive but "have to do it in certain areas". It's is a harder point to get across simply because Dewsbury and Batley are lower league. Before anyone slates me that I don't kknow what I am on about or am too biased because I am supporter of a Super League Club - I worked at Batley Bulldogs for 18 months.

The road to proverbial success is there for anyone. Every club can generate there own opportunities. The Bulls are spending money to promote the club. There is one point in that sentence alone.


Theres nothing wrong in spending money to promote the club. Just don't spend that money on promoting the Bradford Bulls club in areas outside of Bradford that already have long-established Rugby League clubs that exist on a shoestring budget in terms of everything from player wages to self promotion. As I stressed, our clubs don't have the spending power to fund a glitzy promotional campaign, but that doesn't make it morally and ethically right for Bradford Bulls to pitch up less than a mile from both our respective grounds and start a recrtuitment drive.
What I'm looking for is someone who can contribute to what England has given to the world: culture, sophistication, genius. A little bit more than an 'ot dog, know what I mean?

#11 West Country Eagle

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 04:55 PM

Yep, harsh. A bit naughty from the Bulls IMHO.

It does highlight the problems of having so many pro RL clubs close together - you're all chasing the same fans. RL strength is also it's weakness. It's easier for clubs in big cities (e.g Leeds), as there are plenty of places to promote. Bradford, Halifax etc are so close together it makes it tough.
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Posted 23 September 2010 - 05:08 PM

QUOTE (Mumby Magic @ Sep 23 2010, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Firstly, I can't understand why we've gone there whilst there are other areas of Bradford he could have gone, like Brighouse etc.



When did they move Brighouse into Bradford?

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 05:16 PM

QUOTE (HaroldShand @ Sep 23 2010, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Theres nothing wrong in spending money to promote the club. Just don't spend that money on promoting the Bradford Bulls club in areas outside of Bradford that already have long-established Rugby League clubs that exist on a shoestring budget in terms of everything from player wages to self promotion. As I stressed, our clubs don't have the spending power to fund a glitzy promotional campaign, but that doesn't make it morally and ethically right for Bradford Bulls to pitch up less than a mile from both our respective grounds and start a recrtuitment drive.


Yep, I do partly agree with you. It does seem strange to do it in that location. Is there anything wrong with it? Morally? Probably. Literally? No.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 05:19 PM

QUOTE (a.n Other @ Sep 23 2010, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When did they move Brighouse into Bradford?


Minute it left Huddersfield, they'll be camping up in Fixby next

Has the bus been upto to silsden/keighley yet? biggrin.gif





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#15 Mumby Magic

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 05:35 PM

QUOTE (a.n Other @ Sep 23 2010, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When did they move Brighouse into Bradford?


Sorry in my capacity as Bulls marketing manager it is now. Same as Dewsbury and Batley. tongue.gif

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#16 Mortis

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 06:02 PM

QUOTE (HaroldShand @ Sep 23 2010, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would like to ask them how they would feel about, lets say, a Leeds Rhinos drive to attract fans from the Bradford area, which included a blue and amber promotional bus parked in the middle of Forster Square.

Well, they can park there if they like but no one will see them as it's now part of the big hole tongue.gif

Beside, I have seen a bus with "that team to the east of Bradford" plastered all over it driving through Bradford.
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#17 Blind side johnny

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 06:13 PM



I take it that Batley aren't applying for a franchise after all then Harold?




Unfortunately many SL fans don't give a stuff for the rest of the game as long as their own club is going to be OK.


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Posted 23 September 2010 - 06:29 PM

I was in The Mill at Batley, Scopos or whatever you want to call it, (the shopping centre) Monday before last. On the ground floor there is a sports shop that sold NRL shirts (there was one over the road but it shut). However they had copious amounts of 2009 Hull FC shirts.

And many Leeds Rhinos shirts.

I expect a similar thread any minute.

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#19 hindle xiii

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 06:31 PM

I couldn't find a pic of an angry enough farmer with a pitchfork to compare to Harry.

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 07:21 AM

Typical bradford.Not enough interest in a city of a few hundred thousand so instead of doing real development and marketing decide to try and get fans from towns where Rugby League is strong. The bulls also raid Halifax and heavy woolen areas for academy players making big promises only to let them rot away and become disillusioned with the game.A good mate of mine at one amateur club in Halifax said they now advise players not to sign with Bradford due to a couple players experiences there.




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