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Sad news - Terry Newton


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#121 clement

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 02:56 PM

Why.It's so so sad.RIP

#122 Methven Hornet

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 04:16 PM

QUOTE (Dave T @ Sep 27 2010, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My Granddad died last week, and without sounding heartless, Newton's death yesterday knocked me for 6 more than my relative.

For somebody so young to take their life like this is heartbreaking. Reading the newspaper on my lunch with a full page in the news section dedicated to him was surreal.

My Granddad was 80, and whilst he had suffered, he had lived a full life. Newton is younger than me.

Not heartless at all. My mother died last year and my dad in 1999, at ages 78 and 76 respectively. Although obviously upsetting, I found it relatively straight forward to come to terms with their passing. They were not old in today's terms, but neither did they die 'before their time' - in sporting terms I think of them both achieving hard-fought draws!

There is no such comfort in premature death and the loss of the young, whether that loss is through a road traffic accident, depression (as seems to be the case here) or some other illness. I cried uncontrollably at the death of my young nephew years ago, was deeply disturbed when my teenage son's mate died at the wheel of his car just a few weeks ago, and, similarly, can see nothing but tragedy in Terry's sad demise.
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#123 Jimbull

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 05:34 PM

the guy was a hero ..... glad we had him at bradford ... he will be sadly missed


rip terry

#124 faz'_nose

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 05:44 PM

As with (I presume) many/most others on the site, I have thought about Terry all day. As others have said he was a fierce competitor on the field. I know that I was disappointed when he left Wigan.

He was also a player that I saw out and about quite a few times over the years and, the scariest thing is, the last time I saw him he was pushing a buggy. In fact I think that he was with his family the last couple of times that I saw him around town. For me, obviously, that's what makes it worst of all.

To echo the thoughts of the overwhelming majority of the posters in this thread, at sad times like this we get to see just what a huge family all the fans of TGG really are.

Rest in Peace Terry.

#125 Vambo

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 05:50 PM

Absolutely gutted when I heard the news and been a bit down about it since.
Always a favourite player of mine.

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 05:50 PM

A minutes silence will be held at GF
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#127 The Clan

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 06:37 PM

RIP Terry

Condolences and thoughts to his Wife, children and his family.

I'll remember him for his contribution to the game which was considerable, he served GB and England well and also played for the biggest clubs, in the biggest games in our sport. He was a whole hearted player who never conceded an inch and made his opponents fight for anything they got from him. Whatever his reputation, on field persona or off the field mistakes, he was a member of our Rugby League community

The RFL should examine exactly how they deal with players who have lost their livelihoods and good name due to transgressions. I'm not saying that anyone did anything wrong but we must ensure that we take care of the well being of those individuals who fall foul of society's ills.

Maybe there was nothing more that anyone could have done to help Terry get through but we should at least examine our procedures and aftercare to prevent any individual from feeling that this is the only way out!

I hope that everyone at the Grand Final pays their respects to Terry Newton.


#128 Old Frightful

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 06:45 PM

QUOTE (The Clan @ Sep 27 2010, 07:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
RIP Terry

Condolences and thoughts to his Wife, children and his family.

I'll remember him for his contribution to the game which was considerable, he served GB and England well and also played for the biggest clubs, in the biggest games in our sport. He was a whole hearted player who never conceded an inch and made his opponents fight for anything they got from him. Whatever his reputation, on field persona or off the field mistakes, he was a member of our Rugby League community

The RFL should examine exactly how they deal with players who have lost their livelihoods and good name due to transgressions. I'm not saying that anyone did anything wrong but we must ensure that we take care of the well being of those individuals who fall foul of society's ills.

Maybe there was nothing more that anyone could have done to help Terry get through but we should at least examine our procedures and aftercare to prevent any individual from feeling that this is the only way out!

I hope that everyone at the Grand Final pays their respects to Terry Newton.

Very well put.

I've been thinking about this all day.

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#129 faz'_nose

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 07:10 PM

QUOTE (The Clan @ Sep 27 2010, 07:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope that everyone at the Grand Final pays their respects to Terry Newton.



I'd like to believe that anybody not paying their respects would be part of an extremely small minority.

#130 Hannibal

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 07:11 PM

QUOTE (faz'_nose @ Sep 27 2010, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd like to believe that anybody not paying their respects would be part of an extremely small minority.

And that they would get a decent slapping.

#131 Blind side johnny

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 07:13 PM


Both sad and tragic.

Condolences to the family.
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#132 Simon Templar

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 09:40 PM

Whatever mistakes Terry Newton made in his life, the tragedy of his passing has shocked us all.
None of us could ever imagine the torment that must have been going through the lads mind. Even more sadly his family as well as grieving for him , will probably be tormented at the manner of his passing for a long time to come.

I have no doubt that the minutes silence will be observed (as it always is at these sad times) - impeccably.
However when we pause and contemplate Terry Newton on Saturday lets all spare more than a passing thought for the family he's left behind as they are suffering intolerable anguish at this very sad time.

#133 ckn

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 09:17 AM

A well-written obituary in the Daily Mail

Andy Wilson's version in the Guardian

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#134 Viking Warrior

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 09:35 AM

like a lot of opposition fans terry was the one player we loved to hate, but i think that was because we all secretly admired him. the last game widnes played against wigan in super league at home, he absolutely destroyed us with a virtuoso performance, what is sad is that underneath all the pantomime villain exterior on the field terry was a brilliant player who for me was the only hooker of his generation that could come close to keiron cunningham.

RIP terry the world of rugby league is all the poorer for your untimely passing.
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#135 MrFussy

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 09:35 AM

Very sad times, he was one of the most committed players in Super League and could still have offered much more to the game.

RIP Terry, you won't be forgotten

#136 The Clan

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 11:43 AM

One aspect of this tragedy just keeps coming back into my mind and I just can't shake the feeling that it had something to do with Terry's state of mind leading up his taking his own life.

I didn't know Terry well but have met him on four or five occasions where I have had the chance to speak with him as part of a group of players just having a drink. That doesnt qualify me as his friend or even suggest that I knew him well but it does allow me to form an opinion of him and what sort of person he was.

He struck me as a fairly proud man who had worked hard to build his reputation as a player to be remembered for the right reasons, someone who played the game hard and fair even though he recognised his on field disciplinary was less than good. His achievements in the game were to be admired, Grand Finals, Internationals, Challenge Cups and League Championships, he was proud of the way he lead a young Wigan team to victory over Sts when everyone had written them off a few years ago. I think his legacy as a Rugby League great meant much to him.

With all that said I return to the aspect that I can't shake,

The adulation that Kieran Cunningham received on playing his last game at Knowsley Rd, the respect and admiration for a man who's career had run parallel with his own must have been a hammer blow to Terry. How difficult must he have found it to watch, I'm sure he reflected on the contrast between Kieran and himself and it must have been hard to reconcile.

No one will ever know and it's only an opinion based on what I knew of him.

Edited by The Clan, 28 September 2010 - 11:47 AM.


#137 Viking Warrior

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 01:28 PM

two things should happen now,

1 the player who sold terry the HGH should hold his hand up, and admit he has been dealing in illegal substances......because whoever you are you are partly responsible for this tragic episode.

2 insted of just doling out bans for drug use the rfl should set up a team of highly skilled people to support and monitor each players reaction to any ban meted out which may be a contributing factor to episodes of low mood. and offer a supportive network instead of saying "any player can contact US if they need the services of the counselling team". the german fa have such a team in the planning stage after the national goalkeeper committed suicide.


these two things can't bring terry back but perhaps it may help others in the future.
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#138 ckn

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 02:37 PM

RFL: Newton was not abandoned

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#139 Red Willow

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 02:52 PM

Very sad news.

We were on holiday and the hotel printed top stories I was shocked to say the least.

I have read many comments on here about the RFL not helping players under bans. Do we know that this is the case?

There must be some personality traits with players that give 100% and wear their heart on the sleeve.

Very sad and his poor family have to live with it.

Great player who made poor choices.

#140 Viking Warrior

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 03:10 PM

QUOTE (ckn @ Sep 28 2010, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>



but they don't monitor them really do they james? reading that it is a bog standard thing that every large organisation has to adopt, and really they do nothing at the end of the day.
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