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#1 Trojan

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 10:31 AM

I was disappointed that Fev lost. But it was the way they lost that left me feeling a bit empty. It was a great game, and Fev were never behind until they lost the game. Surely another way can be found. In fact why not a replay in future - there are no further fixtures, so where's the problem? Alternatively, a suggestion from the Fev site, 10 minutes for a golden try, and then the golden point.
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Posted 29 September 2010 - 10:36 AM

Id go for next tries the winner then golden point after 10mins
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Posted 29 September 2010 - 10:43 AM

QUOTE (Trojan @ Sep 29 2010, 11:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fev were never behind until they lost the game.


I believe Halifax scored first!!!

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 10:45 AM

QUOTE (Trojan @ Sep 29 2010, 11:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was disappointed that Fev lost. But it was the way they lost that left me feeling a bit empty. It was a great game, and Fev were never behind until they lost the game. Surely another way can be found. In fact why not a replay in future - there are no further fixtures, so where's the problem? Alternatively, a suggestion from the Fev site, 10 minutes for a golden try, and then the golden point.
I'd just play a set 10 minutes, and then Golden Point after that.


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Posted 29 September 2010 - 11:25 AM

How does/would golden try work? I presume if you score a 2 or 1 pointer before the end of "Golden Try" that will eventually win the game at the end of that specific period presuming the scores aren't still drawn and a try isn't scored

What if in the extremely unlikely event you go ahead through penalties by more than 4/6 then the trailing team scores a try in that period? Do they automatically win? I know it matters little, but it's been bugging me all morning.

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#6 deluded pom?

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 11:27 AM

If the game HAS to be settled on the day then it has to be a golden try for me. Golden point just results in a drop goal competition. If the try isn't forthcoming then what about each team having to remove one player after a set period of time to create more space on the field and open up play?

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 11:32 AM

QUOTE (deluded pom? @ Sep 29 2010, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If the game HAS to be settled on the day then it has to be a golden try for me. Golden point just results in a drop goal competition. If the try isn't forthcoming then what about each team having to remove one player after a set period of time to create more space on the field and open up play?


Exactly! we broke away from that in 1895, just an empty feeling, sure its not for Halifax though.

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#8 Tex Evans Thigh

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 11:33 AM

Golden point doesnt really work. It was incredibly deflating on Sunday, although Im sure the fax fans enjoyed it.

It doesnt really even work in soccer and you can win the ball back immediately. I remember the Oliver Bierhoff goal in Euro 96 was just really disappointing as the game just ended.

Fans of timed games are used to the game being played against the clock so its a hard adjustment mentally and emotionally to go straight into a tennis style situation.

Hope it gets reviewed and maybe a replay is best bet.
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#9 Mortis

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 11:46 AM

The rules are the same for both sides. Unfortunately Fev let the lead slip and Halifax took advantage. Live with it!
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#10 Tex Evans Thigh

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 11:53 AM

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The rules are the same for both sides. Unfortunately Fev let the lead slip and Halifax took advantage. Live with it!


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On a personal level I found it strangely easy to come to terms with. It was a great day out, nothing was at stake and it was a good game. I would have been more gutted had we lost the semi. I got over the final in a couple of hours which felt strange - thats the price/or benefit of no P&R I guess.

The point is its a weird way to end a game like rugby what with it being a territory based game, but fair enough.
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#11 Aristotle

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 11:57 AM

Golden point leaves supporters of the losers very deflated - just ask any Halifax fan that was at Cas in the Challenge Cup last year!
A set period of extra time is preferable, then a replay IMO. An old fashioned attitude some might say, but fair.
And think of the gate receipts from the 100,000 plus that would turn up at Odsal to watch it...

#12 Trojan

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 12:15 PM

QUOTE (Mortis @ Sep 29 2010, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The rules are the same for both sides. Unfortunately Fev let the lead slip and Halifax took advantage. Live with it!



We know all that. But a 10 minute period of play followed by perhaps the golden point would have been more satisfactory. TBH 'Fax were coming so strong in the last twenty I reckon they'd ahve won anyway. But it would have seemed more complete somehow.
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Posted 29 September 2010 - 12:25 PM

QUOTE (deluded pom? @ Sep 29 2010, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If the game HAS to be settled on the day then it has to be a golden try for me. Golden point just results in a drop goal competition. If the try isn't forthcoming then what about each team having to remove one player after a set period of time to create more space on the field and open up play?

I think that it should be a 'golden four points' - as in the first to score a try, but if it was a try and only a try then we would see too many penalties.
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#14 Matt J

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 12:26 PM

QUOTE (Mortis @ Sep 29 2010, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The rules are the same for both sides. Unfortunately Fev let the lead slip and Halifax took advantage. Live with it!


That's not the point though is it.

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 12:47 PM

It should be the first to be 4 points clear.....and a minimum of 10 minutes played.

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 12:58 PM

I think Golden Point is a fantastic & exciting/nerve-shredding way to finish a Play-off/Grand Final & I think all RL Finals should go to golden point rather than be replayed.
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#17 Mortis

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 06:00 PM

QUOTE (Tex Evans Thigh @ Sep 29 2010, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Suppose it was only a matter of time dry.gif



The point is its a weird way to end a game like rugby what with it being a territory based game, but fair enough.


No, it's not a weird way, it's the rules. First team to go a point in front in extra times wins. Fax got into a position (the "territory") to be able to score the winning point and they did. Fev could have taken a short kick off and fought for possession of the ball and six tackles to score but they chose to kick it long and ultimately lost. There are four ways to score (OK, only three would count in golden point) and Fax chose the easiest option. Fev would have done the same if they'd had the chance.

RL could always have ten minutes each way and then golden point but where do you stop?

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 06:16 PM

The golden point is a great idea.
Asking part time players to play extra time, or even play another game is silly.

#19 Trojan

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 06:45 PM

QUOTE (Mortis @ Sep 29 2010, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, it's not a weird way, it's the rules. First team to go a point in front in extra times wins. Fax got into a position (the "territory") to be able to score the winning point and they did. Fev could have taken a short kick off and fought for possession of the ball and six tackles to score but they chose to kick it long and ultimately lost. There are four ways to score (OK, only three would count in golden point) and Fax chose the easiest option. Fev would have done the same if they'd had the chance.

RL could always have ten minutes each way and then golden point but where do you stop?



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#20 Bulletproof

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 07:02 PM

To me, there is too much riding on the coin toss in a golden point. Unless you start to take the kick from further back, there is too much of an advantage. That's not to say things don't go against the general way however.

I'd choose a next try situation. Requires a bit more skill and is less reliant on field position.




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