Jump to content


Rugby League World - Grand Finals Issue

RUGBY LEAGUE WORLD - THE GRAND FINALS ISSUE - OUT 17 OCT OR DOWNLOAD IT NOW!
Try our Fantastic 4-Issue Bundle Offer:
For just £14, a saving of 10% on the regular cover price, you’ll get:

The Grand Finals Issue (out 17 Oct) – Grand Final drama from both hemispheres plus Four Nations preview
The Four Nations Issue (out 21 Nov) – Fantastic coverage of the Four Nations tournament down under
The Golden Boot Issue (out 19 Dec) – A look back at the 2014 season plus the big reveal of the winner of the Golden Boot
The 2015 Season Preview Issue (out 23 Jan) – How will your team perform in 2015? We preview every club.


League Express

Podcast

Photo
- - - - -

The Golden Point


  • Please log in to reply
42 replies to this topic

#21 sam

sam
  • Coach
  • 7,557 posts

Posted 29 September 2010 - 08:30 PM

golden point all the way. get it over with on the day. i used to love the idea of replays purely because i like watching sport, but the occasion is never the same.
foxes or poor people?

#22 callig

callig
  • Players
  • 59 posts

Posted 29 September 2010 - 08:55 PM

Not really bothered if it's golden point or golden try as long as it is settled on the day. The players spend the whole season preparing for that one game, go through a hell of a lot in that final week and then the game itself. Its just not fair to ask them to do it again.

Also the idea that it's deflating at the end when someone does score doesn't hold for me. I've never seen 100,000+ people more deflated than after the end of AFL GF on Saturday. I only flicked on to it by accident and got watching because it was a tense second half and then couldn't believe it at the end when it just finished a draw. The whole stadium went from fever pitch to a sombre hush in a split second. The only people that were happy were the administrators licking their lips at the thought of another 100,000 sell out.

Edited by callig, 29 September 2010 - 08:56 PM.


#23 Trojan

Trojan
  • Coach
  • 15,210 posts

Posted 29 September 2010 - 09:14 PM

QUOTE (sam @ Sep 29 2010, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
golden point all the way. get it over with on the day. i used to love the idea of replays purely because i like watching sport, but the occasion is never the same.



I went to the 1982 CC replay between Hull and Widnes, it was a great night.
"Your a one trick pony Trojan" - Parksider 10th March 2013

#24 Terry Mullaney

Terry Mullaney
  • Coach
  • 1,991 posts

Posted 30 September 2010 - 08:30 AM

Will the Golden Point be in operation on Sunday?
Wedding Films For The Discerning by Picture House
Free Showreel DVD On Request

http://www.pictureho...ingfilms.co.uk/

#25 Big Picture

Big Picture
  • Coach
  • 1,164 posts

Posted 30 September 2010 - 11:51 AM

QUOTE (Trojan @ Sep 29 2010, 11:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was disappointed that Fev lost. But it was the way they lost that left me feeling a bit empty. It was a great game, and Fev were never behind until they lost the game. Surely another way can be found. In fact why not a replay in future - there are no further fixtures, so where's the problem? Alternatively, a suggestion from the Fev site, 10 minutes for a golden try, and then the golden point.

Personally I always liked the ideas of the teams playing an extra 10 minutes each way, like Australia and NZ did in the 1995 World Cup Semi-Final. It could go to sudden death after that, but going to sudden death immediately seems wrong to me. At present it's theoretically possible a team could lose in the extra period without ever getting to play the ball, though I don't know if it's happened in the NRL yet.


#26 Terry Mullaney

Terry Mullaney
  • Coach
  • 1,991 posts

Posted 30 September 2010 - 02:20 PM

QUOTE (Big Picture @ Sep 30 2010, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
At present it's theoretically possible a team could lose in the extra period without ever getting to play the ball

As happened to Rovers on Sunday. It's a nonsense and, as such, will not apply this Sunday should Saints and Wigan be level after 80 minutes. If it's good enough for the Championship then why not for SL?
Wedding Films For The Discerning by Picture House
Free Showreel DVD On Request

http://www.pictureho...ingfilms.co.uk/

#27 deluded pom?

deluded pom?
  • Coach
  • 8,580 posts

Posted 30 September 2010 - 03:46 PM

QUOTE (Trojan @ Sep 29 2010, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I went to the 1982 CC replay between Hull and Widnes, it was a great night.



Totally agree but the Wembley game was a damp squib when the final whistle went. No one knew what was happening. I think the vast majority expected extra time.

rldfsignature.jpg


#28 guess who

guess who
  • Coach
  • 4,020 posts

Posted 30 September 2010 - 04:07 PM

QUOTE (Terry Mullaney @ Sep 30 2010, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As happened to Rovers on Sunday. It's a nonsense and, as such, will not apply this Sunday should Saints and Wigan be level after 80 minutes. If it's good enough for the Championship then why not for SL?



You cannot compare the two.
When SL was founded the split between to two was sealed for ever.

#29 Matt J

Matt J
  • Moderator
  • 7,712 posts

Posted 30 September 2010 - 04:23 PM

QUOTE (guess who @ Sep 30 2010, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You cannot compare the two.
When SL was founded the split between to two was sealed for ever.


But it shouldn't.

After reading peoples views on it, I can see why a neutral would love the sudden death of the game, but for me, RL is a battle for 80 minutes, it shouldn't be decided with a sudden kick, it should be over 10 minute spells.

Cummins Out.


#30 thirteenthman

thirteenthman
  • Coach
  • 2,676 posts

Posted 30 September 2010 - 05:31 PM

QUOTE (guess who @ Sep 30 2010, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You cannot compare the two.
When SL was founded the split between to two was sealed for ever.

I'll assume you are joking about that.

On golden point, I prefer the two 10 minute periods and then sudden death. All Golden Point does is to encourage a drop-goal kick-athon, which having seen it in the NRL a couple of times this year, is not a satisfactory way to end a game.


#31 marklaspalmas

marklaspalmas
  • Coach
  • 11,516 posts

Posted 30 September 2010 - 05:34 PM

Has a final ever been decided by golden point in the UK before?

 

A Fev Blog

 

 

 

 


#32 Mortis

Mortis
  • Coach
  • 1,237 posts

Posted 30 September 2010 - 05:35 PM

QUOTE (Trojan @ Sep 29 2010, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fev won the toss and chose to kick!

I know, that's why I said they could have taken a short kick off tongue.gif
I'm not mad but I am...

Donkeys forever, forever Donkeys!

#33 marklaspalmas

marklaspalmas
  • Coach
  • 11,516 posts

Posted 01 October 2010 - 09:25 AM

QUOTE (marklaspalmas @ Sep 30 2010, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has a final ever been decided by golden point in the UK before?


No?

 

A Fev Blog

 

 

 

 


#34 hindle xiii

hindle xiii
  • Coach
  • 21,130 posts

Posted 01 October 2010 - 09:41 AM

QUOTE (marklaspalmas @ Oct 1 2010, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No?

Before last Sunday?

On Odsal Top baht 'at.


#35 hindle xiii

hindle xiii
  • Coach
  • 21,130 posts

Posted 01 October 2010 - 09:43 AM

I do think golden point just creates drop goal city, although the last 5 minutes of the regular match would be similar anyway.

Scuse my ignorance but what trophy did Leigh win a few years ago after destroying a team in extra time? That seemed quite unflattering.

On Odsal Top baht 'at.


#36 Amber Avenger

Amber Avenger
  • Coach
  • 5,778 posts

Posted 01 October 2010 - 09:54 AM

QUOTE (hindle xiii @ Oct 1 2010, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Scuse my ignorance but what trophy did Leigh win a few years ago after destroying a team in extra time? That seemed quite unflattering.


Didn't they beat Whitehaven in the Championship (presumably then NL1) final in extra time. Gutted for Haven that day - but Leigh sure went to town in extra time, fair play.
SQL Honours
Play off mini league winner - 2002. Bronze Medalist - 2003. Big Split Group Winner - 2006. Minor Stupidship - 2005, 2006. Cup Silver Medalist - 2008, 2009
CHAMPION - 2005, 2009, 2010

#37 guess who

guess who
  • Coach
  • 4,020 posts

Posted 01 October 2010 - 04:26 PM

QUOTE (thirteenthman @ Sep 30 2010, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll assume you are joking about that.


No not at all.
As i say, since the start of SL you cannot compare the two.

SL may as well have its own set of rules.


#38 urbancarrot

urbancarrot
  • Coach
  • 307 posts

Posted 01 October 2010 - 06:54 PM

As a fax fan I aint a fan of the golden point being on the wrong side of it against Cas in the cup... But nothing will take away how good it felt when Ben Black dropped that goal to win the game so if those are the rules then we play by them and get on with it... Losing teams always moan about rules or factors in games.. I sure did when we lost to Cas but if those are the rules then those are the rules..


Champions 2010 biggrin.gif

#39 goldcard

goldcard
  • Coach
  • 5,573 posts

Posted 01 October 2010 - 09:39 PM

QUOTE (Bulletproof @ Sep 29 2010, 08:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To me, there is too much riding on the coin toss in a golden point. Unless you start to take the kick from further back, there is too much of an advantage. That's not to say things don't go against the general way however.

I'd choose a next try situation. Requires a bit more skill and is less reliant on field position.

Yeah, like all of the legend's© tries for Skints, I suppose.

10 minutes each way, then next score of anykind would be better for full time players, but for semi-pro sides, next score of any kind is tense enough.
Not exactly like every game goes to it anyway.
Wires record breaking 10 match run: L 16-17 ; L 34-36 ; L 24-44 ; L 20-38 ; L 8-46; L 14-26 ; L 20-40 ; L 22-48 ; L 14-20 ; L 8-60. Thanks Jimmy.The Glamour Club. Apparently.
Captain Morgan Trophy Holders.(I still think we have the British Coal 9's trophy hidden somewhere, too...)
Ooooh, the Challenge Cup!!! Thank you Tony.....
And again!!!Posted Image
Tipping Competiton Challenged Shield Winner 2010

#40 bobbruce

bobbruce
  • Coach
  • 6,063 posts

Posted 01 October 2010 - 09:46 PM

I've always thought silver point would be better suited to RL than golden point.Then teams can go for the drop goal but the chance is there for the other side to win it with a try.