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#21 Hannibal

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 01:34 PM

QUOTE (Ant @ Oct 1 2010, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Paul Sculthorpe

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 02:50 PM

QUOTE (Ant @ Oct 1 2010, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Paul Sculthorpe

You are joking !
Looks like it wer' organised by't Pennine League

#23 Ant

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 03:18 PM

Regarding Newlove - I'll take the stats on the Official site rather than anything else...amd my memory of him is a player that simply never, ever replicated his club form on the international stage.

Sculthorpe. Meh, maybe that was one too far.

The problem is we had so many players good at club level who didnt perform at international level because they knew it didnt matter how poor they were, they would never be dropped

Edited by Ant, 01 October 2010 - 03:18 PM.


#24 Human Punk

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 03:44 PM

I'd like to give a mention to Andy Farrell. He always seemed to try too hard (probably because he was the captain), which usually meant trying to make all the tackles himself and leaving huge gaps in the defensive line as a result.
I can't fault his effort, but the performances were way below his club standatrd.

#25 Tex Evans Thigh

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 03:48 PM

You are aware that its harder to play internationally than at club level???

Players will find it difficult to look as impressive when playing the Aussies as when playing Swinton.

Paul Newlove was a superb centre and delivered internationally. He may not have ripped it up every game but who does.

His performance v Australia in '92 was top class and he continued in that vein. Look how many tries his wingers scored as well as him.

One should never trust website stats. I fondly remember someone on here arguing blue murder about jamie rooneys age 'cos it sez so on the official SL website' didnt matter that I knew the kid like. laugh.gif

Paul Sculthorpe is arguably our best international performer of the last ten years.

Now if you wanna talk ######, how about Joynty, McGuire and Shaun Long. Cunningham as well never played well v australia. Radlinski was always a bit disappointing for me.
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#26 1976PMJwires

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 08:39 PM

scully never ever let GB / England down.

WTF!!! are some people on................ total willies cut off

#27 Bob8

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 08:47 PM

QUOTE (Ant @ Oct 1 2010, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Regarding Newlove - I'll take the stats on the Official site rather than anything else...amd my memory of him is a player that simply never, ever replicated his club form on the international stage.

Sculthorpe. Meh, maybe that was one too far.

The problem is we had so many players good at club level who didnt perform at international level because they knew it didnt matter how poor they were, they would never be dropped


Too far? It was utterly barking mad.

The issue was not that they played for St Helens (do not play the oppressed martyr with not being clear), but that Australia were a better team and so it was not as easy to replicate the dominant play of club level.

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#28 Southerner

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 10:17 PM

Wilkin. He best not be selected this year. Sinfield as well of course although he played ok last year.

#29 Wendall

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 10:22 PM

Either Cunningham or Farrell. Both had great club careers.



#30 FrankDrebin

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 10:46 PM

I'll get shot down in flames for this, but I never thought Denis Betts lived up to his Wigan form when in a GB shirt. When in the Cherry and White he was a dynamic, line-breaking, try-scoring dynamo, but in a GB jersey I often thought he was ineffective and powder-puff.


#31 getdownmonkeyman

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 09:10 AM

It does make you wonder what part psychology played in the non-performance of these established players. Was it a case of previous experiences having a negative impact on their performances?

#32 Marty Funkhouser

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 09:22 AM

Sculthorpe was generally superb and always gave his all for GB....along with Morley , the best of the recent past..

Cunningham , although a magnificent SL career, was on the whole, a major disappointment at test level..

Edited by Marty Funkhouser, 02 October 2010 - 09:25 AM.


#33 Manx RL

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 09:24 AM

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#34 Trojan

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 09:51 AM

Paul Newlove was a superb centre both at club and international level. The try he scored in the opening test of the 1990 tour is an example of his power. The tries he scored against NZ the year before were examples of his pace. He made Owen Simpson look like Offiah, after he left Fev Owen was never the same player. I believe he did the same for Anthony Sullivan at Saints. In the 1992 Melbourne test he had a brilliant game at the highest level. Put it this way, I wish he was available for both Fev and England today.
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#35 hindle xiii

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 11:34 AM

Ahh yes, Lee Briers and his 1 forgettable Great Britain cap.










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#36 hindle xiii

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 11:35 AM

[steal Hanners thunder mode] Paul Sykes and Jamie Langley [/steal Hanneres thunder mode]

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#37 boxhead

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 01:08 PM

After several decades since winning a series against Australia I would suggest plenty of players.
There have been plenty of players that have been legends in the English game and from what the Aussies have seen of them they rate them as Park players.

Edited by AndyCapp, 02 October 2010 - 01:18 PM.


#38 Maximus Decimus

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 02:17 PM

I can't believe somebody mentioned Paul Sculthorpe. He was our one class player over a bad period. I remember when we lost 64-10 being embarrassed that he was on our side, because he was the one that didn't deserve it.

#39 NEIL FOX IS GOD

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 10:59 AM

could add Keith Senior Danny McGuire to the list maybe Morley but not Sculthorpe or Newlove
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