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Sky have downgraded the Grand Final this year


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#1 Wendall

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 10:03 PM

Does anyone else feel like the showpiece event in Sky's Rugby League calender has been downgraded this year?

Shunted to Sky Sports 2 by the Ryder 'rained off' Cup, meaning less viewers will watch.

###### build up show tonight, last year we had interviews and studio analysis.

Poor advertising with hardly any adverts on Sky for the game.

No 3D viewing as promised earlier in the season.





#2 the horseman

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 10:21 PM

i dont think so on this occasion but throughout the season the game has been treated with total contempt by sky . when do they finish the present deals as i would be in favour of a smaller contract with another broadcaster who gives the game more respect and new presenters and commentaters other than eddie and stevo who have had a good run but need to be changed.

#3 yanto

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 12:23 AM

Watch the difference between the presentation of the Super league GF and the NRL GF.
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#4 Jerry the Berry

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 05:27 AM

It's certainly been downgraded compared to previous years. The decision to put it on SS2 is a pretty poor, but I suppose we were never going to have much luck when clashing with a Ryder Cup event.

#5 Black Country Wire

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 07:08 AM

QUOTE (Wendall @ Oct 1 2010, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does anyone else feel like the showpiece event in Sky's Rugby League calender has been downgraded this year?

Shunted to Sky Sports 2 by the Ryder 'rained off' Cup, meaning less viewers will watch.


There's nothing like RL fans for making mountains out of molehills.

The Ryder Cup has been scheduled for this weekend for a few years now. It was the RFL's decision to bring the GF forward a week (due to the Four Nations). And frankly, a domestic competition is always going to play second fiddle to a major international event. Had they played it on the 2nd Saturday in October as previous years there would have been no competition, especially as the international football has been shifted to Friday.

The Ryder Cup would have been shown on SS1 today regardless as to whether yesterday's play had been rained off.

Are you honestly saying that people who want to watch the GF won't because it's on SS2 rather than 1???

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###### build up show tonight, last year we had interviews and studio analysis.


TBH I didn't watch the build-up programme because all the previous ones I've seen have been vacuous and lightweight. Sounds like this one was the same.

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Poor advertising with hardly any adverts on Sky for the game.


At last we have a valid critcism.

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No 3D viewing as promised earlier in the season.


No one cares about this.

Anyhow, it's not just Sky, the radio coverage has been shunted to Sports Extra because of the Ryder Cup as well.

So blame bad planning on the part of the RFL - they could have held the GF either last week or next week and had little competition, but no they decided to clash with one of the biggest international sporting events of the year.

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#6 1976PMJwires

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 07:17 AM

agree with above biggrin.gif


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#7 Cofi

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 07:35 AM

QUOTE (Black Country Wire @ Oct 2 2010, 08:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's nothing like RL fans for making mountains out of molehills.

The Ryder Cup has been scheduled for this weekend for a few years now. It was the RFL's decision to bring the GF forward a week (due to the Four Nations). And frankly, a domestic competition is always going to play second fiddle to a major international event. Had they played it on the 2nd Saturday in October as previous years there would have been no competition, especially as the international football has been shifted to Friday.

The Ryder Cup would have been shown on SS1 today regardless as to whether yesterday's play had been rained off.

Are you honestly saying that people who want to watch the GF won't because it's on SS2 rather than 1???



TBH I didn't watch the build-up programme because all the previous ones I've seen have been vacuous and lightweight. Sounds like this one was the same.



At last we have a valid critcism.



No one cares about this.

Anyhow, it's not just Sky, the radio coverage has been shunted to Sports Extra because of the Ryder Cup as well.

So blame bad planning on the part of the RFL - they could have held the GF either last week or next week and had little competition, but no they decided to clash with one of the biggest international sporting events of the year.


Good post.

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 08:36 AM

QUOTE (Jerry the Berry @ Oct 2 2010, 06:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I suppose we were never going to have much luck when clashing with a Ryder Cup event.


True enough but wouldnt play in teh golf be finished by 6pm/
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#9 Blind side johnny

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 11:32 AM



Interesting that the Today programme on R4 had an interview with Ellery Hanley yesterday morning. It may only have been around a minute long but is a major shift in perception for this programme and it was very positive about the game.


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Posted 02 October 2010 - 01:14 PM

In the past the RL Grand Final has gone head to head with Prem soccer and RU

Sky have avoided that this year which means that it will be possible to get the game on in many pubs outside the heartlands

I'd rather go up against the Ryder Cup than Prem football any day

#11 JohnM

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 01:30 PM

spot on.

I guess one question is "how closely does the RFL and SLE work with Sky on promoting the game? If the RFL and SLE have no dialogue, no input with Sky, then we should not expect much more than we get.

Edited by JohnM, 02 October 2010 - 01:30 PM.


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Posted 02 October 2010 - 01:41 PM

QUOTE (Black Country Wire @ Oct 2 2010, 08:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you honestly saying that people who want to watch the GF won't because it's on SS2 rather than 1???


Viewing figures are always higher on Sky Sports 1 simply because more people have that channel.People will have SS1 without SS2 but not many if any will have SS2 and not have SS1.Viewing figures will probably go from 5/600,000 to 300,000 just because of the switch.

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 02:20 PM

QUOTE (bobbruce @ Oct 2 2010, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Viewing figures are always higher on Sky Sports 1 simply because more people have that channel.People will have SS1 without SS2 but not many if any will have SS2 and not have SS1.Viewing figures will probably go from 5/600,000 to 300,000 just because of the switch.


The final only got 356k last year on SS1. So don't know where the 5-600k comes from. However, based on this year's figures it will probably beat last year's figure even on SS2.

#14 1976PMJwires

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 02:50 PM

I have the full package for sky sports


but I'm sure if you get SS1 you also get SS2 and the SS News Channel.

so all the talk of SS1 or SS2 is nonsense.... if i'm wrong i'm talking boloxs

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 02:54 PM

You can just purchase one sports channel so some people will not have access to SS2, and when we wanted SSN we had to purchase the news package as it wasn't included in the sports one (another swizz)

so Paul...I will leave it to you to answer your own question biggrin.gif

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#16 1976PMJwires

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 03:01 PM

QUOTE (amh @ Oct 2 2010, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You can just purchase one sports channel so some people will not have access to SS2, and when we wanted SSN we had to purchase the news package as it wasn't included in the sports one (another swizz)

so Paul...I will leave it to you to answer your own question biggrin.gif



thanks for that


just been on the sky web site


sports pack 20 = all channels

SS1 = 12
SS2 = 12


me talking boloxs.... but i'm not a tight ass

#17 MrPosh

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 03:08 PM

I've seen more coverage on SSN this week than ever before.

I was going to start a thread on how much coverage I've seen. huh.gif
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#18 Jerry the Berry

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE (Black Country Wire @ Oct 2 2010, 08:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you honestly saying that people who want to watch the GF won't because it's on SS2 rather than 1???


I know many people who wouldn't normally express anything other than a passing interest in Rugby League often comment to me (as a RL fan) that they 'caught the rugby' on SS1 and ended up watching it all. Quite a lot appear just to subscribe to SS1.

I fully agree about the Ryder Cup though. However, if the golf has finished by 6pm, surely the highlights and post match discussion could be easily put on the Red Button like Sky do for their RL analysis? wink.gif

Edited by Jerry the Berry, 02 October 2010 - 04:06 PM.


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Posted 02 October 2010 - 06:01 PM

QUOTE (Wendall @ Oct 1 2010, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No 3D viewing as promised earlier in the season.


I think we need multiple camera angles, as they do in Yawnion, and wendyball before we start moaning about 3D, and as for the coverage between the Sky & NRL coverage, Rugby League is the number 1 sport in Aus, our media treat us somewhere around Ice Hockey is treated in Morocco, Sky push soccer games because the knobheads who follow that sport NEED reminding when there is a big match coming up so they can stop beating the wife & shagging their sister

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#20 Black Country Wire

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 10:52 PM

QUOTE (bobbruce @ Oct 2 2010, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Viewing figures are always higher on Sky Sports 1 simply because more people have that channel.People will have SS1 without SS2 but not many if any will have SS2 and not have SS1.Viewing figures will probably go from 5/600,000 to 300,000 just because of the switch.


I'd have thought that more than not would have had both, although I've no official subscriber numbers to hand.

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