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#1 Maltese Falcon

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 07:15 PM


Interesting that he's made a point of mentioning this before leaving for Aus. I wouldn't have batted an eyelid if he'd simply criticised Clarke - to be expected. But also specifically mentioning Stevo as well? I wonder if the majority of players share his opinion?

I agree with what he says. Just surprised that he hasn't included Hemmings as well, given that he's the other half of the double act.


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Posted 03 October 2010 - 07:20 PM

Stevo is a better commentator than Donald was winger.
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#3 Maximus Decimus

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 07:25 PM

He's spot on. Stevo is becoming like Eddie Waring without the celebrity. He does give a bad impression of the game to new people I think. Eddie Hemmings isn't much better to be honest. There is a video on Youtube of the victory of GB in Melbourne in 1992 and if you close your eyes the commentary could be today. 'They've got to get the message out,' 'they need to try something different,' 'they need to play sensible Rugby League Football.'

His knowledge of the modern game is not what it should be and he just repeats and patronises his viewers.

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 07:29 PM

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The only problem is, who else could Sky go for?


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Posted 03 October 2010 - 07:31 PM

Another numpty who doesn't understand the English language and didn't understand what Phil Clarke actually said.

On Stevo though he's right.

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 07:34 PM

Out of; Hemmings, Stephenson, Clarke, McRae, Arthur, Studd, Proe, Offiah, Carney, O'Connor, McDermott, Powers and Wells (have I forgotten anyone?),

I would keep; Bill Arthur, Brian Carney, Barrie McDermott and John Wells.

That's it. Everyone else are between tolerable and utter useless.

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 07:39 PM

QUOTE (hindle xiii @ Oct 3 2010, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Out of; Hemmings, Stephenson, Clarke, McRae, Arthur, Studd, Proe, Offiah, Carney, O'Connor, McDermott, Powers and Wells (have I forgotten anyone?),

I would keep; Bill Arthur, Brian Carney, Barrie McDermott and John Wells.

That's it. Everyone else are between tolerable and utter useless.

Arthur can't commentate though - although he is very good at what he does. Would keep Clarke, as long as he's nowhere near any Wigan games.
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Posted 03 October 2010 - 07:40 PM

QUOTE (hindle xiii @ Oct 3 2010, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Out of; Hemmings, Stephenson, Clarke, McRae, Arthur, Studd, Proe, Offiah, Carney, O'Connor, McDermott, Powers and Wells (have I forgotten anyone?),

I would keep; Bill Arthur, Brian Carney, Barrie McDermott and John Wells.

That's it. Everyone else are between tolerable and utter useless.

Clarkey is angling for Stevo's job, being controversial and winding folk up, he'll get the gig. He's good at it.
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Posted 03 October 2010 - 07:41 PM

QUOTE (Padge @ Oct 3 2010, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Another numpty who doesn't understand the English language and didn't understand what Phil Clarke actually said.

On Stevo though he's right.


Phil Clarke is embarrassing though and not just because he can't hide his obvious bias.

He makes the most obvious and pointless comments along the lines of, 'The team that has scored the most tries this year has gone on to win 95% of the games.'

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 07:50 PM

QUOTE (MrPosh @ Oct 3 2010, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Arthur can't commentate though - although he is very good at what he does. Would keep Clarke, as long as he's nowhere near any Wigan games.

No Bill Arthur can't commentate, but he's more like rabbit in headlights when presenting.

Phil Clarke is one of the worst, I know exactly what irks me about it but I find it hard to put it into words. However I'll try.

It's as if he tries to hard too sound clever, and ends up just sounding like a fool*. Especially in the build-up when he turns his stats into some misguided scientific study.

A perfect (but contrived) example was the other year at a Grand Final when he was comparing Leeds and St Helens to the Large Hadron Collider, I mean wtf? This was a full feature with graphics and the lot, now this obviously was something sky wanted to do, but it was irrelevant and numpty-ish. He's full of misguided similies during regular build-ups. Sputing stats that apply only to the previous few minutes of play. It's very a la mode but also bears no meaning in the context of the rest of the game.

Grr.

*I can't remember what was there before fool, it wasn't an obvious swear word. It could've been t*t.

Edited by hindle xiii, 03 October 2010 - 07:55 PM.


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Posted 03 October 2010 - 07:52 PM

QUOTE (Padge @ Oct 3 2010, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Clarkey is angling for Stevo's job, being controversial and winding folk up, he'll get the gig. He's good at it.

As outlined above, his obvious bias isn't what annoys me. I actually don't notice it, perhaps cos I'm focused on whether he comes up with stuff that bugs me.

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE (Maximus Decimus @ Oct 3 2010, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Phil Clarke is embarrassing though and not just because he can't hide his obvious bias.

He makes the most obvious and pointless comments along the lines of, 'The team that has scored the most tries this year has gone on to win 95% of the games.'


Ever thought he may have been told not to hide his bias, or even been told to use it.


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Posted 03 October 2010 - 07:57 PM

QUOTE (hindle xiii @ Oct 3 2010, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As outlined above, his obvious bias isn't what annoys me. I actually don't notice it, perhaps cos I'm focused on whether he comes up with stuff that bugs me.


I dont think he is biased I think because he is Wigan through and through everyone jumps on the bandwagon.

He gives an awful lot of praise to other teams and players.

Eddie comes across as a complete Wigan hater and creams himself over Leeds and St Helens.

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 07:59 PM

QUOTE (Carnie's Cover @ Oct 3 2010, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...beloved Bradford going downhill.

Really? I've never thought of him as Bradford bias. Perhaps Yorkshire but never Bulls.
QUOTE (Carnie's Cover @ Oct 3 2010, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Eddie is my problem, he is a vile w4nker who as far as I am aware has never played the game and yet we are expected to listen to the 5hit coming from his mouth each week.
Whereas Eddie is pro-the other side of the pennines, except Leeds. I think he just has his favourite boys though; S Tomkins, D McGuire, L Briers, K Cunningham, K Eastmond, etc.

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 08:38 PM

I think Stevo and Eddie need to move on, the game has and they are stuck in the dark ages. Most people you speak to hate there commentary these days. In Australia Ray Warren has done it for years yet fans still enjoy him doing it, there is no bias towards any team, he comes out with some classics andd is helped by experts of the game, Peter Sterling, Gus Gould, Wally Lewis, Freddy Fittler, Paul Vautin and more, people respect the opinions of guys who have been there and done it,

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 08:48 PM

I think Stevo and Eddie need to move on, the game has and they are stuck in the dark ages. Most people you speak to hate there commentary these days. In Australia Ray Warren has done it for years yet fans still enjoy him doing it, there is no bias towards any team, he comes out with some classics andd is helped by experts of the game, Peter Sterling, Gus Gould, Wally Lewis, Freddy Fittler, Paul Vautin and more, people respect the opinions of guys who have been there and done it,

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 10:19 PM

Anything to take the attention off that attempt on the high ball in his last game, I suppose.
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Posted 03 October 2010 - 10:40 PM

QUOTE (Padge @ Oct 3 2010, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ever thought he may have been told not to hide his bias, or even been told to use it.

well its obviously not working if thats the case.

but you and I weve been through that and this is not our fate.
So let us so let us not talk falsely now.
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Posted 04 October 2010 - 07:47 AM

Scott Donald needs to keep his mouth shut.

If you think RL commentary is bad, compare it to ITV's Champions League (or any football for that matter, the world cup was sick enducing), It's a saliva fest and makes RL commentary seem well informed.

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 08:10 AM

QUOTE (Ackroman @ Oct 4 2010, 08:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Scott Donald needs to keep his mouth shut.

If you think RL commentary is bad, compare it to ITV's Champions League (or any football for that matter, the world cup was sick enducing), It's a saliva fest and makes RL commentary seem well informed.


Got to agree with that, ITV should be banned from doing football, Clive Tyldsley and his Man Yoo bias and incredibly crow barre din comments. You knwo he's written a list down before the game and he'll get them in no matter what and he's always looking to come out with "They think it's all over" line. Stevo and Eddie annoying, but they don't mak emy blood boil like that.





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