Would Stuart Pearce have made it as a rugby player?
Started by
Northern Sol
, Oct 03 2010 09:10 PM
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#1
Posted 03 October 2010 - 09:10 PM
Psycho was at the grand final sat next to Steve Mac and I mused for a few seconds about whether he would have made it in rugby league had he been brought up in the right area and pro soccer had somehow overlooked him.
The commitment and personal courage were there. I don't know about the rest.
The commitment and personal courage were there. I don't know about the rest.
#2
Posted 03 October 2010 - 09:14 PM
More to the point would Stevie Mac
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#3
Posted 03 October 2010 - 09:19 PM
QUOTE (Northern Sol @ Oct 3 2010, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Psycho was at the grand final sat next to Steve Mac and I mused for a few seconds about whether he would have made it in rugby league had he been brought up in the right area and pro soccer had somehow overlooked him.
The commitment and personal courage were there. I don't know about the rest.
The commitment and personal courage were there. I don't know about the rest.
I know which "Psycho" I'd have preferred for England at stand-off today
#4
Posted 03 October 2010 - 10:21 PM
QUOTE (bangersandmash @ Oct 3 2010, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know which "Psycho" I'd have preferred for England at stand-off today 
Nice line.
Don't really know how to comment on NS's hypothetical.
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#5
Posted 03 October 2010 - 11:20 PM
Not a chance.
He may have been a "psycho" in football but wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes in our game.
He may have been a "psycho" in football but wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes in our game.
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#6
Posted 04 October 2010 - 07:00 AM
QUOTE (Old Frightful @ Oct 4 2010, 12:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not a chance.
He may have been a "psycho" in football but wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes in our game.
He may have been a "psycho" in football but wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes in our game.
How can you say that.
If he had played it as a kid and been used to the game.
#7
Posted 04 October 2010 - 09:10 AM
I played football til I was 22 then a lad I played football with introduced me to RL and I didn't look back. I was a "defensive" midfielder, but soon adapted to RL and I played with a lot of lads who were also handy footballers, skills liek quick feet, pace and eye ball cordination are tranferrable, you just got then learn how to throw yourself at a 16 stone bloke. Footballers are not a bunch of soft panises, that so many genrealise about. It's a physical game and they are top class athletes, I believe there are many that would make the grade in RL given a background in the game.
#8
Posted 04 October 2010 - 09:20 AM
QUOTE (scrape_goose @ Oct 4 2010, 10:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I played football til I was 22 then a lad I played football with introduced me to RL and I didn't look back. I was a "defensive" midfielder, but soon adapted to RL and I played with a lot of lads who were also handy footballers, skills liek quick feet, pace and eye ball cordination are tranferrable, you just got then learn how to throw yourself at a 16 stone bloke. Footballers are not a bunch of soft panises, that so many genrealise about. It's a physical game and they are top class athletes, I believe there are many that would make the grade in RL given a background in the game.
Its catching the ball though that footballers struggle with though, dont they scrapegoose?
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#9
Posted 04 October 2010 - 09:40 AM
QUOTE (scrape_goose @ Oct 4 2010, 10:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I played football til I was 22 then a lad I played football with introduced me to RL and I didn't look back. I was a "defensive" midfielder, but soon adapted to RL and I played with a lot of lads who were also handy footballers, skills liek quick feet, pace and eye ball cordination are tranferrable, you just got then learn how to throw yourself at a 16 stone bloke. Footballers are not a bunch of soft panises, that so many genrealise about. It's a physical game and they are top class athletes, I believe there are many that would make the grade in RL given a background in the game.
Footy 'used to' be a physical game pre-2000 (? It certainly was in the '90s) but I watched a little of a few of the Champions League games last week & realised that professional footballers don't tackle each other anymore & if a player does tackle a player with the ball but ever-so-slightly clips their opponant's foot as well as the ball the ref blows the whistle for a free-kick. Ridiculous.
I don't know if Pearce would have been a good RL player but aggression can actually be pretty detrimental to a player in our game.
QUOTE (Rugby Fan @ Oct 4 2010, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its catching the ball though that footballers struggle with though, dont they scrapegoose? 
Surely that's England Goalies?...
I was reading in one of the papers yesterday that one of the St Helens lads was in the Everton academy with Rooney. Who was that?
Edited by HappyDave, 04 October 2010 - 09:55 AM.
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#10
Posted 04 October 2010 - 09:43 AM
QUOTE (Rugby Fan @ Oct 4 2010, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its catching the ball though that footballers struggle with though, dont they scrapegoose? 
David Seamen could catch!
#11
Posted 04 October 2010 - 09:46 AM
QUOTE (HappyDave @ Oct 4 2010, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Footy 'used to' be a physical game pre-2000 (? It certainly was in the '90s) but I watched a little of a few of the Champions League games last week & realised that professional footballers don't tackle each other anymore & if a player does tackle a player with the ball but ever-so-slightly clips their opponant's foot as well as the ball the ref blows the whistle for a free-kick. Ridiculous.
I don't know if Pearce would have been a good RL player but aggression can actually be pretty detrimental to a player in our game.
I don't know if Pearce would have been a good RL player but aggression can actually be pretty detrimental to a player in our game.
Well it was '92 when I started playing RL and more or less gave up football. yeah European games is a different matter, they'll putting skirts on them next. The English game is all about pace and physical side of the game, or used to be. And it's not that they are soft these footballers that throw themselves around at the slightest touch, they are bending the rules to gain advantage.
#12
Posted 04 October 2010 - 10:05 AM
I can't remember when I watched a UK top level footy match (Barcleys Premiership & nPower Championship?), or any other UK footy in a long long time but watching a few football world cup games & the UCL games I realise some of the footwork & skill is fantastic (most of the footy WC was pretty darn dull though) but as an RL fan the pace doesn't impress me that much apart from the occasional break up-field.
Surely diving is cheating rather than just 'gaining an advantage'? I'd call that cheating.
Surely diving is cheating rather than just 'gaining an advantage'? I'd call that cheating.
Edited by HappyDave, 04 October 2010 - 10:11 AM.
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#13
Posted 04 October 2010 - 10:18 AM
QUOTE (HappyDave @ Oct 4 2010, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can't remember when I watched a UK top level footy match (Barcleys Premiership & nPower Championship?), or any other UK footy in a long long time but watching a few football world cup games & the UCL games I realise some of the footwork & skill is fantastic (most of the footy WC was pretty darn dull though) but as an RL fan the pace doesn't impress me that much apart from the occasional break up-field.
Surely diving is cheating rather than just 'gaining an advantage'? I'd call that cheating.
Surely diving is cheating rather than just 'gaining an advantage'? I'd call that cheating.
I agree it is cheating but with all that is at stake if a player can get away with it he will, it's the fault of the authorities for not clamping down on it.
#14
Posted 04 October 2010 - 11:15 AM
I thought it was the job of refs to penalise cheating in any sport?...
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#15
Posted 04 October 2010 - 12:25 PM
QUOTE (HappyDave @ Oct 4 2010, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought it was the job of refs to penalise cheating in any sport?...
Yes and the ruling bodies to make sure that the refs uphold the laws corectly, as I said the authorities.
#16
Posted 04 October 2010 - 12:53 PM
QUOTE (HappyDave @ Oct 4 2010, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was reading in one of the papers yesterday that one of the St Helens lads was in the Everton academy with Rooney. Who was that?
Different to this, but Aaron Ramsey was on St. Helens books when he was younger.
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#17
Posted 04 October 2010 - 06:26 PM
QUOTE (HappyDave @ Oct 4 2010, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was reading in one of the papers yesterday that one of the St Helens lads was in the Everton academy with Rooney. Who was that?
Matty Smith?
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#18
Posted 04 October 2010 - 07:05 PM
I think its impossible to say at this stage. Two vastly different games, but I'd like to think Pearce could have made it, he never backed down.
#19
Posted 04 October 2010 - 07:22 PM
You can't make a decision on whether a football would have made it at RL, simply based on aggression. Ryan Giggs hardly an aggressive footballer. He was, however, a handy RL player on his youth.
#20
Posted 05 October 2010 - 12:23 PM
QUOTE (scrape_goose @ Oct 4 2010, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
David Seamen could catch!
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