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[Bleep1673]

All the pieces about Newspapers cutting back on their RL coverage. Which have been written by Journalists who are desperately trying not too very hard to keep their lucrative 3-day a week jobs, and trying to persuade us to pester the Editors to keep them employed

Most people find out information about their club from the websites or other internet sources, I can't remember the last time I read a news article about a non-superleague club, other than on the internet.

No-one buys newspapers these days to read about Rugby League, we don't care if column space is declining for anything other than Soccer (see below), all people buy newspaper for these days is in-depth news reporting, or to see some bird get her #### out on page 3.

Christopher Irvine on Page 6 of RLW even suggests Horse Racing get better coverage, it doesn't. Anyone who follows the nags barely casts a glimpse at the racing pages of most national newspapers, because the scant information they supply is not enough to put a decent bet on, they buy the Racing Post (I know I do when I go racing, or the website).

The people I work with buy newspapers just for the Crossword & Suduko. I find Telegraph and Times Sports supplements scattered around the rest rooms, unread.

Do we need Rugby League journalists for news papers anymore? Most of us knows where to find information these days, specialist publications, like League Express & Rugby League World. Stuff the newspapers, most people get their general news from the internet, or TV, for relatively free, so why should we pay hard cash for a piece of paper?

(From Above): I have digital TV, as most people do, and can get news from the North-west via Ceefax. Now that 8 clubs are in the Premiership, it seems that every club must have a story on the Local Sports bit (P390), to the detriment of every other sport. Even Union. This is what we have to face. There are no clubs in Yorkshire in the Premiership, so League gets a decent shout in the regional papers there.

Edited by Bleep1673, 04 October 2010 - 06:18 PM.

[Bleep1673]

As the moderaters are Journos themselves, this may be my last post as I am about to be banned.

So much for Habla Libre

[Padge]

You make an interesting point, but the issue is making people who are not rormally aware of what is going on in RL aware of what is going on. We know wherre to get RL news from but the web doesn't work like a newspaper, you can have the biggest story with the biggest headlines on your web page but you'll struggle to get a casual visitor to take notice of it. In a paper if there is a full page of rugby league even the casual reader will at least read the headline.

[Chris Irvine]

All the pieces about Newspapers cutting back on their RL coverage. Which have been written by Journalists who are desperately trying not too very hard to keep their lucrative 3-day a week jobs, and trying to persuade us to pester the Editors to keep them employed

Most people find out information about their club from the websites or other internet sources, I can't remember the last time I read a news article about a non-superleague club, other than on the internet.

No-one buys newspapers these days to read about Rugby League, we don't care if column space is declining for anything other than Soccer (see below), all people buy newspaper for these days is in-depth news reporting, or to see some bird get her #### out on page 3.

Christopher Irvine on Page 6 of RLW even suggests Horse Racing get better coverage, it doesn't. Anyone who follows the nags barely casts a glimpse at the racing pages of most national newspapers, because the scant information they supply is not enough to put a decent bet on, they buy the Racing Post (I know I do when I go racing, or the website).

The people I work with buy newspapers just for the Crossword & Suduko. I find Telegraph and Times Sports supplements scattered around the rest rooms, unread.

Do we need Rugby League journalists for news papers anymore? Most of us knows where to find information these days, specialist publications, like League Express & Rugby League World. Stuff the newspapers, most people get their general news from the internet, or TV, for relatively free, so why should we pay hard cash for a piece of paper?

(From Above): I have digital TV, as most people do, and can get news from the North-west via Ceefax. Now that 8 clubs are in the Premiership, it seems that every club must have a story on the Local Sports bit (P390), to the detriment of every other sport. Even Union. This is what we have to face. There are no clubs in Yorkshire in the Premiership, so League gets a decent shout in the regional papers there.

I don't even mention horse racing in the article, which you can't have read - or at least read properly.

As for "lucrative 3 day a week jobs" you really don't have a clue, do you ?

As for the 10 million national newspapers bought every day in this country, I suppose that's a figment of my imagination, too ?

PS: The Times doesn't have a sports pullout. It has a football pullout on a Monday and a dedicated sports section on a Saturday. But, hey, why let facts get in the way of a good rant ...

[Blind side johnny]

I don't even mention horse racing in the article, which you can't have read - or at least read properly.

As for "lucrative 3 day a week jobs" you really don't have a clue, do you ?

As for the 10 million national newspapers bought every day in this country, I suppose that's a figment of my imagination, too ?

PS: The Times doesn't have a sports pullout. It has a football pullout on a Monday and a dedicated sports section on a Saturday. But, hey, why let facts get in the way of a good rant ...

Fair points.

Could you also tell us what is the rate of decline in sales of the individual papers over the past five years. I know that won't make happy reading for anyone who is supportive of the inky press.

(Written by one who buys a newspaper 7 days a week, but often wonders why.)

[Blind side johnny]

I don't even mention horse racing in the article, which you can't have read - or at least read properly.

As for "lucrative 3 day a week jobs" you really don't have a clue, do you ?

As for the 10 million national newspapers bought every day in this country, I suppose that's a figment of my imagination, too ?

PS: The Times doesn't have a sports pullout. It has a football pullout on a Monday and a dedicated sports section on a Saturday. But, hey, why let facts get in the way of a good rant ...

Fair points.

Could you also tell us what is the rate of decline in sales of the individual papers over the past five years. I know that won't make happy reading for anyone who is supportive of the inky press.

(Written by one who buys a newspaper 7 days a week, but often wonders why.)

[marklaspalmas]

As the moderaters are Journos themselves, this may be my last post as I am about to be banned.

So much for Habla Libre

Libertad de Expresión.

I agree with your general point though it seems a little OTT. In 2010, newspapers still do have a role to play I feel. I do think that pressman can occassionally overexaggerate their own importance though.

Not read the original article. Looking forward to RLW arriving soon, despite the cover (me no likey)

[sam]

i've just received a subscription for my birthday. hopefully it'll get to norway!

is mr. irvine now writing for rlw? will 'mr. happy' be the next one on the payroll?

[Amber Avenger]

will 'mr. happy' be the next one on the payroll?

Doesn't he work for the "other paper"?

[sam]

Doesn't he work for the "other paper"?

haven't a clue to be honest.

[Bleep1673]

I don't even mention horse racing in the article, which you can't have read - or at least read properly.

Page 8, column 1, line 21, numpty. I assume you have read your ghost-written article?

As for "lucrative 3 day a week jobs" you really don't have a clue, do you ?

No. Do enlighten us on what you do when not being paid to watch Rugby League and trawl the internet for possible stories.

As for the 10 million national newspapers bought every day in this country, I suppose that's a figment of my imagination, too ?

Spread over a declining readership over 8 national and countless regional newspapers, including I suppose Welsh, Scottish, Irish, and foreign language regional daily press like the Yorkshire Post, Liverpool Echo, Bristol, Birmingham etc?

PS: The Times doesn't have a sports pullout. It has a football pullout on a Monday and a dedicated sports section on a Saturday. But, hey, why let facts get in the way of a good rant ...

OK, in the effort of fairness, I'll give you that one, I meant "The Guardian".

Edited by Bleep1673, 04 October 2010 - 07:40 PM.

[sam]

OK, in the effort of fairness, I'll give you that one, I meant "The Guardian".

on twitter, you're lovingly referred to as a 'twonk'!

[Bleep1673]

Me? Personally? Or as a guardian reader?

[amh]

on twitter, you're lovingly referred to as a 'twonk'!

He does seem a tad twitchy, maybe the OP touched a raw nerve or two - one would think these journos wouldn't rise so easily, be a bit more thick skinned, and be able to answer these sorts of questions with reasoned argument and a little wit

[ArmchairRhino]

on twitter, you're lovingly referred to as a 'twonk'!

Cyber bullying, that

[sam]

Me? Personally? Or as a guardian reader?

yep, you. no names though.

[Bleep1673]

yep, you. no names though.

Excellent, I'm not erudite enough to twitter

Oh, & I couldn't give one about Titter either, find me on facebook if you can. (yes I am on there because my step-daughter pursueded me to register. It's rubbish too

[Bleep1673]

Cyber bullying, that

It's only bullying if you know, or care about it.

[hindle xiii]

I don't even mention horse racing in the article, which you can't have read - or at least read properly.

I dunno who this benefits but the following is from RLW

Pick up many papers now and page after page of football is leavened by cricket, racing, rugby union but often little else. ...

[ckn]

As the moderaters are Journos themselves, this may be my last post as I am about to be banned.

So much for Habla Libre

I resent that comment, I work for a living...

Seriously though, please be nice. We're happy for constructive and even robust commentary on the condition that it does not get mean spirited. That goes for everyone who has posted on this thread.

Chris gets a fair amount of stick on here at times and has actually come on to respond. I wouldn't. Same as the players, coaches and refs who get stick but still come on to read. Must be a streak of masochism that goes through everyone paid to work in rugby league