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[steef]

http://news.bbc.co.u..._kr/9085735.stm

Anyone know if this is a decent signing or just one less oppertunity for a young English player?

[The Best The Beautiful The Only]

Not really, he's rubbish.

[deluded pom?]

So how many Aussies/Kiwis at CP now and how many are off quota?

[Old Frightful]

So how many Aussies/Kiwis at CP now and how many are off quota?

Hull KR Squad 2011....(Shamelessly pinched from elsewhere!)

Fullbacks
Shaun Briscoe (2011)
Louis Sherrife (2012)

Wingers
Peter Fox (2012)
Liam Colbon (2011)

Centre's
Jake Webster (2012)
Kris Welham (2012)
Mike Ratu (2011)
Ben Cockayne (2011)
Craig Hall (2012)

Halfbacks
Blake Green (2012)
Michael Dobson (2012)

Props
Michael Vella (2011)
Liam Watts (2012)
Rhys Lovegrove (2012)
Joel Clinton (2012)
Scott Wheldon (2012)

Hookers
Ben Fisher (2011)
Josh Hodgson (2011)

2nd Row
Jason Netherton (2011)
Ben Galea (2011)
Clint Newton (2013)
Willie Mason (2012)
Matt Cook (2011)
Jordan Cox (2012)
Scott Taylor (2011)

Loose
Scott Murrell (2012)
Dave Peterson (2011)

_________________________________________________________

In's

Blake Green
Willie Mason (North Queensland Cowboys) (Subject to Visa)
Craig Hall (Hull FC)

Out's

Chev Walker (Bradford Bulls)
Paul Cooke (Released)
David Mills (Released)
Chaz I'Anson (Widnes)
Frankie Mariano (Wakefield)

Out of Contract

Rich Beaumont (OOC)
Sam Latus (OOC)
Scott Spaven (OOC)
__________________________________________________________

FEDERATION

(1) Ben Cockayne
(2) Mike Ratu
(3) Matt Cook
(4) Craig Hall
(5) Shaun Briscoe
(6) Peter Fox
(7) Ben Fisher
( Jason Netherton
(9) Josh Hodgson
(10) Liam Colbon
(11) Scott Wheldon
(12) Ben Galea
(13) Clint Newton
(14) Michael Vella

HOMEGROWN/U21

(1) Kris Welham
(2) Jordan Cox
(3) Liam Watts
(4) Louis Sheriffe
(5) Scott Taylor
(6) Dave Peterson
(7) Rhys Lovegrove
( Scott Murrell

OVERSEAS QUOTA PLAYERS

(1) Willie Mason (Subject to Visa)
(2) Michael Dobson
(3) Jake Webster
(4) Joel Clinton
(5) Blake Green (2012)

Quota rules for 2011

2011
At least 8 home grown players.
No more than 5 quota players.
No more than 5 overseas trained players inc quota players.
Rest of squad to be from players trained within same federation.

KEY
Home grown players - any player still under 21 and/or has completed 3 years service with the same clubs academy set up.

Same federation - any player still under 21 and/or has completed 3 years service with other clubs academy set ups within UK (for UK SL clubs) or France (for Catalans etc)

Overseas quota players - as per current rules i.e. Anyone unable to prove origins within EU or Kolpak countries.

[TheObserver]

FEDERATION

(7) Ben Fisher
(12) Ben Galea
(13) Clint Newton
(14) Michael Vella

Does an EU passport allowed them to be counted them as Federation trained?

OVERSEAS QUOTA PLAYERS

(1) Willie Mason (Subject to Visa)
(2) Michael Dobson
(3) Jake Webster
(4) Joel Clinton
(5) Blake Green (2012)

At least 8 home grown players.
No more than 5 quota players.
No more than 5 overseas trained players inc quota players.
Rest of squad to be from players trained within same federation.

Overseas quota players - as per current rules i.e. Anyone unable to prove origins within EU or Kolpak countries.

IIRC Webster had a Greek parent or grandparent - did he obtain a Greek passport, and local Federation status?
Wouldn't Mason be a Kolpak player, by having a Tongan passport?

IMO within the overseas quota of 5, only two places should be there for non EU/Kolpak passport holders. That would encourage teams to recruit players that can strengthen the emerging international teams.

[dallymessenger]

to show how bad a signing is blake green was originally a halfback but with the bulldogs hes been playing in the forward

2nd row.

awful move

hell do a job, one that a local could do.

[East Coast Tiger]

He was supposedly going to Crusaders last year as a hooker/half but the story was his visa fell through. Obviously fixed that up. Seems like an ordinary signing. But once again, you never know.

[CoogeeLoiner]

My mate, who has a season ricket at the Buldogs rates him and reckons he's had a pretty good season.

To say he's a half back/5/8 these days is stretching a bit though...he's more of a utility player.

He started off being very highly rated at Parramatta, and sort of went downhill in the last 3 years or so!

I suppose that's what signing for the Sharks does to you.......

[Emosi Koloto]

It's crazy how English RL fans get so excited about signing fringe NRL players, surely looking to develop the next Sam Tompkins or Kyle Eastmond is what they should be striving for and not blocking that pathway by signing average imports.

[Old Frightful]

Does an EU passport allowed them to be counted them as Federation trained?

I'm not sure, like I said, I pinched it from elsewhere.

Unless I'm mistaken, 10 players in that squad were born on the other side of the World.

Obviously, this will have been sanctioned by the RFL but I wouldn't mind seeing how each one of the 5 not on the quota has managed to get off it.

I'm assuming European passports and federation trained will be involved somewhere.

[clement]

hasnt played much over there has he.

[Doolittle]

Welcome to East Hull Blake. If you are only half as good as the last NRL reject half back we signed, you will do for me.

[GazCoops]

Does an EU passport allowed them to be counted them as Federation trained?

Only if they had been at the club pre Feb 2008 when the current rules came into place, with the bulk of KR's squad been put together in the summer of 07, this is why so many of KR's players have applied to become fed trained.

Im supprised that Webster hasn't become fed trained yet, but Mason can't become fed trained for the reasons I stated above, regardless of what his agent says.

[deluded pom?]

I believe Vella and Galea are on EU passports due to Maltese heritage.

[hindle xiii]

It's crazy how English RL fans get so excited about signing fringe NRL players

No-one is excited about this signing.

[Old Frightful]

Welcome to East Hull Blake. If you are only half as good as the last NRL reject half back we signed, you will do for me.

Can't argue with that.

Of course, Kath Hetherington and James Rule had a look at Dobson but decided he wasn't worth the money.

Maybe he was asking for a lot, and maybe he's one of the main reasons for Hull KR's debt, but I wish he played for us.

[Brigg Rover]

It's crazy how English RL fans get so excited about signing fringe NRL players, surely looking to develop the next Sam Tompkins or Kyle Eastmond is what they should be striving for and not blocking that pathway by signing average imports.

Who is getting excited?

[goldcoaster]

10 foreigners in Hull KR squad next year. four of them were only reserve graders in the NRL (Green, Dobson, Fisher and Lovegrove).

Good to see that clubs like Hull KR and Wakefield are promoting British youth..........I hope they come last and 2nd last next year.

[The Future is League]

10 foreigners in Hull KR squad next year. four of them were only reserve graders in the NRL (Green, Dobson, Fisher and Lovegrove).

Good to see that clubs like Hull KR and Wakefield are promoting British youth..........I hope they come last and 2nd last next year.

so do i. for so called heartland clubs they show little interest in promoting British talent.

[The Future is League]

http://news.bbc.co.u..._kr/9085735.stm

Anyone know if this is a decent signing or just one less oppertunity for a young English player?

another lost opportunity i would suggest. Hull KR and justin morgan have no real interest in promoting British talent. they would say they do as would their fans, but signing fringe NRL players shows to me they don't.