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[Wendall]

Does anyone think RL is gonna fare worst than other sports as a result of these Tories massive spending cuts?

Or will we as a value for money game survive well unlike Soccer who's prices are much higher?

RL has traditionally been played in some of the pooerest areas of the country and RL fans don't have the incomes of other codes followers generally so i think we may suffer a lot. I think certain towns in RL areas such as Barrow are gonna suffer badly, what else has it got but shipbuilding and chip shops?

Thoughts?

[Methven Hornet]

"All of this is being done so we can limit four year reductions to 15% in core programmes like our national museums, the frontline funding provided to our arts and Sport England's Whole Sport plans," the Chancellor said.

Now the devil is in the detail, and that doesn't mean that what RL is getting from Sport England will automatically be reduced by 15% over 4 years - could be more, could be less.

The wider impact depends on whether the spending cuts trigger another recession and where the effects of any economic downturn are felt. Will the north feel the brunt (maybe we should have expanded down south further and faster)?

[West Country Eagle]

Well, there was a report in the FT the other day (Tony Hannan tweeted a link to it) that said that the ConDems were likely not to suport the 2013 RLWC financially - though they have said they will support the 2015 RUWC.

IMHO that's just the start. For all their failings the last government were very supportive of RL.

[deluded pom?]

Methinks a revolution is what's needed.

[Mumby Magic]

Maybe on new ground development, depending on where monies were or could have come from?

[Segovia Carpet]

Does anyone think RL is gonna fare worst than other sports as a result of these Tories massive spending cuts?



Thoughts?

So why are you blaming the Tories for the cuts. The equation is simple. If the UK doesnt cut then we go bust. All your savings disappear for good and a new currency commences. What would you prefer? You will find that most clubs will survive and prosper in these lean times. Its all a reality check.

[bowes]

"All of this is being done so we can limit four year reductions to 15% in core programmes like our national museums, the frontline funding provided to our arts and Sport England's Whole Sport plans," the Chancellor said.

Now the devil is in the detail, and that doesn't mean that what RL is getting from Sport England will automatically be reduced by 15% over 4 years - could be more, could be less.

The wider impact depends on whether the spending cuts trigger another recession and where the effects of any economic downturn are felt. Will the north feel the brunt (maybe we should have expanded down south further and faster)?

Plus if the policy of wholesale moving unemployed northerners down south may harm this more. Having said that given the cuts in housing benefit I'm not sure who could afford to live in the South East unemployed unless the housing prices fall to a more rational level (which I suppose they'll have to if noone can afford to rent at the massively inflated prices)

Edited by bowes, 20 October 2010 - 05:57 PM.

[THE RED ROOSTER]

Three factors at work here.
Firstly, Rugby League is a value sport financially in comparison with other sporting attractions. I can compare my £ 99 Season Ticket for Quins RL in 2011 favourably with anything else here in the South East. (i.e. 5 x Middlesex T20 games at Lords for example)
Secondly, the game is not overexposed - Unlike Union where families have the option of £ 10 per month to watch 50% of the Arriva Premiership games each week by adding ESPN to their SKY subs or paying championship soccer prices x 3 or 4 per game. Check out Unions declining attendances this season as proof. The demographics loving quoted on here about ABC 1 audiences being able to afford satellite tV works against sports that have an ABC 1 audience as opposed to the poorer C2 and D's.
Thirdly, it depends how well your team is doing - recession or no recession gates at Quins, Bradford and Wakefield would have declined as a result of the on field performances in the last two years.

[Derwent]

Well, there was a report in the FT the other day (Tony Hannan tweeted a link to it) that said that the ConDems were likely not to suport the 2013 RLWC financially - though they have said they will support the 2015 RUWC.

I don't think there's anything sinister in that. Its just a simple question of economics. The RLWC is unlikely to contribute very much to the UK economy in terms of tourists, where as the RUWC probably will unfortunately.

[barrowraiderskid]

Does anyone think RL is gonna fare worst than other sports as a result of these Tories massive spending cuts?

Or will we as a value for money game survive well unlike Soccer who's prices are much higher?

RL has traditionally been played in some of the pooerest areas of the country and RL fans don't have the incomes of other codes followers generally so i think we may suffer a lot. I think certain towns in RL areas such as Barrow are gonna suffer badly, what else has it got but shipbuilding and chip shops?

Thoughts?

We won't suffer to badly we've got a loyal support of about 1300 who'd turn upto all the games at home no matter what the prices are. Season tickets are the same for this year so our support won't go down to much.
To be honest we should be focusing on boosting our attendances not focusing on not decreasing them.


We'd probably treble attendances tho if there was P&R

Edited by barrowraiderskid, 20 October 2010 - 09:44 PM.

[Methven Hornet]

Well, there was a report in the FT the other day (Tony Hannan tweeted a link to it) that said that the ConDems were likely not to suport the 2013 RLWC financially - though they have said they will support the 2015 RUWC.

IMHO that's just the start. For all their failings the last government were very supportive of RL.

If true then that is a disgrace.

[Cherry and White]

if you want that FT report

as tony h, would say,

"To read that last link without registering - do google search for 'rugby league cash' & follow link from top search result"

[West Country Eagle]

I don't think there's anything sinister in that. Its just a simple question of economics. The RLWC is unlikely to contribute very much to the UK economy in terms of tourists, where as the RUWC probably will unfortunately.

Yes, but:

1. The previous government pledged to support it as part of the UK's "golden decade of sport"
2. The numbers being talking about are miniscule in comparison to what most major sporting events cost

and

3. The RLWC is likely to boost the economy of areas of the country that need it the most - i.e the north.

It's a purely political issue for mine - the Tories (and Lib Dems) have very few seats in RL areas, so why bother being supportive?

[shrek]

Plus if the policy of wholesale moving unemployed northerners down south may harm this more. Having said that given the cuts in housing benefit I'm not sure who could afford to live in the South East unemployed unless the housing prices fall to a more rational level (which I suppose they'll have to if noone can afford to rent at the massively inflated prices)

Think of the potential expansion benefits though!

[dallymessenger]

Well, there was a report in the FT the other day (Tony Hannan tweeted a link to it) that said that the ConDems were likely not to suport the 2013 RLWC financially - though they have said they will support the 2015 RUWC.

IMHO that's just the start. For all their failings the last government were very supportive of RL.

pathetic

they support the WC that makes a lot of money and not the one that doesnt.

someone should remind them the role of government is not to provide funds to those that dont need it.

still hardly surprising a right wing government would support a right wing sport.

[The Future is League]

Well, there was a report in the FT the other day (Tony Hannan tweeted a link to it) that said that the ConDems were likely not to suport the 2013 RLWC financially - though they have said they will support the 2015 RUWC.

IMHO that's just the start. For all their failings the last government were very supportive of RL.

another classic case of union having friends in high places. lets not forget that the RBS is 81% owed by the British taxpayer, and who sponsors the 6 nations?

[JohnM]

good grief! talk about building a house of cards on shifting sands !


Expect the loss of jobs in the public sector to generate more disposable income for some as early retirement pensions, severance pay etc to kick in.

[Derwent]

It's a purely political issue for mine - the Tories (and Lib Dems) have very few seats in RL areas, so why bother being supportive?

I'm sorry but that's just pure paranoia.

There are barely enough RL fans in this country to form a single average sized constituency, never mind influence the outcome of multi-constituencies across the north of England.

[Trojan]

pathetic

they support the WC that makes a lot of money and not the one that doesnt.

someone should remind them the role of government is not to provide funds to those that dont need it.

still hardly surprising a right wing government would support a right wing sport.

These are the Tories for god's sake. That is their reason for existence.
"For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath."
Matthew 25:29

[bowes]

Think of the potential expansion benefits though!

Yeah let's move the population of Castleford lock, stock and barrel into Milton Keynes and move the Tigers there! If only we had a RL expansionist version of Stalin running the country!