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[Optimus]

S. Tompkins

Briscoe
Clubb
Widdop
Goulding/Hall

Brown
Robinson

Graham
Roby
Fielden
Burgess
Morley
O'Loughlin

Lunt
Crabtree
Westwood
Carvell/Harrison

[roughyedspud]

keep the faith??


how about you keep up with the lastest injury lists first

[hindle xiii]

[pedant mode] Ellis not Morley, right? [/pedant mode]

[Optimus]

That would be keeping the faith. Def meant Ellis, was day dreaming.

[Wolford6]

Concentrate on plenty of bash and massed defence. Scare them with spirited halfbacks who run unpredictable lines.


Clubb ... if nothing else it's a long way round him or through him

Cudjoe
Briscoe
O'Loughlin .... to stiffen the defence early doors, can do a spell at hooker or halfback
Goulding

S. Tompkins} ..... if you have got flair, use it to maximum potential
Robinson }

Graham
Roby
Fielden
Westwood
Ellis
Burgess ... make him captain, he'll have a blinder

J Tomkins ... under specific orders to niggle the Aussie back row forwards and halfbacks
Crabtree
Carvell
Atkins .... he can be really effective against a tired defence.

[RugbyLeagueGeek]

Concentrate on plenty of bash and massed defence. Scare them with spirited halfbacks who run unpredictable lines.
S. Tompkins} ..... if you have got flair, use it to maximum potential
Robinson }

At the moment, Sam Tompkins looks to have far more potential being used as the runner at the end of an attacking move rather than the playmaker starting it. He was far more involved and far more threatening after being moved to fullback.

[jackknife]

S. Tompkins
Hall (if fit)
Briscoe
Widdop
Goulding

Brown
Robinson

Graham
Roby
Fielden
Burgess
Ellis
O'Loughlin

Lunt
Crabtree
Westwood
J Tompkins

[Scubby]

Here's my go:

1. S.Tomkins
2. D.Goulding
3. T.Briscoe
4. G.Widdop
5. R.Hall
6. S.O'Loughlin
7. L.Robinson
8. J.Graham
9. S.Lunt
10. S.Fielden
11. G.Ellis
12. B.Westwood
13. S Bugess

14. J.Roby
15. E.Crabtree
16. D Griffin
17. L Cudjoe

Roby has to be injected into the game at the 20 minute mark - same with Crabtree. Briscoe can do damage in the centres, it is a shame Hull don't realise this and play him there. O'Loughlin to provide a solid platform at 6 and allows Tomkins to play his own running game from FB.

Edited by Scubby, 24 October 2010 - 04:02 PM.

[Derwent]

Goulding

Briscoe
Clubb
Ellis
Hall

Tomkins
Robinson

Graham
Lunt
Fielden
Burgess
Westwood
O'Loughlin

Subs
Roby
Crabtree
Harrison
Carvell

[Keith T]

Tompkins. S

Goulding
Briscoe
Widdop
Hall

Brown
Robinson

Graham
Lunt
Fielden
Ellis
Burgess
O'Loughlin

Roby
Crabtree
Westwood
Harrison / Carvell

[HappyDave]

Ellis at Centre & Widdop at HB? When was the last time Ellis play Centre? He's a Second Row now. I guess Widdop can play HB, as I think his try came from that position, but I think he should be the second choice at FB to Sam Tomkins. I think if the England coaching staff change their tactics I think Brown & Robinson will work well as HBs this 4N.

I'd say Tom Briscoe is one of the best Wings in SL so I think he should be kept on the Wing.

Edited by HappyDave, 24 October 2010 - 10:10 PM.

[Human Punk]

Tomkins S
Briscoe
Clubb
Widdop/Hall
Goulding

Brown
Robinson

Graham
Lunt
Fielden
Burgess
Ellis
O'Loughlin

Subs
Roby
Crabtree
Westwood
Tomkins J

While Brown hasn't been brilliant at 6, the club combination seemed to work the best against the Kiwis. Widdop wasn't too bad at centre, but he's short of experience so maybe Hall could do a job there instead - I'm prepared to be laughed at for that one.
Roby needs to come off the bench when there's a bit more room to do his thing. Apart from that, minimal changes from the team that finished on Saturday.
I still fear a thrashing's on the cards though.

[Derwent]

I think if the England coaching staff change their tactics I think Brown & Robinson will work well as HBs this 4N.

Ask yourself why, if that combination works, did Huddersfield see the need to go and buy Danny Brough ?

[Southerner]

Very worried about this game. Shenton injured when I thought he was very good in attack doesn't help. It's a bit desperate when suggesting widdop to take his place in the centres. I would stick with atkins, for whatever reason there is a lot of negativity surrounding this guy on here but I think hes a big threat in attack. Ok his defense wasn't great but that goes for the whole team - 31 missed tackles! I think the critism is unfair, however I am biased because I rate him highly. Brown clearly not good enough and don't think Robinson should start so would play roby there with Sam Tomkins.

[R0009]

My team would be: -

1. S.Tomkins
2. D.Goulding
3. T.Briscoe
4. G.Widdop
5. R.Hall
6. S.O'Loughlin
7. L.Robinson
8. J.Graham
9. S.Lunt
10. S.Fielden
11. G.Ellis
12. B.Westwood
13. S Bugess

14. J.Roby
15. E.Crabtree
16. G Carvell
17. B Harrison

D Griffin is not up to standards. Brown was also very poor and easy for the deffence to read his plays. Good in super league but maybe not ready for the international step up? B Westwood for me was our biggest impact when he came off the bench...

[Dave T]

My team would be: -

1. S.Tomkins
2. D.Goulding
3. T.Briscoe
4. G.Widdop
5. R.Hall
6. S.O'Loughlin
7. L.Robinson
8. J.Graham
9. S.Lunt
10. S.Fielden
11. G.Ellis
12. B.Westwood
13. S Bugess

14. J.Roby
15. E.Crabtree
16. G Carvell
17. B Harrison

D Griffin is not up to standards. Brown was also very poor and easy for the deffence to read his plays. Good in super league but maybe not ready for the international step up? B Westwood for me was our biggest impact when he came off the bench...

I'd be happy enough with that, although I would probably give Atkins another chance if he is fit.

[R0009]

Yea i agree with you there.. I think they made a mistake not taking Gleeson to the four nations as he finished the season very strong. We will see tho. The aussies are always a hard test..

[Ant]

Anyone who thinks a loose forward at stand off would be the better move clearly has had their brain removed and replaced with David "loose forwards in every position" Waite.

Been there, done that and with much, much better loose forwards than O'Loughlin...

Brown made 22 tackles on Saturday, more than some of the forwards and Tomkins about 8. Maybe, just maybe Brown is being told to do a specific job by Macca.

I wouldnt mind Brown being slated so much if there werent worse players on the park OR anyone better available.

[Dave T]

Anyone who thinks a loose forward at stand off would be the better move clearly has had their brain removed and replaced with David "loose forwards in every position" Waite.

Been there, done that and with much, much better loose forwards than O'Loughlin...

Brown made 22 tackles on Saturday, more than some of the forwards and Tomkins about 8. Maybe, just maybe Brown is being told to do a specific job by Macca.

I wouldnt mind Brown being slated so much if there werent worse players on the park OR anyone better available.

The problem is that playing in such a high profile position as stand off, Brown is always going to come under scrutiny. I do agree that he may have been asked to play a certain way, but ultimately what he did was pretty ineffective (as was many others) and O'Loughlin could do a good job at 6, just like Sculthorpe and Farrell did in the past.

My main issue with Brown was that he played too deep and was too predictable. Maybe he just had a touch of stage fright in the first half, as he seemed overly keen on giving the drop off ball to the 2nd rowers rather than drawing the line or doing something different. He did look better as the game went on and opened up, so if he is still in then maybe he will be much better for this game.

[nec]

1. G Widdop
2. D.Goulding
3. T.Briscoe
4. G.Ellis
5. R.Hall
6. S.Tomkins
7. L.Robinson
8. J.Graham
9. S.Lunt
10. S.Fielden
11. S Burgess
12. B.Westwood
13. S O'Loughlin

14. J.Roby
15. E.Crabtree
16. G Carvell
17. B Harrison