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[John Drake]

That bloomin' Tony 'Random League' Hannan is off on one again on his blog, this time about why Rugby League needs the Beeb.

http://tonyhannan.wo...-being-noticed/

[Futtocks]

Ah, so that's where 'Moz' Dee has ended up. I remember having some correspondence with him during the campaign to get The Superleague Show broadcast nationally. The best that I can say about Mr Dee is that his responses were slightly less weaselly and mendacious than Peter Salmon.

Which isn't saying much at all.

[liger05]

Boxing fans say the decline of boozing in the social conscience is down to boxing no longer being on terrestrial TV but its rubbish.

Stars can be made with or without terrestrial TV. Ricky Hatton was a huge star and never fought on terrestrial TV. Naseem Hamed was huge and all his big fights were on Sky.

Audley Harrison fought on terrestrial TV and was never a star even though he came into the pro game on the back of an Olympic gold medal.

Floyd Mayweather is the biggest star in boxing and only fights on PPV.

I do not accept that for the sport to grow its needs more coverage on terrestrial tv. What the sport needs is for a select amount of players to cross over become mainstream stars. It’s up the RFL to do the necessary work to make this happen.

Rugby Union isn’t that a huge of a sport. It’s not exactly a sport where on the Monday morning at work everyone is talking about the weekend action yet what Union has is certain players who are mainstream. Non Rugby Union fans even know who these players are.

There is no reason why Rugby League couldn’t have this.

Look at Darts. The #1 organisation has only ever been on Sky yet look how big its become. Nobody would ever believe it could explode like it has done.

Edited by liger05, 26 October 2010 - 12:08 PM.

[Ant]

So, who do we push to get on the next "Celebrity Come Dancing"?

[Maltese Falcon]

Boxing fans say the decline of boozing in the social conscience is down to boxing no longer being on terrestrial TV but its rubbish.

Stars can be made with or without terrestrial TV. Ricky Hatton was a huge star and never fought on terrestrial TV. Naseem Hamed was huge and all his big fights were on Sky.

Audley Harrison fought on terrestrial TV and was never a star even though he came into the pro game on the back of an Olympic gold medal.

Floyd Mayweather is the biggest star in boxing and only fights on PPV.

I do not accept that for the sport to grow its needs more coverage on terrestrial tv. What the sport needs is for a select amount of players to cross over become mainstream stars. It’s up the RFL to do the necessary work to make this happen.

Rugby Union isn’t that a huge of a sport. It’s not exactly a sport where on the Monday morning at work everyone is talking about the weekend action yet what Union has is certain players who are mainstream. Non Rugby Union fans even know who these players are.

There is no reason why Rugby League couldn’t have this.

Not sure that boxing is the best example to be honest because it is a sport that places an emphasis on individuals rather than a sport as a whole. I would argue that the sport of boxing gains more from BBC coverage of the Olympics and Commonwealth Games - whereas PPV tends to do more to increase the profile of particular boxers.

I agree with you that the likes of Hatton and Naseem Hamed became big stars without terrestrial coverage, but they then slip out of the limelight when their careers end - unless they then decide to prolong their career by doing something like ballroom dancing which will invariably be shown on BBC or ITV.

Boxers can become famous and wealthy without terrestrial exposure, but that isn't necessarily a measure of how boxing is perceived as a sport.

Rugby League needs to raise its profile as a sport, which will then lead to greater exposure for its most skillful players, who then in turn can promote the sport further. And therein lies the problem at the moment - how to get one without the other.

[nec]

So, who do we push to get on the next "Celebrity Come Dancing"?

Sean Long would be the best bet in terms of being recognisable by non-afficionados. Scully in terms of likelihood to become fancied by middle-aged housewives.

Edited by nec, 26 October 2010 - 12:34 PM.

[Millman]

I agree with you that the likes of Hatton and Naseem Hamed became big stars without terrestrial coverage, but they then slip out of the limelight when their careers end - unless they then decide to prolong their career by doing something like ballroom dancing which will invariably be shown on BBC or ITV.

Or taking coke or killing on the roads......

[Trojan]

So, who do we push to get on the next "Celebrity Come Dancing"?

Eorl Crabtree?

[Millman]

Eorl Crabtree?

He wouldn't dance his weight.

[HappyDave]

I watched the Sam Burgess footage from Soccer AM the other day on YouTube & it was pretty well done even though the presenters knew sweet FA about RL. I know neither Siccer AM or QOS get a reallyblarge audience but having good Super League players who can speak well on the likes of the & even that League of Their Own (which I've never seen) is a way to get our 'stars' more exposure.

RL players should avoid reality TV trash AT ALL COSTS!!

I wish I'd seen Peacock on QoS as I only caught a small clip of him on a 'Best of Question of Sport' compilation on the Beeb a few weeks back. In all honesty having seen Morley, Peacock & Senior on the Beeb's RL coverage this year they seem to be fairly well spoken & comfortable infront of the camera. So seeing as they're possibly 3 of RL's most recognised faces due to their GB & England careers, even if Peacocks psycho-eyes freak the general public out.

Edited by HappyDave, 26 October 2010 - 10:44 PM.

[nec]

I watched the Sam Burgess footage from Soccer AM the other day on YouTube & it was pretty well done even though the presenters knew sweet FA about RL. I know neither Siccer AM or QOS get a reallyblarge audience but having good Super League players who can speak well on the likes of the & even that League of Their Own (which I've never seen) is a way to get our 'stars' more exposure.

RL players should avoid reality TV trash AT ALL COSTS!!
I wish I'd seen Peacock on QoS as I only caught a small clip of him on a 'Best of Question of Sport' compilation on the Beeb a few weeks back. In all honesty having seen Morley, Peacock & Senior on the Beeb's RL coverage this year they seem to be fairly well spoken & comfortable infront of the camera. So seeing as they're possibly 3 of RL's most recognised faces due to their GB & England careers, even if Peacocks psycho-eyes freak the general public out.

Because this exposure has damaged the profiles of all the union boys to go on?

I can't say I'm a fan of the programme, but we can't change the world we just need to make the best of it!