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[l'angelo mysterioso]

tight rocking band
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McArtney at his best.

I can't stand most of ewhat he and john lennon did after they split, but when they got their heads from out of their asses they cvouild still do it.

There is still time for McArtney to produce some visceral passionate, yet articulate rock and roll

[Trojan]

tight rocking band
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no thumbs up

McArtney at his best.

I can't stand most of ewhat he and john lennon did after they split, but when they got their heads from out of their asses they cvouild still do it.

There is still time for McArtney to produce some visceral passionate, yet articulate rock and roll

Much of the stuff that McCartney does today that I like is old Beatles stuff. Nearly all of what he produced after the split IMO is ######. I've said it before and it bears repeating "Simply Having a Wonderful Christmas Time" is not only the worst Christmas record ever, it is IMO the worst record ever by anybody bar none.

[John Drake]

I've said it before and it bears repeating "Simply Having a Wonderful Christmas Time" is not only the worst Christmas record ever, it is IMO the worst record ever by anybody bar none.

Not sure about that. The Frog Chorus, anyone? McCartney trumps himself in worst ever record stakes!

McCartney has written many clunkers, tis true, but he's earned the right to IMO. When he's bad, he's awful, but when he's good, he's great.

Saw him live a few years back. One of the best concerts I've ever seen. Almost three hours of classic songs rolled out one after the other, not a bum note to be heard. And not all his Wings/solo stuff is unlistenable either.

[WearyRhino]

tight rocking band
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no thumbs up

McArtney at his best.

I can't stand most of ewhat he and john lennon did after they split, but when they got their heads from out of their asses they cvouild still do it.

There is still time for McArtney to produce some visceral passionate, yet articulate rock and roll

Have to disagree, I thought it sounded like a good pub band, at best.

I personally think the Beatles are overrated anyway - sacrilege I know! Great songwriting, but as a band they were average although collectively better than the sum of the four constituent parts.

[Trojan]

Have to disagree, I thought it sounded like a good pub band, at best.

I personally think the Beatles are overrated anyway - sacrilege I know! Great songwriting, but as a band they were average although collectively better than the sum of the four constituent parts.

TBH I've never heard close harmony in pop music either before or since that was as good as that between John Lennon and Paul McCartney, and occasionally George Harrison. As you say the whole was infinitely better than the parts.
The harmonies achieved on a simple love song "If I Fell" are unbelievable. I challenge anyone to sing this song as well as the Beatles did.

[WearyRhino]

TBH I've never heard close harmony in pop music either before or since that was as good as that between John Lennon and Paul McCartney .....

The Beach Boys?

[l'angelo mysterioso]

The Beach Boys?

before:
the everly brothers
the four seasons
any 50s doo wop group
thre springfields

edit;
since:
the hollies
crosby stills and nash
the byrds

Edited by l'angelo mysterioso, 27 October 2010 - 03:02 PM.

[WearyRhino]

before:
the everly brothers
the four seasons
any 50s doo wop group
thre springfields

edit;
since:
the hollies
crosby stills and nash
the byrds

Aye and them!

[l'angelo mysterioso]

Aye and them!

also the shirelles and all the other american girl groups that the beatles themselves did cover versions of

[Trojan]

also the shirelles and all the other american girl groups that the beatles themselves did cover versions of

I know what you both mean. But for me MCcatrney has a sweet tone to his voice and Lennon has a harsher tone and the two blended together for me are and unrepeatable sound. Seperate neither sounds as good. I was (am) an Everlys fan. I've got the original Shirelles 45 of "Will you love me tomorrow" somewhere and it's great. But even when covering other artists' songs, like Chuck Berry, Smokey Robinson or the Marvelettes I think the Beatles' versions are in many ways superior. I don't like the Beachboys, that's me not them. Whether it was the hours churning out music in Hamburg that enabled Lennon - McCartney to perfect this sound. or just serendipity I don't know. But I do know what I lilke.

[l'angelo mysterioso]

I know what you both mean. But for me MCcatrney has a sweet tone to his voice and Lennon has a harsher tone and the two blended together for me are and unrepeatable sound. Seperate neither sounds as good. I was (am) an Everlys fan. I've got the original Shirelles 45 of "Will you love me tomorrow" somewhere and it's great. But even when covering other artists' songs, like Chuck Berry, Smokey Robinson or the Marvelettes I think the Beatles' versions are in many ways superior. I don't like the Beachboys, that's me not them. Whether it was the hours churning out music in Hamburg that enabled Lennon - McCartney to perfect this sound. or just serendipity I don't know. But I do know what I lilke.

aye

for mine nonbody was better than the hollies for tight harmonies. They made some classics.

[Trojan]

aye

for mine nonbody was better than the hollies for tight harmonies. They made some classics.

There again. I don't like the sound of Alan Clarke's voice. I don't like the sound of Phil Collins's voice either. I know it's probably me not them. But there you go.

[l'angelo mysterioso]

There again. I don't like the sound of Alan Clarke's voice. I don't like the sound of Phil Collins's voice either. I know it's probably me not them. But there you go.

don't you dare mention the great Alan Clarke and the appaling whining Phil Collins in the same sentence!

[Trojan]

don't you dare mention the great Alan Clarke and the appaling whining Phil Collins in the same sentence!

Sorry but I've never been a Hollies fan. "He's not heavy, he's my brother" ought to be my kind of song, and I absolutely hate it. The only Hollies song I've any time for is "Jennifer Eccles" for personal reasons.
My favourite bands from the 60's apart from the Beatles, are The Animals, Eric Burdon's vocals and Alan Price's blues piano and organ. The Stones, when Brian Jones was with them. And I was (am) a huge Dylan fan.

Edited by Trojan, 27 October 2010 - 09:44 PM.

[Millman]

don't you dare mention the great Alan Clarke and the appaling whining Phil Collins in the same sentence!

Awww c'mon Frank I bet you love a bit of su-sussudiooho.

[tim2]

Sorry but I've never been a Hollies fan. "He's not heavy, he's my brother" ought to be my kind of song, and I absolutely hate it. The only Hollies song I've any time for is "Jennifer Eccles" for personal reasons.
My favourite bands from the 60's apart from the Beatles, are The Animals, Eric Burdon's vocals and Alan Price's blues piano and organ. The Stones, when Brian Jones was with them. And I was (am) a huge Dylan fan.

Ray Davies, who was on Jools Holland last week, is my favourite British songwriter of the 60s.

I can forgive McCartney some terrible post-Beatles stuff because some of the songs he wrote for the Beatles are genius. It must be that Lennon reined him in from being too soppy and cloying. Although allegedly Lennon thought Band on the Run was pretty good and it made him up his game a bit.

[l'angelo mysterioso]

Ray Davies, who was on Jools Holland last week, is my favourite British songwriter of the 60s.

I can forgive McCartney some terrible post-Beatles stuff because some of the songs he wrote for the Beatles are genius. It must be that Lennon reined him in from being too soppy and cloying. Although allegedly Lennon thought Band on the Run was pretty good and it made him up his game a bit.

lennon did soppy and cloying easily as much as mcartney did.' Imagine', all that ###### about when I'm sitting in the bath I call your name.

[l'angelo mysterioso]

Sorry but I've never been a Hollies fan. "He's not heavy, he's my brother" ought to be my kind of song, and I absolutely hate it. The only Hollies song I've any time for is "Jennifer Eccles" for personal reasons.
My favourite bands from the 60's apart from the Beatles, are The Animals, Eric Burdon's vocals and Alan Price's blues piano and organ. The Stones, when Brian Jones was with them. And I was (am) a huge Dylan fan.

the Hollies were a bit of an anomaly in my portfolio.
I liked the animals, the who, the kinks, the stones and like you say Dylan. I tended tyowards RnB and soul
I'm off to see Paul Jones' Rhythm and Blues show in a couple of weeks. Alan Price is on the Bill, and so is Cliff Bennet-the most under apprecfiated artist of the era.

[Trojan]

Ray Davies, who was on Jools Holland last week, is my favourite British songwriter of the 60s.

I can forgive McCartney some terrible post-Beatles stuff because some of the songs he wrote for the Beatles are genius. It must be that Lennon reined him in from being too soppy and cloying. Although allegedly Lennon thought Band on the Run was pretty good and it made him up his game a bit.

"Lola" is probably the cleverest pop lyric every written! I like "Days" too - but I prefer Kirsty's verson. "Waterloo Sunset" is allegedly about Terrence Stamp and Julie Christie, so I'll forgive him that because "Far From the Madding Crowd" is one of my all time favourite films.

[WearyRhino]

"Waterloo Sunset" is allegedly about Terrence Stamp and Julie Christie, so I'll forgive him that because "Far From the Madding Crowd" is one of my all time favourite films.

I think that's a bit apocryphal - just like the idea that Carly Simon's You're So Vain is about Mick Jagger (and at least 3 or 4 others).