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#1 ckn

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Posted 15 November 2010 - 12:52 PM

We're getting mightily fed up of threads being derailed by people bringing muslims and islam into things for the sketchiest of reasons.

Before the current paranoia over anything muslim, Godwin's Law was very appropriate, these days though people will blame muslims rather than go for a Hitler/Nazi reference.

As such, any post that, in our subjective opinion, unnecessarily brings in unfavourable references to muslims or islam in a thread that is not specifically to do with muslims or islam will be deleted. If that offends some people's sensibilities and "rights" to free speech then tough, there are forums out there where frothy mouthed rantings about people who are different to you will be tolerated, this isn't one of them.

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Posted 15 November 2010 - 12:57 PM

QUOTE (ckn @ Nov 15 2010, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We're getting mightily fed up of threads being derailed by people bringing muslims and islam into things for the sketchiest of reasons.

Before the current paranoia over anything muslim, Godwin's Law was very appropriate, these days though people will blame muslims rather than go for a Hitler/Nazi reference.

As such, any post that, in our subjective opinion, unnecessarily brings in unfavourable references to muslims or islam in a thread that is not specifically to do with muslims or islam will be deleted. If that offends some people's sensibilities and "rights" to free speech then tough, there are forums out there where frothy mouthed rantings about people who are different to you will be tolerated, this isn't one of them.

You should keep and publish a league table of those posters that have their posts deleted in line with the above.

We could run a sweep on who would be in the top five.

Should I start a thread?

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Posted 15 November 2010 - 12:59 PM

QUOTE (Millman @ Nov 15 2010, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You should keep and publish a league table of those posters that have their posts deleted in line with the above.

We could run a sweep on who would be in the top five.

Should I start a thread?


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Posted 15 November 2010 - 01:00 PM

huh.gif Will the same apply to criticism of Christians and Christianity?
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Posted 15 November 2010 - 01:03 PM

QUOTE (ckn @ Nov 15 2010, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We're getting mightily fed up of threads being derailed by people bringing muslims and islam into things for the sketchiest of reasons.

Before the current paranoia over anything muslim, Godwin's Law was very appropriate, these days though people will blame muslims rather than go for a Hitler/Nazi reference.

As such, any post that, in our subjective opinion, unnecessarily brings in unfavourable references to muslims or islam in a thread that is not specifically to do with muslims or islam will be deleted. If that offends some people's sensibilities and "rights" to free speech then tough, there are forums out there where frothy mouthed rantings about people who are different to you will be tolerated, this isn't one of them.



QUOTE (Number 16 @ Nov 15 2010, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
huh.gif Will the same apply to criticism of Christians and Christianity?

I think you may have missed the bit in bold. rolleyes.gif
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Posted 15 November 2010 - 01:04 PM

QUOTE (Number 16 @ Nov 15 2010, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
huh.gif Will the same apply to criticism of Christians and Christianity?

Doesn't need to be applied, they'll forgive us.

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Posted 15 November 2010 - 01:04 PM

I blame diabolists. They come over here, slaughter our goats, deflower our virgins...

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Posted 15 November 2010 - 01:05 PM

QUOTE (Griff9of13 @ Nov 15 2010, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you may have missed the bit in bold. rolleyes.gif

I took the bit in bold to be about those cartoons of pro mo.

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Posted 15 November 2010 - 01:23 PM

QUOTE (Millman @ Nov 15 2010, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You should keep and publish a league table of those posters that have their posts deleted in line with the above.

We could run a sweep on who would be in the top five.

Should I start a thread?



Ooops!! Looking back at that thread, I fear I might have inadvertently caused the thread drift - am I now top of your league table?
If so I bet I will have to work hard to stay there laugh.gif laugh.gif


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Posted 15 November 2010 - 01:27 PM

QUOTE (Hornetto @ Nov 15 2010, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
deflower our virgins...


In Rochdale? ohmy.gif

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Posted 15 November 2010 - 01:29 PM

QUOTE (bigred @ Nov 15 2010, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ooops!! Looking back at that thread, I fear I might have inadvertently caused the thread drift - am I now top of your league table?
If so I bet I will have to work hard to stay there laugh.gif laugh.gif

You wouldn't be anywhere near the top 10.

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Posted 15 November 2010 - 01:37 PM

QUOTE (Number 16 @ Nov 15 2010, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
huh.gif Will the same apply to criticism of Christians and Christianity?

read the thread again slowly
it has nothing to do with criticising islam or any other relgion. That happens regularly and legitimately. It's to do with invoking islam at any opportunity on just about any kind of thread.
I think all religions are evil, but I don't feel the need to say so when other topics are being discussed.
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Posted 15 November 2010 - 01:38 PM

QUOTE (Hornetto @ Nov 15 2010, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I blame diabolists. They come over here, slaughter our goats, deflower our virgins...


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Posted 15 November 2010 - 01:49 PM

QUOTE (ckn @ Nov 15 2010, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We're getting mightily fed up of threads being derailed by people bringing muslims and islam into things for the sketchiest of reasons.

Before the current paranoia over anything muslim, Godwin's Law was very appropriate, these days though people will blame muslims rather than go for a Hitler/Nazi reference.

As such, any post that, in our subjective opinion, unnecessarily brings in unfavourable references to muslims or islam in a thread that is not specifically to do with muslims or islam will be deleted. If that offends some people's sensibilities and "rights" to free speech then tough, there are forums out there where frothy mouthed rantings about people who are different to you will be tolerated, this isn't one of them.


Not that I have an issue with this particular rule but I don't think the thread in question is a particularly good example of a thread that had little to do with Islam.

There was a clear Islamic reference in the quote by the Tory. It is unlikely that he would have referred to stoning to death had Ms Alibai-Brown not been a Muslim. Most of us see the police reaction as over-the-top policing restricting free speech where there was no genuine incitement to murder. Alibai-Brown's view was that as a Muslim, she would not have been able to get away with defence and so nobody should say it about her. It's hard not to mention Islam in this context.

I can agree that the Poppy comments were off-topic but so were the comments about the EDL targetting a Mosque in Portsmouth and yet that is considered "okay". I can appreciate that the EDL can't be equated to "Muslims" but the Poppy comments were clearly about extremist Muslims rather than the average Muslim.

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Posted 15 November 2010 - 02:16 PM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Nov 15 2010, 01:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
they'll have a lean time of it in Rochdale


why, are they short of goats, too?

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Posted 15 November 2010 - 05:47 PM

QUOTE (Number 16 @ Nov 15 2010, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In Rochdale? ohmy.gif



Oh, the Kirkholt estate is chocker with SuBo-esque cat-women.

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Posted 15 November 2010 - 10:02 PM

QUOTE (Millman @ Nov 15 2010, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You should keep and publish a league table of those posters that have their posts deleted in line with the above.

We could run a sweep on who would be in the top five.

Should I start a thread?

That way people would compete to make top 5 and threads on 5 Live would end up Islam.

I wouldn't be top 5 for turning subjects unnecessarily to Islam (I'm still tyring to work out how driving without insurance got changed to it but got some idea), but would be top 5 for debating it once the thread turns

Edited by bowes, 15 November 2010 - 10:03 PM.


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Posted 16 November 2010 - 07:56 AM

QUOTE (bowes @ Nov 15 2010, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That way people would compete to make top 5 and threads on 5 Live would end up Islam.

I wouldn't be top 5 for turning subjects unnecessarily to Islam (I'm still tyring to work out how driving without insurance got changed to it but got some idea), but would be top 5 for debating it once the thread turns


or debate any religion for that matter
they're all as bad IMHO
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Posted 16 November 2010 - 10:09 AM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Nov 16 2010, 07:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
or debate any religion for that matter
they're all as bad IMHO


You can't debate religion. Because it has no factual basis you can't use logic.
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Posted 16 November 2010 - 10:48 AM

QUOTE (tim2 @ Nov 16 2010, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You can't debate religion. Because it has no factual basis you can't use logic.

exactly.
that was what I was lamely trying to say
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