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#1 sergei bubka

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 03:46 PM

very impressive dispaly from wests. went to the game expecting siddal to roll them over after looking at the form book. came away very impressed with wests but a little worried for siddal. the defence is what they built their success on but that seems to be very shaky at the momemt. its got me wondering if their time at the top is finally coming to an end.
they go to a free scoring leigh east next week and could be on the end of a cricket score if they defend that badly down there.
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Posted 21 November 2010 - 09:21 PM

got to agree with you there siddal take losing badly too!
there defence is there strong point because they dont offer much going forward but thats failing now.
i remember mr greenwood coming on here sayig that leigh east were one season wonders at the start of the season cos they got beat in a couple of games!!
any feedback mr greenwood?


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Posted 22 November 2010 - 08:34 AM

You name a side that doesnt have a bad day in the office centreback and serg!

I tell u what centreback to say Siddal dont offer much going forward they havnt done bad over the last 10 year..any feedback from that comment old lad??

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 09:32 AM

Siddal were awful on Saturday and I think this has been coming over the last few weeks.
West Hull played well but their defence looks poor too. Losing is bad enough but against a team that is nowt special makes it worse.
No excuse but an 8-0 penalty count after 30mins and allowing Wests to blow us away in the first few minutes did not help!
It was however a toss up who was worse Siddal or the ref who you could see was going to lose control not helped by some of the local spectators getting invoved.He must have decided to even things up in the second half as he upset Wests and he had two adult linesmen who contriuted nothing.
Just hope this is a blip but need to improve to get things back on line and next week will be difficult.
Sure we will be up in the mix come the end of the season and hope West can do the business next week and Saturday was not just a flash in the pan.
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 11:42 AM

What a stupid comment that is about siddal being bad losers, any decent team wouldn't be good losers, siddal have been one of the best teams over the last 10 years because they are not happy being 2nd best, maybe they didn't react too good on Saturday due to a west hull spectator spitting at one of the siddal lads!!!


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Posted 22 November 2010 - 12:27 PM

Think there has been a big over reaction to what was just a bad day at the office for Siddal on Saturday.

To say there time at the top is coming to an end on the back of one result is just stupid in my opinion, especially when looking at the league table to see Siddal sitting in 3rd just two points off top spot.

I have no doubts that at the end of the season, Siddal will be in contention to win the league and the grand final.

#7 Mark Greenwood

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 03:48 PM

QUOTE (sergei bubka @ Nov 21 2010, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
very impressive dispaly from wests. went to the game expecting siddal to roll them over after looking at the form book. came away very impressed with wests but a little worried for siddal. the defence is what they built their success on but that seems to be very shaky at the momemt. its got me wondering if their time at the top is finally coming to an end.
they go to a free scoring leigh east next week and could be on the end of a cricket score if they defend that badly down there.

How can you come to this conclusion? Every team has an off day. Siddal will bounce back and be in the mix at the end of the season. It will be tough at Leigh East this Saturday, Gudor in Dubai in the Rugby Union 7's!! and still some big game players out like Luke Simeunovich.
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 06:12 PM

commented wen west came 2 siddal that it was the worst west hull team i hav seen 4 a long time....in this league anyone can beat anyone,st pats at east hull !!!1.You dont get nothing for being top team in november.at the end of the season siddal will b there,then let the talk begin.


#9 JACKSCHITT

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 06:57 PM

To be honest i expressed some worries about Siddal after being beaten at Saddlewoth.

They have and are doing well,for deffo finish in top 6, away form a bit iffy, but home form is superb.any team who loses two brilliant players like Brad Attwood and Shaun Garrod (injured),will have a hard job to find a players to recruit to fill there boots, also missing luke siminovic at the moment.

It will be tough on saturday at Easts, without Lee Gudor too,but i think we are going through a rebuilding time at the moment, im sure we will be in top 6 which is more than i expected and if we are who would fancy a play off match at Siddal.

As for Lee Greenwood if he did not win another match for Siddal as coach he can put his record on the table and say top that, love or loathe him you cannot deny him.

On another topic went to Siddal on friday night for a gentlemans dinner, the guest speaker was ex Leeds and Halifax star Roy Dickinson,hey guys anyone looking for a great speaker and real funny guy he is the man very very funny ,heard he did not leave the club while 5.45 A.M some session .top bloke

Edited by JACKSCHITT, 22 November 2010 - 06:58 PM.

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#10 mr chairman

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 07:12 PM

sidall will be up there at the end of season , itg will be a tough game on saturday it always is when you play sidall , we lost on saturday as well and still have a few players out but its the strength in depth that counts when you play in this league , younger players get brought in and give you some true grit and lots of heart as we have found over the last 6 games . never high scoring games against sidall like the 9-8 at sidall when they beat us . must admit i was suprised they let 50 in against west hull but it happens in this league

#11 JACKSCHITT

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 07:31 PM

Well said Mr chairman,this is a tough league away wins are hard to come by,i was also surprised we conceded 50 but it happens,on a footnote i think we will get turned over on saturday,

our defence was our strength when we won the lot, but we are conceding a lot of points at the moment.funny thing though Mr Chairman apart from maybe against yourselves and Skirlaugh dont think we have put 80 mins together yet.

Anyway Mr Chairman dont think your mate kim is over on Sat but i can ask him if you like

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#12 mr chairman

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 07:37 PM

QUOTE (JACKSCHITT @ Nov 22 2010, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well said Mr chairman,this is a tough league away wins are hard to come by,i was also surprised we conceded 50 but it happens,on a footnote i think we will get turned over on saturday,

our defence was our strength when we won the lot, but we are conceding a lot of points at the moment.funny thing though Mr Chairman apart from maybe against yourselves and Skirlaugh dont think we have put 80 mins together yet.

Anyway Mr Chairman dont think your mate kim is over on Sat but i can ask him if you like



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#13 The Bish

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 07:51 PM

I've not seen Siddal this season yet, but have seen Skirlaugh, Leigh Miners, and Leigh East a few times, and I reckon the reason everyone can beat anyone, is because the standard seems to have dropped a touch with the top teams which happens now and again. I know Leigh East had a purple patch where they were almost unbeatable for a few games, but they've lost five games now, and come the end of the season the top team might have lost about eight matches. That means some teams who have been looking over their shoulder for most of the campaign, will put a couple of results together and finish in the top six maybe. To start rubbishing Siddal at this stage is just silly, unless some people have been green with envy for ten years.

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 07:42 PM

QUOTE (The Bish @ Nov 22 2010, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've not seen Siddal this season yet, but have seen Skirlaugh, Leigh Miners, and Leigh East a few times, and I reckon the reason everyone can beat anyone, is because the standard seems to have dropped a touch with the top teams which happens now and again. I know Leigh East had a purple patch where they were almost unbeatable for a few games, but they've lost five games now, and come the end of the season the top team might have lost about eight matches. That means some teams who have been looking over their shoulder for most of the campaign, will put a couple of results together and finish in the top six maybe. To start rubbishing Siddal at this stage is just silly, unless some people have been green with envy for ten years.

Ive seen all the top sides and i dont think there is a really excellent dominating team. Saw Queens a couple of times last year and they would be top if they were in this comp. Poorish standard this season.

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 08:29 PM

QUOTE (hullofaguy67 @ Nov 23 2010, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ive seen all the top sides and i dont think there is a really excellent dominating team. Saw Queens a couple of times last year and they would be top if they were in this comp. Poorish standard this season.

I've played 1st and 2nd team for Siddal this year and played against Queens a couple of weeks ago. Queens are a good team but would be mid table in NCL Prem. I would agree about the standard dropping though, seemed to be a bit quicker/tougher 2 or 3 seasons ago in my opinion. Very young squad at Siddal, 4 or 5 lads around 30 but the majority around 21-25 - plenty of strong seasons ahead.

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 09:17 PM

agree with you jock saw queens a couple of weeks ago not as good as they were or as good as they think they are i think mid table at best thankfully we will never find out.

as for the league i think the standard is great the teams are so well matched now and i think it is good that we do not have one outstanding team or one very poor team ,any team can beat another on its day.

the best team i have seen at siddal this season on there performance was york acorn look where they are

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 09:52 PM

QUOTE (JACKSCHITT @ Nov 23 2010, 09:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
agree with you jock saw queens a couple of weeks ago not as good as they were or as good as they think they are i think mid table at best thankfully we will never find out.

as for the league i think the standard is great the teams are so well matched now and i think it is good that we do not have one outstanding team or one very poor team ,any team can beat another on its day.

the best team i have seen at siddal this season on there performance was york acorn look where they are



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Posted 24 November 2010 - 11:04 AM

I think the standard of the league has improved throughout rather than gone poorer.

If you look at the league 10 years ago there were maybe 2 or 3 teams who were consistantly at the top and the rest were average. These days since the weakening of the alliance teams at pro level, teams are much more even with quality players scattered throughout the teams. The NCL premier division is probably the closest, toughest, best value for money league in the game today.

Teams in relegation can realistically aim for the playoffs and anyone in the top six have a chance of winning the league up until the final few weeks. Superleague can only wish for that kind of competitiveness.

The level is almost up to semi pro with teams training just as much, players putting the same hours in the gym and the quality of the play just as good if not better.

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Posted 24 November 2010 - 05:11 PM

Yeah but you could also say that the leading teams have dropped off a bit, making it a more even league. With no disrespect to LMR Skirlaugh and Siddal for instance, I don't think they're quite up to were they were a couple of years ago.

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Posted 24 November 2010 - 08:16 PM

Dont think you are disrespecting the teams bish i think that they have set the standard for the others .

Over time teams have got better, the league's getting better and the standard is getting better.

Look at the league when it started and where it is now, it is the best value in sport ,look at what you get for £15 to £20 in the superleague and what you get for £2 in the ncl.

And the ncl seems to be run right most of the time instead of the muppets who run the rfl,throwing money all over britain instead of looking after their own .
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