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#21 waistline expansionist

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 03:59 PM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Dec 3 2010, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what are you trying to say?


Well the discussion relates to the sexual mores of men of Pakistani origin, so here's an article on that subject.



#22 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 04:30 PM

QUOTE (waistline expansionist @ Dec 3 2010, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well the discussion relates to the sexual mores of men of Pakistani origin, so here's an article on that subject.


no it doesn't

rape, paedophilia and other sexual offences have nothing to do with 'sexual mores'. I suggest you do a bit of research.
and looking at pornography has nothing to do with the sexual mores of men of pakistani origin(also known as pakistanis) either

Edited by l'angelo mysterioso, 03 December 2010 - 04:33 PM.

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 04:34 PM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Dec 3 2010, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no it doesn't

rape, paedophilia and other sexual offences have nothing to do with 'sexual mores'. I suggest you do a bit of research.
and looking at pornography has nothing to do with the sexual mores of men of pakistani origin(also known as pakistanis) either


The article refers to searches for child porn, rape porn, bestiality and various other nasty stuff that goes beyond what we would normally consider porn.

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 04:43 PM

QUOTE (Northern Sol @ Dec 3 2010, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The article refers to searches for child porn, rape porn, bestiality and various other nasty stuff that goes beyond what we would normally consider porn.



For pity's sake NS, how long have you been a member of this board. By now you should know better than to try and challenge the usual suspects' sanctimonious posturing, and especially not by introducing mere facts.
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#25 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 05:10 PM

QUOTE (Northern Sol @ Dec 3 2010, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The article refers to searches for child porn, rape porn, bestiality and various other nasty stuff that goes beyond what we would normally consider porn.


yes its weird, depraved, stuff that any decent person wouldn't have anything to do with, and would quite rightly get you locked up in many countries including the UK
does it act as an indicator that young asian men in the UK are predisposed to sexually abusing vulnerable adolescent girls? I don't think so
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Posted 03 December 2010 - 05:10 PM

QUOTE (Wolford6 @ Dec 3 2010, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For pity's sake NS, how long have you been a member of this board. By now you should know better than to try and challenge the usual suspects' sanctimonious posturing, and especially not by introducing mere facts.
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fortunately unlike you NS is capable of having an adult discussion
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Posted 03 December 2010 - 07:52 PM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Dec 3 2010, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
fortunately unlike you NS is capable of having an adult discussion



Fortunately, unlike you, I am capable of using conventional punctuation.
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#28 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 09:01 PM

QUOTE (Wolford6 @ Dec 3 2010, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fortunately, unlike you, I am capable of using conventional punctuation.
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and there's me thinking it wasn't an english exam
by the way not doing something doesn't meran you are unable to do so: sometimes it means you can't be assed
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Posted 03 December 2010 - 09:12 PM

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#30 Northern Sol

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 09:36 PM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Dec 3 2010, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes its weird, depraved, stuff that any decent person wouldn't have anything to do with, and would quite rightly get you locked up in many countries including the UK
does it act as an indicator that young asian men in the UK are predisposed to sexually abusing vulnerable adolescent girls? I don't think so


I think it is more a general indicator of what happens when sexuality is repressed. It goes in some pretty odd directions. I think there is also a certain overlap between this and what Alibai-Brown was saying about a culture that may not exactly tolerate this kind of stuff but doesn't tackle it head on either.

#31 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 11:15 PM

QUOTE (Northern Sol @ Dec 3 2010, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it is more a general indicator of what happens when sexuality is repressed. It goes in some pretty odd directions. I think there is also a certain overlap between this and what Alibai-Brown was saying about a culture that may not exactly tolerate this kind of stuff but doesn't tackle it head on either.


I think that's an interesting point
but rape and sexual abuse aren't related to sexuality
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Posted 04 December 2010 - 12:18 AM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Dec 3 2010, 11:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think that's an interesting point
but rape and sexual abuse aren't related to sexuality

They can be

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 04:57 AM

She makes many of the same points which I made on the last thread. But then wrapped it all up in hate speak for the numbskulls who send her offensive mail. That could have been ommitted.

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 08:48 AM

QUOTE (bowes @ Dec 4 2010, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They can be


in what way?
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Posted 04 December 2010 - 09:02 AM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Dec 4 2010, 08:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
in what way?

They may be that desperate for sex they resort to abuse or rape? In some of these cases most of the abusers (not these arrested ringleaders) would be the men paying for the women as prostitutes

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 12:31 PM

QUOTE (bowes @ Dec 4 2010, 09:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They may be that desperate for sex they resort to abuse or rape? In some of these cases most of the abusers (not these arrested ringleaders) would be the men paying for the women as prostitutes


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#37 Northern Sol

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 01:53 PM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Dec 3 2010, 11:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think that's an interesting point
but rape and sexual abuse aren't related to sexuality


But they are related to attitudes towards sexuality. The uber-traditional attitude towards women is that they are virtuous or they are whores; if they are whores then it doesn't matter what happens to them.

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 02:37 PM

QUOTE (Northern Sol @ Dec 4 2010, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But they are related to attitudes towards sexuality. The uber-traditional attitude towards women is that they are virtuous or they are whores; if they are whores then it doesn't matter what happens to them.


what you are describing is attitudes towards gender not sexuality.
A person's 'sexuality' refers to their sexual orientation, whether they are attracted to men or women or both. This has no bearing on a person's prediliction for rape.
what was driving these men to behaving the way that they did?
Their race? I don't believe so.
Their religion? I don't think so.
The race of their victims? Possibly
Their sexual urges? I don't think so, that isn't what rape is all about
in my opinion it was the vulnerability of their victims -this is about power, combined with maybe racism.
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Posted 04 December 2010 - 02:54 PM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Dec 4 2010, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what you are describing is attitudes towards gender not sexuality.
A person's 'sexuality' refers to their sexual orientation, whether they are attracted to men or women or both. This has no bearing on a person's prediliction for rape.
what was driving these men to behaving the way that they did?
Their race? I don't believe so.
Their religion? I don't think so.
The race of their victims? Possibly
Their sexual urges? I don't think so, that isn't what rape is all about
in my opinion it was the vulnerability of their victims -this is about power, combined with maybe racism.


Hear, hear.




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Posted 04 December 2010 - 03:53 PM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Dec 4 2010, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what you are describing is attitudes towards gender not sexuality.
A person's 'sexuality' refers to their sexual orientation, whether they are attracted to men or women or both. This has no bearing on a person's prediliction for rape.


No, it doesn't at least it doesn't solely refer to that. Your sexuality isn't just about whether you prefer "chicks", "dudes" or "chicks with dix". It is also refers to whether things such as believing that sex outside of marriage is wrong or whether dogging is nowt but a bit of a laugh.

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