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#41 WearyRhino

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 04:22 PM

QUOTE (Northern Sol @ Dec 4 2010, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, it doesn't at least it doesn't solely refer to that. Your sexuality isn't just about whether you prefer "chicks", "dudes" or "chicks with dix". It is also refers to whether things such as believing that sex outside of marriage is wrong or whether dogging is nowt but a bit of a laugh.

Freddie Mercury was a homosexual and so was Kenneth Williams but while one went in for over indulgence, the other was plagued by self-revulsion and abstinence.


You are missing the point. 'Rape' has nothing to do with sexuality, sexual mores, sexual orientation, sexual preference, sexual/gender identity, adultery, eroticism, sexual deviance, high/low sex drive, sexual 'starvation' or arguably even sex per se. It is an act of power, often borne of perceived powerlessness in the perpetrator - which is not an attempt to justify or mitigate, before the reactionary squad on here jump up and down.

#42 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 05:46 PM

QUOTE (Northern Sol @ Dec 4 2010, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, it doesn't at least it doesn't solely refer to that. Your sexuality isn't just about whether you prefer "chicks", "dudes" or "chicks with dix". It is also refers to whether things such as believing that sex outside of marriage is wrong or whether dogging is nowt but a bit of a laugh.

Freddie Mercury was a homosexual and so was Kenneth Williams but while one went in for over indulgence, the other was plagued by self-revulsion and abstinence.


I'm afraid I disagree. You are confusing sexuality with moral compass, or preferencesand issues within a person's own sexuality. Mercury and Williams were both gay. This affected them in different ways as you describe. Neither were rapists.

Edited by l'angelo mysterioso, 04 December 2010 - 05:56 PM.

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#43 Northern Sol

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 09:15 PM

QUOTE (l'angelo mysterioso @ Dec 4 2010, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm afraid I disagree. You are confusing sexuality with moral compass, or preferencesand issues within a person's own sexuality. Mercury and Williams were both gay. This affected them in different ways as you describe. Neither were rapists.


Very well if you prefer it that way, the report says nothing about Pakistani sexuality but lots about their "moral compass". Same horse, different legs as they say.

#44 Northern Sol

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 09:16 PM

QUOTE (WearyRhino @ Dec 4 2010, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You are missing the point. 'Rape' has nothing to do with sexuality, sexual mores, sexual orientation, sexual preference, sexual/gender identity, adultery, eroticism, sexual deviance, high/low sex drive, sexual 'starvation' or arguably even sex per se. It is an act of power, often borne of perceived powerlessness in the perpetrator - which is not an attempt to justify or mitigate, before the reactionary squad on here jump up and down.


And that's been proven, has it?

You are quoting a particular point of view as if it is the only possible take on an issue.

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 06:47 AM

QUOTE (Northern Sol @ Dec 9 2010, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And that's been proven, has it?

You are quoting a particular point of view as if it is the only possible take on an issue.


I think the above interpretation was put forward by extremely vocal and well publicised left wing feminists as the only interpretation. Whilst I agree with many of their aims in increasing the Police recogition in the the importance of rape, which needed doing. I'm not convinced that their interpretation is entirely true for every situation. People are all different, as are their motives. We accept that in everyday life, why not when rape is involved. Why must everyone suddenly fit a rigidly defined set of rules? It doesn't ring true to me.




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