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#1 BOLTON ROUGHYED

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 04:15 PM

For anyone who hasn't been on the club website, Mick has got a 3 month ban for using cannabis.

Significantly, the item reads "former Oldham player..."

Given that, and the fact that Woodcock is a centre, has Mick been given the boot??

I really hope not. Neither the club nor Mick, or me, for that matter, condone the use of drugs of any sort. However, is it really the end of the world? The fact that he has been given only 3 months, starting on October 1st, would suggest that even the RL are not overly concerned.

In the article Mick talks about enjoying the best season of his career. The lad is Oldham through and through, despite taking a while to get here. I really think the club should stand by him and snap him back up, before someone else does..

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#2 m brooksy

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 04:43 PM

I'll be very disappointed if he has left. It doesn't sound good on the website though,'Former Oldham player' , 'sorry to see it end like this'.

Edit: Just thinking about this now, surely Foggy has to be a' former player'. If he was suspended on the 11th Oct he can't sign a contract for anyone and his current contract runs out at the end of November means he is no longer our player.

Edited by m brooksy, 06 December 2010 - 05:47 PM.


#3 Geoff52

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 05:01 PM

It appears that Foggy has made a silly mistake. He knows he has; and he has apologised to the club, game and fans.

He shouldn't be overly punished for a minor indiscretion.
I hope that OLRFC keep Foggy on as a player and as an employee. The work that he put in on that ground in the past season has been heroic. It would be a very sad day indeed if we were to let him go for a small error on his part.


#4 Roughyeds Return

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 05:15 PM

A real shame if we aren't retaining him. Lets hope the club are just playing the politics game and not announcing the fact that they have given him another contract until the suspension comes to an end.

The suspension will finish on 11th January anyway, so he wouldn't miss any competitive games only Law Cup match.

It would be a poor decision to let him go for this minor issue. Thought he was one of our best last year, particularly early in the season where he was, at times, unstoppable.

Lets remember we gave Dave Allen a chance after a much worse drugs offence.

Edited by Roughyeds Return, 06 December 2010 - 05:17 PM.

COME ON OLDHAM!!!! COME ON OLDHAM!!!!!


#5 ClockworkCarrot

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 08:12 PM

And Said Tamghart.

Would hope to see Foggy return as well, quality centres at any level are in short supply

#6 nick_ov_harlfc

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 08:29 PM

the bottom line gives it away tho “It was a great year for me at my hometown club and I am desperately sorry that it has all had to end in this way. had to end this way hope he resigns tho

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 07:14 AM

QUOTE (nick_ov_harlfc @ Dec 6 2010, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the bottom line gives it away tho “It was a great year for me at my hometown club and I am desperately sorry that it has all had to end in this way. had to end this way hope he resigns tho


Got to agree from the comment it does not look good, just hope common sense prevails in what has been classed as a minor indiscretion, anything serious would have met with a much longer ban.

Come on Oldham give the guy a chance and get him resigned, I know the fans want to see him out there again in our colours.

#8 Mrbus

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 08:06 AM

poor message sent out by the RFL that a class B drug only gets a 3 month ban imo

#9 OldhamGal

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 08:08 AM

As other people have pointed out, we'd be huge hypocrites to not sign Foggy after some other that have passed through following drugs offences!

GET HIM SIGNED!
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#10 bobm

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 08:34 AM

You have to ask why the three month ban really. It's not like having a spliff is likely to enhance his playing, make him faster or more likely to to hold onto a ball - quite the opposite in fact. It's symptomatic of a generally confused policy on drugs in this country.

What would have been the RFL's reaction if he'd gone out, got ###### out of his head and passed out in the street. I'd guess that's just as bad and would set a terrible example to young people. When you see what some players in other sports do and ultimately get away with, you wonder what the fuss is about with Foggy.

He's been a fool for doing something illegal that can get him into trouble in the sport he plays. He's been banned, now let's get him back. Maybe then he will control his recreational activities better in the future.


#11 charlie caroli

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 11:24 AM

Its FOGGY in Oldham in July ,whats new.
Send in the Clowns they know what they are talking about.we may dress funny but we talk sense.Ive yet to see a funny Auss comedian,plenty of clowns though.

#12 reggahs

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 11:40 AM

QUOTE (bobm @ Dec 7 2010, 08:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You have to ask why the three month ban really. It's not like having a spliff is likely to enhance his playing, make him faster or more likely to to hold onto a ball - quite the opposite in fact.
because these guys are role models to the public, granted rugby league isn't affected as much, but if this was a footballer then it would have been back page news


#13 SINGE

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 11:47 AM

QUOTE (reggahs @ Dec 7 2010, 11:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
because these guys are role models to the public, granted rugby league isn't affected as much, but if this was a footballer then it would have been back page news

Got to disagree with the last statement. This is the equivalent of the bottom tier football player, so if a player from Rotherham, Barnet or such like got a 3 month ban for smoking cannabis, I doubt it would even make the paper, much less the back page.

#14 bobm

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 02:10 PM

Sorry to repeat myself, but what would be the consequences of the players going out and drinking themselves silly? They are surely role models then.

Alcohol is a far greater problem for society and causes more crime, injuries and deaths than cannabis. (I'm not a puritan, I enjoy a drink. I'm just realistic and honest about my drug of choice - the dreaded booze)

Foggy probably deserves a slap on the wrist because he knew what the consequences of smoking it would be, but that's about all. But we don't even know how many times he smoked it. It's a strange drug that hangs around in the bloodstream for up to a month after smoking it (not that it still has any effects then). He may have only had one spliff, once. It would still have showed up on his test.

Edited by bobm, 07 December 2010 - 02:11 PM.


#15 OldhamGal

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 03:10 PM

And if the only reason they get banned is because they're supposed role models-where does that leave the likes of Rooney???
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#16 higgy

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 04:03 PM

QUOTE (Geoff52 @ Dec 6 2010, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It appears that Foggy has made a silly mistake. He knows he has; and he has apologised to the club, game and fans.

He shouldn't be overly punished for a minor indiscretion.
I hope that OLRFC keep Foggy on as a player and as an employee. The work that he put in on that ground in the past season has been heroic. It would be a very sad day indeed if we were to let him go for a small error on his part.


It would be nice to get a statement from the club about his future, but I supposed thats to much to ask???

#17 mark richardson

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 04:48 PM

QUOTE (bobm @ Dec 7 2010, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry to repeat myself, but what would be the consequences of the players going out and drinking themselves silly? They are surely role models then.

Alcohol is a far greater problem for society and causes more crime, injuries and deaths than cannabis. (I'm not a puritan, I enjoy a drink. I'm just realistic and honest about my drug of choice - the dreaded booze)

Foggy probably deserves a slap on the wrist because he knew what the consequences of smoking it would be, but that's about all. But we don't even know how many times he smoked it. It's a strange drug that hangs around in the bloodstream for up to a month after smoking it (not that it still has any effects then). He may have only had one spliff, once. It would still have showed up on his test.

I applaud your forgiving attitude.
To me the main difference between smoking cannabis and getting drunk is cannabis is an illegal class b drug and alcohol is legal,and anyone over a certain age can drink as much as they like. The man is a grown up and will have known what he was doing when he smoked it and the risks he took regarding his rugby career. The fault is all his.
His punishment seems fair to me,and once served learn your lesson and pick up the pieces.

#18 shrewsburyroughyed

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 07:13 PM

I don't agree with drug taking and agree with those who say alcohol abuse is wrong too, both for supposed athletes and role models. But to be fair Foggy has given his all for Oldham. How many times would the likes of Rooney, Tevez etc (not to mention the Superleague boys) turn up unpaid, paintbrush in hand, to help repair their own team's ground. Let the lad take his ban then start afresh.

Seems a bit unfair that Aussie rl stars can beat their wives, batter anyone in the street, or even (Monaghan) upload photos of their attempts to have intimate relations with a dog; and all that gets them is a fat, juicy Superleague contract!

All Foggy did (as far as we know) was a few puffs of waccy baccy and he's banned for 3 months. Maybe Monaghan wasn't as bad as we think...maybe he didn't inhale.

#19 eclecticsheep

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 07:28 PM

He is truly sorry ...forgive him, ORLFC have got some of the most forgiveing long suffering fans in RL...Look at the slack cut over the last 13 years to other "Paragons of Virtue" at our beloved club. Whiter than white...I do not think so...
Do your ban and welcome back Foggy...PS dont ever touch the bloody stuff again!

#20 thecrab

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 07:43 PM

there's a big assumption that he actually wants to stay
he may want to leave, he may have had a better offer,who knows?

I hope he doesn't leave
Despite what's happened,he was fantastic for us on and off the field and should be kept.







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