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#1 Old Frightful

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 04:51 PM

To stop people going all the way round them.

Now I know, strictly speaking, I was at fault, but as I approached a four way mini roundabout (crossroads version) yesterday, a taxi driver entered said rbt from my left, just in time I might add, then as I pulled onto the rbt to go straight across, he did a full circle and nearly hit the back of my car.

Imo it's a manoeuvre for people who either can't be bothered or are incapable of doing a three point turn in order to turn round in a road.

On larger roundabouts I don't have a problem with it but the mini ones I think it's too dangerous.

On 13/2/2013, Hull City's owners the Allams, released a statement in their position as the owners of the KC Stadium Management Committee. One line in this statement read as follows....

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 04:55 PM

The highway code says,

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Mini-roundabouts. Approach these in the same way as normal roundabouts. All vehicles MUST pass round the central markings except large vehicles which are physically incapable of doing so. Remember, there is less space to manoeuvre and less time to signal. Avoid making U-turns at mini-roundabouts. Beware of others doing this.

[Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10(1) & 16(1)]

It isnt a rule but it does advise about not doing it. You will also see the warning about being aware of others doing it. I take it you were not thinking about someone going all the way round.

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 04:56 PM

broke the speed limit and beat me rolleyes.gif

Edited by amh, 18 December 2010 - 04:57 PM.

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 04:57 PM

QUOTE (amh @ Dec 18 2010, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jim will be along soon


To slow biggrin.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif wink.gif


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Posted 18 December 2010 - 04:58 PM

QUOTE (guess who @ Dec 18 2010, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To slow biggrin.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif wink.gif


swine blimmin faster than a fast thing laugh.gif
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Posted 18 December 2010 - 04:59 PM

QUOTE (guess who @ Dec 18 2010, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The highway code says,

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Mini-roundabouts. Approach these in the same way as normal roundabouts. All vehicles MUST pass round the central markings except large vehicles which are physically incapable of doing so. Remember, there is less space to manoeuvre and less time to signal. Avoid making U-turns at mini-roundabouts. Beware of others doing this.

[Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10(1) & 16(1)]

It isnt a rule but it does advise about not doing it. You will also see the warning about being aware of others doing it. I take it you were not thinking about someone going all the way round.

Cheers for the prompt reply. I forgot your occupation! biggrin.gif

You're correct, I wasn't expecting somebody to do it as I would never consider doing it, it's doing the unexpected imo and is dangerous.

I know I shouldn't say it but it's usually females although in this case, the taxi driver was male. (Sorry girls)

Good god, post 6 already, quick tapping on here...no doubt the with wrath of Mags to follow.

Edited by Old Frightful, 18 December 2010 - 05:01 PM.

On 13/2/2013, Hull City's owners the Allams, released a statement in their position as the owners of the KC Stadium Management Committee. One line in this statement read as follows....

"The SMC's principal responsibility is to remain neutral"


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Posted 18 December 2010 - 05:00 PM

The trouble with mini rounbabouts is the lack of time to indicate off (for those who know how to indicate on a roundabout anyway, most road users get the cba's or just do it plain wong).
It is harder to second guess a car doing a u-turn as you can't really pick up their line/lane.
In some cases it's too busy to try a 3 point turn, so the next roundabout is the easiest option, but it is hard to let others know you're going all the way, as it were.


I thought I was first to reply...../edit

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 05:01 PM

QUOTE (Old Frightful @ Dec 18 2010, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know I shouldn't say it but it's usually females although in this case, the taxi driver was male. (Sorry girls)


Wrong with your facts again today biggrin.gif

I think you will find more men do this particular manouvre

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 05:03 PM

QUOTE (amh @ Dec 18 2010, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wrong with your facts again today biggrin.gif

I think you will find more men do this particular manouvre

I was right about your wrath in my edited post though, although I did expect a bit more venom.
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Posted 18 December 2010 - 05:04 PM

One very simple tip to remember.

Watch the tyres of the car going round a mini roundabout. A lot of the time people don't or don't have time to indicate to exit a mini roundabout.
If they are going all the way round, there tyres will be pointing right just about all the time.

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 05:05 PM

QUOTE (Old Frightful @ Dec 18 2010, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was right about your wrath in my edited post though, although I did expect a bit more venom.


Very mellow today so you're only getting the school teacher instead of the witch tongue.gif
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Posted 18 December 2010 - 05:06 PM

QUOTE (guess who @ Dec 18 2010, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One very simple tip to remember.

Watch the tyres of the car going round a mini roundabout. A lot of the time people don't or don't have time to indicate to exit a mini roundabout.
If they are going all the way round, there tyres will be pointing right just about all the time.

Oh I was too busy on my phone and watching my satnav whilst drinking my bottle of Stella...










(just jesting, btw.)
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Posted 18 December 2010 - 05:07 PM

QUOTE (guess who @ Dec 18 2010, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One very simple tip to remember.

Watch the tyres of the car going round a mini roundabout. A lot of the time people don't or don't have time to indicate to exit a mini roundabout.
If they are going all the way round, there tyres will be pointing right just about all the time.

Good tip.
Probably better than trying to look for an orange flashing light. wink.gif
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Posted 18 December 2010 - 05:09 PM

QUOTE (guess who @ Dec 18 2010, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One very simple tip to remember.

Watch the tyres of the car going round a mini roundabout. A lot of the time people don't or don't have time to indicate to exit a mini roundabout.
If they are going all the way round, there tyres will be pointing right just about all the time.



How can you not have time to indicate??? That's just lazy surely?? Anyone not indicating should be going straight on. Please don't encourage the idiots who already fail to drive correctly, to now watch tyres ohmy.gif and takes their eyes off everything else.

oh and school teacher says 'their'
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Posted 18 December 2010 - 05:15 PM

QUOTE (amh @ Dec 18 2010, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How can you not have time to indicate??? That's just lazy surely?? Anyone not indicating should be going straight on. Please don't encourage the idiots who already fail to drive correctly, to now watch tyres ohmy.gif and takes their eyes off everything else.

oh and school teacher says 'their'


Look again Maggie, i say about having time to indicate to exit wink.gif

I make no mention about indicating on approach. Watching tyres is one thing that can help
If someone is just looking for a indicator, which may not be used. Would only be looking for one thing.

Some mini roundabouts are so small, steering becomes the priority.


As for the their dig rolleyes.gif

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 05:20 PM

I still disagree, sorry. For those of us who can drive properly, watching tyres is a good tip (I didn't need). I love driving and miss having a car, but I do not love or miss driving for, all the other idiots on the road.


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Posted 18 December 2010 - 05:26 PM

QUOTE (amh @ Dec 18 2010, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still disagree, sorry. For those of us who can drive properly, watching tyres is a good tip (I didn't need). I love driving and miss having a car, but I do not love or miss driving for, all the other idiots on the road.


I can take you to 3 mini roundabouts and 1 double mini roundabout in Keighley. Where you will not have to time to indicate to exit. If you try to, your steering will suffer. Thus causing problems for other drivers.

One quick question. How do you know you can drive properly?

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 05:37 PM

QUOTE (guess who @ Dec 18 2010, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One quick question. How do you know you can drive properly?


How very dare you tongue.gif Take me the 3 mini roundabouts and 1 double mini roundabout, and I'll show you

Second thoughts......in Keighley you say????

OK....I'd rather you call me a bad driver laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Posted 21 December 2010 - 08:53 AM

QUOTE (Old Frightful @ Dec 18 2010, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now I know, strictly speaking, I was at fault, but as I approached a four way mini roundabout (crossroads version) yesterday, a taxi driver entered said rbt from my left, just in time I might add, then as I pulled onto the rbt to go straight across, he did a full circle and nearly hit the back of my car.


Yes. Stop moaning.


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Posted 21 December 2010 - 09:13 AM

QUOTE (Old Frightful @ Dec 18 2010, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To stop people going all the way round them.

Now I know, strictly speaking, I was at fault, but as I approached a four way mini roundabout (crossroads version) yesterday, a taxi driver entered said rbt from my left, just in time I might add, then as I pulled onto the rbt to go straight across, he did a full circle and nearly hit the back of my car.

Imo it's a manoeuvre for people who either can't be bothered or are incapable of doing a three point turn in order to turn round in a road.

On larger roundabouts I don't have a problem with it but the mini ones I think it's too dangerous.


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