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#1 EQUALIZER

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Posté 02 janvier 2011 - 11:57

O.K it was only a friendly.However Dewsbury and Batley games are never really frendlies.Some of the old guard would turn in their grave, at the thought of comments that Dewsbury Batley being just a friendly.Now it seemed clear that our coach wasnt keen on an arranged date to this fixture. So if he wasnt bothered, its clear the players wernt bothered why play it? That performance even for a friendly was pathetic.Theres people that turned up today with kids and paid 40 quid plus to see that ###### .We could have at least tried to put on a bit of a show.To alot of people there was nothing to show we are in for a good season.Finally concerng Mr Faal it needs sorting,if its true and he hes guilty of the charges reported in the paper and quoted on here.Why is he still at the club full stop.

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Posté 03 janvier 2011 - 12:10

QUOTE (EQUALIZER @ Jan 2 2011, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
O.K it was only a friendly.However Dewsbury and Batley games are never really frendlies.Some of the old guard would turn in their grave, at the thought of comments that Dewsbury Batley being just a friendly.Now it seemed clear that our coach wasnt keen on an arranged date to this fixture. So if he wasnt bothered, its clear the players wernt bothered why play it? That performance even for a friendly was pathetic.Theres people that turned up today with kids and paid 40 quid plus to see that ###### .We could have at least tried to put on a bit of a show.To alot of people there was nothing to show we are in for a good season.Finally concerng Mr Faal it needs sorting,if its true and he hes guilty of the charges reported in the paper and quoted on here.Why is he still at the club full stop.



AF can't be regarded as guilty until he is tried, unless you prefer other systems of justice.

Happy New Year.


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Posté 03 janvier 2011 - 01:21

QUOTE (Blind side johnny @ Jan 3 2011, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
AF can't be regarded as guilty until he is tried, unless you prefer other systems of justice.

Happy New Year.

I agree its the papers and comments on here that have passed judgement.Just like the so called supporters that called his form when he played with a quiet bad injury due to the team being short of players.
Happy New Year


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Posté 03 janvier 2011 - 04:31

QUOTE (EQUALIZER @ Jan 3 2011, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree its the papers and comments on here that have passed judgement.Just like the so called supporters that called his form when he played with a quiet bad injury due to the team being short of players.
Happy New Year

If he had an injury - quiet, loud or otherwise, why the hell did the coach pick him. Short of players ? - forgive me, but didn't we have a squad of arround 40 at the start of the season, with just Brev, Spicer and Austin on the injury list ? Short on quality yes, on numbers no. As for the allegations, let us hope they are unfounded - if not for the sake of Faal, then for the good name of the club.




























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Posté 03 janvier 2011 - 04:44

Batley won without even going into second gear, the conditions and heavy ground i thought would be a leveller but not to be.
If that had been on a fast track they would have won by a lot more.
Hesketh played around 15 minutes only, handforth and Walton did not play half the game either, and the likes of potter, toohey, lythes and preece all played and are not expected to feature a great deal throughout the season when the DC players come in and Flanagan back in the fold.
I think if Brambini got injured your team would be in serious trouble because he at least offers a threat now and again, the other half is really not good at all. I am sure you guys will do ok and i doubt relegation will come into it but there is some work needed to be done and a change of tactics.



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Posté 03 janvier 2011 - 06:17

QUOTE (Bulldoggystyle @ Jan 3 2011, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Batley won without even going into second gear, the conditions and heavy ground i thought would be a leveller but not to be.
If that had been on a fast track they would have won by a lot more.
Hesketh played around 15 minutes only, handforth and Walton did not play half the game either, and the likes of potter, toohey, lythes and preece all played and are not expected to feature a great deal throughout the season when the DC players come in and Flanagan back in the fold.
I think if Brambini got injured your team would be in serious trouble because he at least offers a threat now and again, the other half is really not good at all. I am sure you guys will do ok and i doubt relegation will come into it but there is some work needed to be done and a change of tactics.

Whats this old wives tale that Batley play better on fast tracks? If July and August was to be their best time to play. That form would have relegated them last season.
Dewsbury were awful yesterday. But I can't belief nobody has mentioned how bad Two Bobs was. He looked very unfit or lame. Seemed like he was trying to play a halfback roll whilst the rest of the pack were struggling to get a foothold in the game. To be honest I thought the conditions suited the more squat Batley pack to the rangy Dewsbury forwards .
Two year ago we were worse than that against Batley and beat them quite easily a few week later, so you never know.

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Posté 03 janvier 2011 - 06:50

QUOTE (EQUALIZER @ Jan 2 2011, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
O.K it was only a friendly.However Dewsbury and Batley games are never really frendlies.Some of the old guard would turn in their grave, at the thought of comments that Dewsbury Batley being just a friendly.Now it seemed clear that our coach wasnt keen on an arranged date to this fixture. So if he wasnt bothered, its clear the players wernt bothered why play it? That performance even for a friendly was pathetic.Theres people that turned up today with kids and paid 40 quid plus to see that ###### .We could have at least tried to put on a bit of a show.


I agree. This match is always a chance to appeal to many that dont come on a regular basis, but unfortunately we did nothing that might make them think about turning up for the Toy town cup.

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Posté 03 janvier 2011 - 10:09

QUOTE (NickD @ Jan 3 2011, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree. This match is always a chance to appeal to many that dont come on a regular basis, but unfortunately we did nothing that might make them think about turning up for the Toy town cup.

I am usually the first to say dont give a damn about friendlies.Getting through them without injuries is the main concern. However i really thought this would be classic old type derby.Our ex vets on their side proving points and our new boys doing the same for us.May be my orriginal post may have been a tad harsh but it was posted in a mood of disappointment.Anyway guys and girls its history and we havnt long to wait to extract revenge.

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Posté 03 janvier 2011 - 10:29

QUOTE (potato ram @ Jan 3 2011, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Whats this old wives tale that Batley play better on fast tracks? If July and August was to be their best time to play. That form would have relegated them last season.
Dewsbury were awful yesterday. But I can't belief nobody has mentioned how bad Two Bobs was. He looked very unfit or lame. Seemed like he was trying to play a halfback roll whilst the rest of the pack were struggling to get a foothold in the game. To be honest I thought the conditions suited the more squat Batley pack to the rangy Dewsbury forwards .
Two year ago we were worse than that against Batley and beat them quite easily a few week later, so you never know.


We are not talking about last season mate that has gone. Batley have now 3 halfes that are suited to fast tracks, they have added other players who will add so much more pace to their game, like Johnson and hodgson from giants who are also suited to the harder ground. Flanagan back will add extra pace at the ruck.
Dewsbury could not break them down apart from a kick to the corner where a defender was out of position,and they offered very little else. as i said if Brambini was to pick up an injury you would be in real trouble. he is the only player who looks the slightest bit dangerous. As for two bobs if you think he is the answer.....hmmm.
Batley did not even play a number of key players for more than half an hour and still won at a canter as well as having tries chalked of and some last ditch defence by the rams. The fact is Jowett does not have the tools or knowledge to change the predictable game plan he sends your side into every game with and a long hard season is imminent if yesterday was anything to go by, although I am sure you will spring a few suprises along the way.

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Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 03:36

QUOTE (potato ram @ Jan 3 2011, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dewsbury were awful yesterday. But I can't belief nobody has mentioned how bad Two Bobs was. He looked very unfit or lame. Seemed like he was trying to play a halfback roll whilst the rest of the pack were struggling to get a foothold in the game


I saw Two Bobs chugging on a Super King walking out of the ground about half an hour after the game.

Saying that, he didn't look too unfit when he tried to start a fight with the last play of the game.

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Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 05:04

QUOTE (Bulldoggystyle @ Jan 3 2011, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We are not talking about last season mate that has gone. Batley have now 3 halfes that are suited to fast tracks, they have added other players who will add so much more pace to their game, like Johnson and hodgson from giants who are also suited to the harder ground. Flanagan back will add extra pace at the ruck.
Dewsbury could not break them down apart from a kick to the corner where a defender was out of position,and they offered very little else. as i said if Brambini was to pick up an injury you would be in real trouble. he is the only player who looks the slightest bit dangerous. As for two bobs if you think he is the answer.....hmmm.
Batley did not even play a number of key players for more than half an hour and still won at a canter as well as having tries chalked of and some last ditch defence by the rams. The fact is Jowett does not have the tools or knowledge to change the predictable game plan he sends your side into every game with and a long hard season is imminent if yesterday was anything to go by, although I am sure you will spring a few suprises along the way.


And what extensive coaching experiences have you been able to call upon in order to assess Jowitts credentials ?

I look forward to reviewing this and many other posts at the end of the season when the fruit of our respective teams labours are there for all to see.

Godd Luck for the new season, but dont kid yourself that this result is any sort of indication of what is in store over the next 8-10 months


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Posté 04 janvier 2011 - 07:56

QUOTE (John North @ Jan 4 2011, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And what extensive coaching experiences have you been able to call upon in order to assess Jowitts credentials ?

I look forward to reviewing this and many other posts at the end of the season when the fruit of our respective teams labours are there for all to see.

Godd Luck for the new season, but dont kid yourself that this result is any sort of indication of what is in store over the next 8-10 months



well said john,we played some realy good stuff 2nd half of last season and our tactics wer certainly not 1 man rugby,watch rams tvs trys of the season and youl soon see a host of setplays which warren introduced in his tactics as the season grew older which at the end of the season made us one of the top 3 form sides so warrens coaching and motivational skills cant be that bad especialy considerin wed lost 12 league games in a row at the start of last season the players never lost faith in the coach and the coach never lost faith in his players,at the end of the day yes we was utter rubbish sunday but it was our first pre season game
.pre season is pre season not the league,we obviously wont play that poor in attack all season,we had no luke blake yesterday and had young tonksy playin in that role most of the game,hes probs never played hooker in his pro career and was out of position so we missed the spark we had with young blakey but i do think we need another half back again or somebody like ed barber who helped take alot of pressure of dom brambani.i dont want to slate patch because is defence and goal kickin is realy solid but he asnt the spark or organisation of that off mennel handforth and moore,more of a loose forward if you ask me.

i agree rob roberts was rubbish and looked unfit and i also as i said last week think wer short at centre????

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Posté 05 janvier 2011 - 02:41

[quote name='DEWSBURY TIL I DIE' date='Jan 4 2011, 08:56 PM' post='2182479']
well said john,we played some realy good stuff 2nd half of last season and our tactics wer certainly not 1 man rugby,watch rams tvs trys of the season and youl soon see a host of setplays which warren introduced in his tactics as the season grew older which at the end of the season made us one of the top 3 form sides so warrens coaching and motivational skills cant be that bad

Like most people on both message boards, not a lot can be made of these friendlies. On the day Batley were more organised, had a bit more penetration, and certainly had more go-forward forwards, including the substitutes.
What I am finding hard to understand, hence the copying of the quote above, which I agree with,the 2nd half of the season was good for you, is WHY CHANGE IT??. Surely those plays bore fruit then, so why not now??. Is it due to different playing personnel? Or was it your coach not showing his hand?, or is it his tactics for this type of pitch. eg Heavy with a SLIGHT slope.

Good luck for the season ahead, even the Mickey Mouse Cup, which is great when you win it !!!.

ColinB.


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