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[Batley Bob]

If we go back 6 weeks , the RL told batley they couldnt register players , till our tax debt was zero , even tho we had got an arrangement , which HM customs and excise were happy with , yet Wakefield seem to have a debt thats been hanging over them for over 12 months now , yet we dont see them stopped from registering players , There is probably an explanation , if you can tell me please , as its lookin to me like championship clubs and super league clubs run under 2 different set of rules even tho we are all members of RL , which is surely not right

http://www.yorkshire...need.6682780.jp

Im not gettin at wildcats but at the RL , if they had been as scrupulious with wakey earlier , they might not be in this situation

Edited by Batley Bob, 08 January 2011 - 06:30 PM.

[HaroldShand]

If we go back 6 weeks , the RL told batley they couldnt register players , till our tax debt was zero , even tho we had got an arrangement , which HM customs and excise were happy with , yet Wakefield seem to have a debt thats been hanging over them for over 12 months now , yet we dont see them stopped from registering players , There is probably an explanation , if you can tell me please , as its lookin to me like championship clubs and super league clubs run under 2 different set of rules even tho we are all members of RL , which is surely not right

http://www.yorkshire...need.6682780.jp

Im not gettin at wildcats but at the RL , if they had been as scrupulious with wakey earlier , they might not be in this situation

Bob, the RFL stated shortly after our registration debacle that there was a different set of rules for SL clubs who owed money to HMRC. You're spot on though, this does reek of double standards. This bad smell is only going to get worse for clubs like ours though, especially with the announcement the RFL are making in March about the future of the league set-up below Super League. Franchising here we come, mark my words. Have a nasty suspicion that we are likely to find ourselves on the bottom rung of the ladder in coming seasons, with an all new franchised Championship consisting of Featherstone, Barrow, Sheffield, Toulouse, South Wales Scorpions, Halifax, Wakefield and Leigh, plus another couple of expansion clubs.

[Batley Bob]

ok , I missed that announcement Harold , what is the criteria that super league clubs run to then , bet thats interesting , not the criteria for a licence , the yearly criteria , as wakefield and crusaders obviously met the licence one , 3 years ago and that still allows them to get into financial difficulties

[oldrover]

If we go back 6 weeks , the RL told batley they couldnt register players , till our tax debt was zero , even tho we had got an arrangement , which HM customs and excise were happy with , yet Wakefield seem to have a debt thats been hanging over them for over 12 months now , yet we dont see them stopped from registering players , There is probably an explanation , if you can tell me please , as its lookin to me like championship clubs and super league clubs run under 2 different set of rules even tho we are all members of RL , which is surely not right

http://www.yorkshire...need.6682780.jp

Im not gettin at wildcats but at the RL , if they had been as scrupulious with wakey earlier , they might not be in this situation

what is it with these people at red hall. are they bullet proof? is there no way we can get them out?.

[Batley Bob]

This bad smell is only going to get worse for clubs like ours though, especially with the announcement the RFL are making in March about the future of the league set-up below Super League. Franchising here we come, mark my words. Have a nasty suspicion that we are likely to find ourselves on the bottom rung of the ladder in coming seasons, with an all new franchised Championship consisting of Featherstone, Barrow, Sheffield, Toulouse, South Wales Scorpions, Halifax, Wakefield and Leigh, plus another couple of expansion clubs.
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What seperates us from these clubs Harold , I would be interested as to why you would put Sheffield and Scorpions in before us

As we own our own ground which is up to a good standard

A good squad

A settled Management set up

[Chairman LMAO]

My money's still on a single Championship after restructure. I bloody hope so.

[Daniel]

My money's still on a single Championship after restructure. I bloody hope so.

+1

[Daniel]

If we go back 6 weeks , the RL told batley they couldnt register players , till our tax debt was zero , even tho we had got an arrangement , which HM customs and excise were happy with , yet Wakefield seem to have a debt thats been hanging over them for over 12 months now , yet we dont see them stopped from registering players , There is probably an explanation , if you can tell me please , as its lookin to me like championship clubs and super league clubs run under 2 different set of rules even tho we are all members of RL , which is surely not right

http://www.yorkshire...need.6682780.jp

Im not gettin at wildcats but at the RL , if they had been as scrupulious with wakey earlier , they might not be in this situation

Perhaps Wakefield aren't being allowed to register players, but they've chosen not to publicise the fact?

[HaroldShand]

This bad smell is only going to get worse for clubs like ours though, especially with the announcement the RFL are making in March about the future of the league set-up below Super League. Franchising here we come, mark my words. Have a nasty suspicion that we are likely to find ourselves on the bottom rung of the ladder in coming seasons, with an all new franchised Championship consisting of Featherstone, Barrow, Sheffield, Toulouse, South Wales Scorpions, Halifax, Wakefield and Leigh, plus another couple of expansion clubs.


What seperates us from these clubs Harold , I would be interested as to why you would put Sheffield and Scorpions in before us

As we own our own ground which is up to a good standard

A good squad

A settled Management set up

Bob, you're being a bit naive here mate. It doesn't matter whether we own our own ground or not, have a good squad or settled management, the whole concept of a Championship franchise system would be to create a second Super League, from which clubs could be readied for elevation to the top flight of the game. Sheffield would be dead certs as they play at a big football stadium and are practically the only professional representation the game has in South Yorkshire (bar Doncaster), and the Scorpions play in a development area that the RFL seems obssessed with. It doesn't matter what a good set-up we have at Batley, they wouldn't want us, or Dewsbury, or Hunslet etc... in a reformed, franchised Championship, as they wouldn't want us in Super League at any stage.
Of course, this is only speculative chit-chat at the moment, but I wouldn't be surprised if we were all stunned by a similar announcement in March. Look at the timing of this announcement for starters, its obvious they are cooking something up.

[Batley Bob]

Ahhh,I get it, your hinting at super league one and two , so promotion is back on between the two , but that means you would need a 10 team division that all meet the criteria of super league ,so they are ready to move up , do sheffield or scorpions have a 2500 average gate,how will the RFL get round that , I do know we are only speculating , but once you make it super league 2 the criterias need to be identical or else the transition from 2 to 1 will be just like now , only a certain few teams meeting it

Edited by Batley Bob, 09 January 2011 - 09:24 AM.

[Blind side johnny]

Correct me if I'm mistaken but aren't these decisions taken by the clubs' representatives rather than the RFL executive?

[nineoil]

Correct me if I'm mistaken but aren't these decisions taken by the clubs' representatives rather than the RFL executive?

Yes but are you forgetting that SL clubs have 2 votes to Championship clubs 1 vote ? Essentially it means that the fate of Championship clubs is decided by SL clubs and that cannot be right . Time and again SL clubs have been treated differently to those in the Championship .
The whole RL organisation should be swept away - Wood , Lewis et al are nothing short of a disgrace

[HaroldShand]

Ahhh,I get it, your hinting at super league one and two , so promotion is back on between the two , but that means you would need a 10 team division that all meet the criteria of super league ,so they are ready to move up , do sheffield or scorpions have a 2500 average gate,how will the RFL get round that , I do know we are only speculating , but once you make it super league 2 the criterias need to be identical or else the transition from 2 to 1 will be just like now , only a certain few teams meeting it

Bob, do you really believe that meeting the criteria that the RFL set out for those wishing to be awarded a franchie have ANY bearing on who they choose? The RFL have a track record of continually bending rules to fit their agenda - eg. Celtic Crusaders winning a franchise despite meeting very few of the criteria stipulations, the announcement that an overseas club can apply for a franchise on invitation even if they don't meet any of the criteria. This criteria rubbish, and the dreaded 'ticking a box' phrase are just a smokescreen to make it appear like the whole franchise process is fair and above board. Its blatantly not.