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[Gav]

The RLIF/RLEF really need to step in at the earliest opportunity to try and sort this out. The current situation is no good for anyone in the long run. Perhaps David Niu could be persuaded to take a step back, concentrate on running the international side of things and helping develop regional/state leagues. The USARL can then concentrate on running the National "semi-pro" league which the other leagues feed into.

[HappyDave]

I agree that Nui should run the US National team (agreeing that USARL players can be selected) & step down a CEO of the AMNRL. If Nui & Spinner could come to amicable agreement could the US end up have an RLIF recognised Umbrella Org (Federation/Association/Board) with 3 - 4 senior members from each organisation overseeing the 2 orgs & agreeing on decisions about the National squad? A bit like the NFL overseeing the 2 Conferences?

Edited by HappyDave, 17 January 2011 - 08:39 PM.

[Big Picture]

I agree that Nui should run the US National team (agreeing that USARL players can be selected) & step down a CEO of the AMNRL. If Nui & Spinner could come to amicable agreement could the US end up have an RLIF recognised Umbrella Org (Federation/Association/Board) with 3 - 4 senior members from each organisation overseeing the 2 orgs & agreeing on decisions about the National squad? A bit like the NFL overseeing the 2 Conferences?

It would be more like the US Soccer Federation which runs their national soccer teams where Major League Soccer just looks after its' own league. The NFL's 2 conferences aren't in any way separate organizations from it, they're just branches of that league.

[jannerboyuk]

Interesting to see that one of the tomahawks elite player camps is still set to take place in jacksonville.
http://www.wearerugb...layer-mini-camp

Edited by jannerboyuk, 24 January 2011 - 03:07 PM.

[deluded pom?]

Interesting to see that one of the tomahawks elite player camps is still set to take place in jacksonville.
http://www.wearerugby.com/news/articles/elite-player-mini-camp

Still set to happen in Jax and actually happening in Jax are two different things in the wonderful world of the AMNRL jb.

[jannerboyuk]

Denver Wolverines look to join the USARL after AMNRL 'withdraw support'! http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Denver-Rugby-League/138200839560666

[deluded pom?]

It would be interesting to know what the "support" was.

[druzik]

what I fond interesting here is that for some reason Spinner has been thrown in as the person leading the USARL.

Talking with many of the clubs involved, In fact he really had nothing to do with the split, it was actually a whole bunch of clubs that came together at their own instigation and talked about the issues at hand and all made the decision to send the letter and when no response was given to break away.

Spinner as far as I know is not going to take any role in running the USARL, he will concentrate on the Axemen and that's it. Why he is getting thrown in all this is strange.

[deluded pom?]

what I fond interesting here is that for some reason Spinner has been thrown in as the person leading the USARL.

Talking with many of the clubs involved, In fact he really had nothing to do with the split, it was actually a whole bunch of clubs that came together at their own instigation and talked about the issues at hand and all made the decision to send the letter and when no response was given to break away.

Spinner as far as I know is not going to take any role in running the USARL, he will concentrate on the Axemen and that's it. Why he is getting thrown in all this is strange.

Probably because, rightly or wrongly, Spinner has a higher profile in the RL world than anyone else involved in the USARL. People see him making posts and releasing statements about the USARL (as other teams have also done) and simply assume he must be one of the driving forces behind the USARL.

Edited by deluded pom?, 06 February 2011 - 09:06 AM.

[jannerboyuk]

Denver Wolverines have aligned with the USARL http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=138827972847130&id=138200839560666#!/pages/Denver-Rugby-League/138200839560666

[Maximus Decimus]

Denver Wolverines have aligned with the USARL http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=138827972847130&id=138200839560666#!/pages/Denver-Rugby-League/138200839560666

What does this mean for the numbers of teams in each respective league?

[jannerboyuk]

What does this mean for the numbers of teams in each respective league?

I think that puts the usarl at a nominal 10 clubs but don't think the wolverines are planning to play this year, like the seattle storm it's build the basics year which is sensible.

[jannerboyuk]

According to the USARL their players have been formally excluded from playing for the tomahwaks http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/USA-Rugby-League/174730202567002 personally i think the rlif should step in and say behave yerselves.

[deluded pom?]

According to the USARL their players have been formally excluded from playing for the tomahwaks http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/USA-Rugby-League/174730202567002

That's Jamaica as very firm favourites for the WC qualifiers then.

[jannerboyuk]

I had a very brief twitter chat with niu in reponse to his vague tweet about lies going round the world so i said 'great so the tomahwaks will be selected from the AMNRL and the USARL! Good to hear" and his response waS 'never heard of a usarl mate. The man is a petulant child and seems to be cracking under the pressure. More worrying is this post from the guy working to set up the seattle storm
http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?t=376741&page=2
"The split of AMNRL/USARL did not, in any way/shape/form, influence Seattle's decision to not join either entity. I think we have made that quite clear. Unfortunately, it seems it was taken as a personal sledge to Niu who has since ceased all contact which is extremely disappointing for us in the North West.
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[deluded pom?]

He's cut off his nose to spite his face. A lost opportunity (unless something drastic happens in the next six months) for the USA to qualify for the WC. This decision could set the game in the States back years.

[yanto]

"To give you some insight into player eligibility for the USA Tomahawks, it will be an obligation for all players to be registered with the AMNRL as a member of the league and/or affiliated with a club for the 2011 season. This player registration process is available to everyone."
Posted today

Edited by yanto, 15 February 2011 - 06:46 PM.

[jannerboyuk]

"To give you some insight into player eligibility for the USA Tomahawks, it will be an obligation for all players to be registered with the AMNRL as a member of the league and/or affiliated with a club for the 2011 season. This player registration process is available to everyone."
Posted today

Just saw that. Made me laugh the way it was worded - y'know just to give you an insight not for any particular reason or anything! Maybe someone can confirm but i'm sure the tomahawks had non-amnrl players for the tri-series in florida? Or did i get that wrong. Either way made up self-serving rules are just nonsense. Was that a decision of a board? is there a board? is there a constitution maybe? Reading all this stuff i'm surprised the USARL guys lasted as long as they did.

[Number 16]

The news from America just gets worse by the day. This issue needs to be a priority for the RLIF/RFL/AFL.

Does anyone have any insight into what these bodies are doing to resolve the situation?

[Phil]

you know ###### like this almost makes me wish I could just walk away from RL and not give a ######, but I can't 'cos its such an important part of my life and has been for most of it.

I just despair sometimes.