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#21 duffymoon

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 05:53 PM

Phil, stop making moutains again, let me tell you Phil Joseph was genuinely caught in traffic as I was stood talking to him so i'll vouch for him.

I also think Steve Mc has shown he has no problems in dealing with players by the way he has dealt with the PJ situation.



There could be any number of reasons why Phil Joseph "withdrew his aservices" .Doesnt Phil manage a nightclub? maybe the saturday timeing of the East Hull game wasnt conducive to his full time employment commitments who knows?

#22 Furryenzo

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 06:35 PM

I am also a Hawkyard fan but he was injured yesterday and the player that took his place (Mort) was exceptional so for me it would be wrong for Ritchie to jump straight back in at Morts expense.As regards the incident when Mort was "caught in the air,I didnt see it as a foul,Mort simply leapt higher than the worky players and landed on top of them.

Still cant understand why we are forced to stand behind the posts instead of in the shed.Doesnt look good on the Lions TV footage when all that can be seen is an empty terrace.


Sorry to say but I think your wrong there and bryce was spot on. I dont for one minute think it was a malicious tackle but Mort was tackled in the air and had his balancing act on the worky players shoulders not have been so impressive, could have been an awkward injury bound fall. Also no one is forcing you behind the posts, theres a perfectly good stand available for free. Opening other areas would call for more stewarding and would cause the 651 fans to be scattered around the ground as opposed to a concentrated area that makes enough noise to encourage the players.

However, agreed with all other comments, and credit to the workington defence! Very tough to break down.
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#23 Furryenzo

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 06:35 PM

I am also a Hawkyard fan but he was injured yesterday and the player that took his place (Mort) was exceptional so for me it would be wrong for Ritchie to jump straight back in at Morts expense.As regards the incident when Mort was "caught in the air,I didnt see it as a foul,Mort simply leapt higher than the worky players and landed on top of them.

Still cant understand why we are forced to stand behind the posts instead of in the shed.Doesnt look good on the Lions TV footage when all that can be seen is an empty terrace.


Sorry to say but I think your wrong there and bryce was spot on. I dont for one minute think it was a malicious tackle but Mort was tackled in the air and had his balancing act on the worky players shoulders not have been so impressive, could have been an awkward injury bound fall. Also no one is forcing you behind the posts, theres a perfectly good stand available for free. Opening other areas would call for more stewarding and would cause the 651 fans to be scattered around the ground as opposed to a concentrated area that makes enough noise to encourage the players.

However, agreed with all other comments, and credit to the workington defence! Very tough to break down.
Im only smiling because `no-one`'s found the bodies yet.

#24 JOHNNY83

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 06:54 PM

I was stood behind the "half wit" to whom you refer and some of the language comming out of his mouth would have made a sewer rat blush. ***t was aimed at one young lad on more than one ocassion,plus questioning the same lads mothers morals.

He even chose at one point to fire a volley at my lad who despite being a big lad for his age has only just turned 17,it wasn't done in a jokey manner but in a threatening one.

As for the toilet roll incident yes it was just a toilet roll but it could quite easily have been another misile and the stewards were right to evict him, after having spoken to him on more than a couple of times throughout the match.

I do question there worth as Workington fans when all afternoon there referance was to Man Utd....seems they may have attended the wrong sport.!!!


I definitely didnt hear him question anyones mothers morals! The only time (apart from the infamous toilet roll incident) the stewards
had to have a word with him was to tell him to stop having a game of passy with a rugby ball with 2 young local lads at HT! I know the 'half wit' in question and i dont think he would have meant any malice. I think it was a case of drink in wits out!

As for the toilet roll, you say it could of been another misile, it wasnt, IT WAS A TOILET ROLL!

#25 scott

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 09:13 PM

it was also over heard by other town supporters to watch the lads before they even entered the ground.

It wasn't that long ago since one of your supporters on the balcony at your old ground threw a pint over one of the town supporters head and he was only 8 at the time. he got put out of your ground he had been evicted from our ground twice.

the only thing they were doing was singing and having a laugh like at any other match they werent foul language has we were stood along from them.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 10:16 PM

Got to be honest when at Rochdale last wk
didnt hear any foul language heard plenty yeasterday away from home :blush:
so get some ear plugs and they like to insult the players too :angry2:
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Posted 14 March 2011 - 10:22 PM

Got to be honest when at Rochdale last wk
didnt hear any foul language heard plenty yeasterday away from home :blush:
so get some ear plugs and they like to insult the players too :angry2:


who likes to insult players too.

#28 marshy1

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 12:12 AM

I definitely didnt hear him question anyones mothers morals! The only time (apart from the infamous toilet roll incident) the stewards
had to have a word with him was to tell him to stop having a game of passy with a rugby ball with 2 young local lads at HT! I know the 'half wit' in question and i dont think he would have meant any malice. I think it was a case of drink in wits out!

As for the toilet roll, you say it could of been another misile, it wasnt, IT WAS A TOILET ROLL!

Not wishing to continue this post any further, all I will say is that both my son and I was stood right behind the lad involved and heard very clearly what was being said.!!

It is a fact of life that to many beers often affect decent people in strange ways.

#29 marshy1

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 12:12 AM

I definitely didnt hear him question anyones mothers morals! The only time (apart from the infamous toilet roll incident) the stewards
had to have a word with him was to tell him to stop having a game of passy with a rugby ball with 2 young local lads at HT! I know the 'half wit' in question and i dont think he would have meant any malice. I think it was a case of drink in wits out!

As for the toilet roll, you say it could of been another misile, it wasnt, IT WAS A TOILET ROLL!

Not wishing to continue this post any further, all I will say is that both my son and I was stood right behind the lad involved and heard very clearly what was being said.!!

It is a fact of life that to many beers often affect decent people in strange ways.

#30 lions4eva

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 02:38 AM

Reading this thread, it may escape those not in the know, we actually won....lets just talk about how we played, rather than whining about the stand/fans/stewards.

#31 scott

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 07:48 AM

Not wishing to continue this post any further, all I will say is that both my son and I was stood right behind the lad involved and heard very clearly what was being said.!!

It is a fact of life that to many beers often affect decent people in strange ways.


well i was standing just down and i heard everything.

#32 PhillH

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 08:25 AM

Phil, stop making moutains again, let me tell you Phil Joseph was genuinely caught in traffic as I was stood talking to him so i'll vouch for him.

I also think Steve Mc has shown he has no problems in dealing with players by the way he has dealt with the PJ situation.


Alan, just speculating as there has been no official word on what has happened with Phil Joseph resulting in his absence against East Hull and Workington. As Mark Richardson asks - what do you mean by "withdrew his services"?

Thanks for the information on Bruce Johnson. Is it still the bicep problem that has been troubling him for ages? Perhaps he needs to bite the bullet and have surgery if he wants to play again. Fact is Steve McCormack has a lot of good alternatives now. Sympathies go to Bruce as he has clearly played through injury to aid the cause of the Lions in the recent past and now the team has improved he has the talent to enjoy being part of a winning side if only this injury issue could be sorted out.

I agree that Steve McCormack is showing sound judgement in leadership, makes a refreshing change. It is key for team morale to have a coach that lives out good levels of professionalism himself and demands the same from the players, with a common standard applied fairly to all the players consistently. Else over time the guys who do pull their weight will get frustrated and demoralised. Phil Joseph was perhaps a shade unfortunate w.r.t. the Halifax game, but as a player the emphasis is on him to anticipate the possibility of heavy traffic, not exactly uncommon on a Friday night, and allow extra time. The coach simply had to take action, as where would we get to if a significant number of the other players follow Phil Joseph's example at future Friday night matches and also turn up late - it would be bedlam and definitely not a receipe for sucess in the matches themselves.
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#33 wayne_r

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 12:39 PM

Just to change tack a little - does anyone know if the Workington match will be put onto Lions TV / I could not go on Sunday and would have liked to have seen the match........in fact is theplan to show all home games ? Home and away games ?

#34 Bryce

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 01:05 PM

I was wondering the same, the East Hull highlights aren't on yet. Would really like to see that Wingfield try again from Sunday!

#35 Furryenzo

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 05:28 PM

Just to change tack a little - does anyone know if the Workington match will be put onto Lions TV / I could not go on Sunday and would have liked to have seen the match........in fact is theplan to show all home games ? Home and away games ?


Yes, starting to get concerned that were slipping before weve even got going, and you cant blame me after previous seasons!!! :unsure: I hope to see continued highlights throughout the season.

This being said the club could be excused for missing the east hull game due to the fact it was a cup match against lower opposition, on a Saturday, with a 1.45 kick off!
Im only smiling because `no-one`'s found the bodies yet.

#36 wayne_r

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 05:52 PM

Yes, starting to get concerned that were slipping before weve even got going, and you cant blame me after previous seasons!!! :unsure: I hope to see continued highlights throughout the season.

This being said the club could be excused for missing the east hull game due to the fact it was a cup match against lower opposition, on a Saturday, with a 1.45 kick off!


I just wondered if there were restrictions preventing the club showing league and challenge cup matches ? I know few years ago Sky effectively stopped Channel M showing matches ..........so instead we were treated to seeing academy matches between Salford and Wigan etc......




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