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[Keith T]

Another game of two halves from Town today. The first half was as bad as I've seen Town play for a long time and they deservedly went in 24 - 16 down and to be truthful lucky to be just 8 points down. Why, is the question every Town fan was asking? Do they take some of these teams for granted or what? Whatever the reason they certainly got their bottoms smacked for it today.

Second half with the wind behind them Town started to play as we all know they can and tightened up their defence to the extent that Scorpions were kept scoreless for the full 40 minutes. In the end Town were comfortable winners and it could have been even more comfortable with 3 tries disallowed, two of them by the touch judge after the ref was about to give the try.

We look a better team when we speed up the play and move the ball around but too often we play one man rugby and get drawn in to playing down the middle. Just once in the second half did we attempt a 40 / 20 kick with wind behind us and too many times took the wrong option. I still think we lack a leader on the park, someone to move us around and organise dummy runners , etc.

Still, a win is a win but hopefully the players will look at their own performances and think how good they can be if and when they get it right for 80 minutes.

[dkw]

The team should be embarrassed about that first half, from the 1st minute the majority of them looked like they couldnt be arsed, and it was easily the worst game Ive seen carter play for us. Some of our defending was appalling, for the first 40 they were once again out enthused, just like last week. We have the players and squad to do well in this league, but if they continue to play with the attitude they currently have then we will do sod all again. Maybe some of them need dropping to remind them their position is safe and they need to fight for it. I dont think I can remember being this angry after a victory before, I hope Charlo and Oggy beast them in training the next week or so and remind them they need to earn a place in the team.

[anok4u]

i think a lot of credit should go to south wales in that first half,they got in towns faces and didnt allow them to play they had some very useful players that i was very impressed with, in the end it was easy but it was made a lot easier by mattinson he was awesome today his running from dummy half was very very good well played him...one last thing in the first 20 minutes i think the backs ran the ball in more than the forwards it was in reverse when a forward ran a ball in it was to spell the backs off,very strange..

[bobg]

Not a very good first half today, got on top in the second and played some nice rugby, the problem for the first 15 mins was we did not have the ball and where put on the back foot by SW, Brett Carter looked too casual at times, but that is his style, he is a much player than we seen today. I was very impressed by SW loose forward and the left centre(Bateman). 2 very good players, for Town, Mattinson & Stack put in top performances.

[wonky]

We seemed to come out thinking we could run right over the top of Wales, and to be honest only jacko came out with any credit out of our props. Matty was our saviour and dragged us by the scruff of the neck at times. Low was impressive, as was stack. But that was about it really, carter had a nightmare, falling off tackles, dropping balls and generally very poor, which is very unusual from him, I just hope it was an off day and not him listening to the hype. 1st half our defence was shocking but credit to the lads,scoring 28 unanswered points was impressive. I still think we lack guidance and our kicking game is terrible. We will need to improve massively for when we play haven or they will bag bragging rights. But as is said, a sign of champions is when you perform poorly but still get the win. Well played lads

[homeandawayer]

The first half was dire ,the defensive decision making was appalling. I think for the second half we defended with the halfbacks outside the centre which i haven't been a fan of in the past, but Kaighan and Bamber are good tacklers and it worked. Kaighan hit their no.13 twice and forced him to knock on.

Surely we've got the best pack and hooker in the league and we're picking up bonus points and wins when we're playing badly so if we put it together it wouldn't take much to be top dogs in this league.

It was a good job Matty was out there today mind.

[TOWN TILL I DIE]

Thank god we turned that around today tht try right on the hooter by Gus was the key for the comeback, Carter was awful today think its time we tried John Lebbon at Gateshead? Crowd 376! not good at all very worrying

[anok4u]

you cant expect much more with the crowd with a 1 oclock kick off on mothers day with carlisle at wembley and on tv..

[rockerlad]

473 v Oldham 376 v Scorpions thats only a difference of 97, now to say monthers day and carlisle on tv put of a massive 97 well it dont look well for the rest of the season.

[Keith T]

You are busy tonight rockerlad posting the same message here and on Havens site!!! Thanks for your concern.

[rockerlad]

dont worry keith i have concern for all west cumbrian teams

[topladtownie]

473 v Oldham 376 v Scorpions thats only a difference of 97, now to say monthers day and carlisle on tv put of a massive 97 well it dont look well for the rest of the season.

It must be so good as a fan of such a well supported side as the Reds, to
have concerns for Town, what have your last four crowds been Rockerlad?
Oh well, I can tell you 348, 379, 389 & last game 314 v Corby. Maybe your
concerns would be better directed in that way.

Still maybe if the reds luddites had looked to the future and backed a plan to
get good facilities for both sides, then fans may have had a more positive outlook.

[Nero]

dont worry keith i have concern for all west cumbrian teams

I wouldn't worry about Speedway, they got more than 2000 on Saturday.

[homeandawayer]

That won't last long if the "racing" is like that every week at £17.50!

[Nero]

That won't last long if the "racing" is like that every week at £17.50!

Careful, you're starting to sound like a Whitehaven Fan.

[Keith T]

All joking aside lads but this is a problem now for Town and we need to be seen to be seriously addressing it. Okay it was Mothering Sunday and kicking off at 1pm wouldn't help or having Carlisle Utd on TV from Wembley may also have had an effect on the crowd but rockerlad is correct as we only got 473 last home match. So, what's the answer?

Without knocking anyone at the club we need to be hearing more good news and what we intend to do to raise the image of the club. What are we doing to promote the game in and around Workington? Have we any special offers for games coming up? I know we had reduced beer prices last year or the year before but that doesn't bring in the families just more drinkers.

We get the speedway rent which many say keeps us going but it has also been one of the reasons for our drop in crowds because more people attend that than our games. People with kids can't afford to go to both and bikes roaring round a track wins with the kids every time to a game of rugby. Speedway is also every week where we can go several weeks without a home game and so people get used to going to the speedway.

There is no sugar daddies (or mammies) or large industries offering sweeteners to the communtiy waiting in the wings for Town so we have to earn every penny we can from our own efforts. I don't know what our new Commercial Manager has planned but how about starting with the Good Friday game with half price admissions and kids under 16 free if accompanied by an adult. By all means go the whole hog and reduce beer prices as well and put entertainment on in the Derwent Lounge if it will attract more people but let's do something.

In 1997 when it looked likely that we were going out of business we got 11,000 names on a petition to the RFL (yes, I know many people signed more than once) but could we do that now? I have serious doubts that we could get just half of that total now

The players have a part to play in this as well for how many times in the past have we got a bit of interest in the club going and attract a few more down to the ground only for the players to put in their worst performance.

Same with the press who could be a bit more positive about the club. Today's headline in the N & S about Town is that we got out of jail which is probably correct BUT I dare to suggest that if that had been a Haven game the headline would have read something like "Brilliant fight back by Haven secures win". It is people who don't attend the games that we want to sell the club and the game to not those who were there and witnessed it for themselves.

Maybe it's time for a full re-appraisal of what we want to achieve at Town but standing there yesterday in a crowd of 357 (not 376 as previously stated) was depressing. Or maybe I'm just getting too long in the tooth!!!

[homeandawayer]

Careful, you're starting to sound like a Whitehaven Fan.

I'm deeply insulted

[Nero]

That won't last long if the "racing" is like that every week at £17.50!

I know what you mean though, I think it was down to the quality of the opposition rather than the Comets. But crowds like that will certainly have an effect on both the RL clubs I would think, especially at those prices.

[anok4u]

All joking aside lads but this is a problem now for Town and we need to be seen to be seriously addressing it. Okay it was Mothering Sunday and kicking off at 1pm wouldn't help or having Carlisle Utd on TV from Wembley may also have had an effect on the crowd but rockerlad is correct as we only got 473 last home match. So, what's the answer?

Without knocking anyone at the club we need to be hearing more good news and what we intend to do to raise the image of the club. What are we doing to promote the game in and around Workington? Have we any special offers for games coming up? I know we had reduced beer prices last year or the year before but that doesn't bring in the families just more drinkers.

We get the speedway rent which many say keeps us going but it has also been one of the reasons for our drop in crowds because more people attend that than our games. People with kids can't afford to go to both and bikes roaring round a track wins with the kids every time to a game of rugby. Speedway is also every week where we can go several weeks without a home game and so people get used to going to the speedway.

There is no sugar daddies (or mammies) or large industries offering sweeteners to the communtiy waiting in the wings for Town so we have to earn every penny we can from our own efforts. I don't know what our new Commercial Manager has planned but how about starting with the Good Friday game with half price admissions and kids under 16 free if accompanied by an adult. By all means go the whole hog and reduce beer prices as well and put entertainment on in the Derwent Lounge if it will attract more people but let's do something.

In 1997 when it looked likely that we were going out of business we got 11,000 names on a petition to the RFL (yes, I know many people signed more than once) but could we do that now? I have serious doubts that we could get just half of that total now

The players have a part to play in this as well for how many times in the past have we got a bit of interest in the club going and attract a few more down to the ground only for the players to put in their worst performance.

Same with the press who could be a bit more positive about the club. Today's headline in the N & S about Town is that we got out of jail which is probably correct BUT I dare to suggest that if that had been a Haven game the headline would have read something like "Brilliant fight back by Haven secures win". It is people who don't attend the games that we want to sell the club and the game to not those who were there and witnessed it for themselves.

Maybe it's time for a full re-appraisal of what we want to achieve at Town but standing there yesterday in a crowd of 357 (not 376 as previously stated) was depressing. Or maybe I'm just getting too long in the tooth!!!

At the start of the year Keith they will have worked the haven match as the match they defo make money on so to offer it at half price would be financial suicide far better me thinks is when the poster is uploaded on here all of us print a load of and pin them everywhere we can as soon as possable so it gets in peoples heads there is a match on..

[Keith T]

At the start of the year Keith they will have worked the haven match as the match they defo make money on so to offer it at half price would be financial suicide far better me thinks is when the poster is uploaded on here all of us print a load of and pin them everywhere we can as soon as possable so it gets in peoples heads there is a match on..

I appreciate your point anok4u but it's also no good offering cut price for lesser games. If you take our crowd against Oldham, 473, our best crowd, and add on say 150 from Haven you are looking at 650 - 700 maximum. With offers and cut prices on a Bank Holiday we could maybe almost double that which would bring in the same amount, through the gates, but the spin off is in bar takings and if people have enjoyed the game they could come next game. I have heard some people saying that £11 or £12, whichever it is, is too much for them to afford especially young family folk and we have to realise that we are in a competition with many other pastimes for peoples money, especially in the summer months. We are all diehards and will be there no matter but we have to also appreciate how others not so committed feel and think.