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[miaow]

after cahtting to a director very recently and asking why i should return to dp to which i wasnt given any inspiration i decided to listen at home cant deny sounds like physically the squad is progressing well it just seems we do not have the mental attribute to be able to comcentrate fully until the whistle has gone we need to get over this

[dkw]

They should be embarrassed by the way they lost the game today, and I am 50/50 as to whether I will bother going back this season. In fact if whitehead is even in the squad for the next game I will definitely not be going. He was atrocious today, some of these so called superstar players we have need to have a good hard look at themselves. I am absolutely sick of seeing us do this ######, any team that loses a game like that has major problems, not only the players but also the coaches. Something needs to change, and fast. We get told by Charlo that changes will happen, yet nothing does. The players should be made to read the comments on here to see just how angry, embarrassed and utterly sick of seeing dross like that.

[Derwent]

Any team with players as slow as McDonald, Whitehead and Holt is asking for trouble. I'd say 80% of the tries we concede come down the left side where Whitehead and Holt defend together. People say Holt is worth his place for his kicking but he gives more points away than he creates for us.

Any lingering hopes we had of going up this year were killed off today because to do anything in the play offs we need to finish 2nd or 3rd to have home games. That isn't going to happen now. Another false dawn for the 'good lads club' I'm afraid.

On another note, it was interesting that 4 of Doncaster's tries came from their recently signed dual reg players (Potts from Wakefield and Green from Hull). How come we have not used our supposed deal with HKR to bring any of their young promising lads in ?

[wonky]

I'm sorry mate we aren't progressing in any form, in fact I would say we've gone backwards from last year. All we have beaten this season is the teams in the bottom 4. We can't defend at all, and the coaches need to stand up and take the blame. How can they justify playing whitehead, he is a disgrace and misses more tackles than he makes. If he leads by example then my god were in trouble. Holt isn't much better in defence. And how young bamber can't get a shot is beyond me. When we played we ran riot, but we can't do anything for more than 20 mins per game. Why was Patrick dropped for miller who offered nothing at all today, none of the centres of wingers did. Carter played well, as did stack and jack pedley was head and shoulders above everyone else. But very little came from the rest. And after a great start to the season Matty has been very poor and he needs to start justifying the money we pay him. We can blame all the players(especially whitehead) but the buck has to stop at the 2 coaches who can't even keep a team motivated for 40 mins never mind 80. We keep talking about getting a championship spot, but can we honestly afford at least 18 new players because that is what it will take to compete as other than stack(who will be playing super league anyhow) and possibly peds,Patrick,Matty and kaighan then I think the rest will really struggle up there. We threw away a healthy lead to a mediocre team and the players shod be ashamed of them selves. I have better things to spend my cash on than that ###### and I bet I'm not the only one.

[Keith T]

Maybe today's humiliating defeat will bring it home to the board of directors that this squad is NOT as good as they think it is and that we have to go down the dual registration players route. I said this after the Rochdale game and it was more obvious today that we need fresh young blood in that will give their all for the team not just turn up and take the money.

Charlo said on the radio after the game that he wants players to be honest and admit their errors but what is the point of that if the same players continue to go on making the same errors in the next game??? Fans have been saying that having Whitehead and Holty together in defence is a recipe for disaster and other teams are picking up on it. The same as with Kaighan's often weak defence where they target.

Some of the defence today was non-existent and some of the senior players should be ashamed of their performances today and how ironic that the coach writing in the programme today said, "I'm sure our defensive play will have given you supporters a little concern, as we have played in some high scoring games lately."

We can talk forever more on here but unless the board, the coaches and the players, do something about the situation then we are doomed to be playing in next years Championship 1 along with Coventry Bears, Nottingham Outlaws, Hemel Hempstead, etc, in fact, like Derwent, I think we have just made it almost too difficult to escape. The crowd today was 544, an increase probably due to the signing of Dave Armistead, which should tell the club that people will come back if they see some progress being made to build a team capable of not only winning in this league but of holding their own in the league above.

I think we all need to start demanding more hoensty or else we will continue to provide more mediocre days like today and crowds dropping away totally.

Edited by Keith T, 29 May 2011 - 05:03 PM.

[wonky]

Keith I think the 1st person who needs to be honest with us and themselves is charlton himself, the players are not improving and some, like Matty, havE gone backwards and look uninterested in the game. And that is solely down to the coaches, haven built a team nearly from scratch this year and are head and shoulders better than we are. And thats down to better coaching and man management, and I'm personally dreading the end of the month when we visit the wreck

[bobg]

Something sadly wrong, the players with a few exceptions do not look interested. What has gone wrong, we have no chance of promotion now.

[ifyouonlyknew]

Never mind sure armi will enjoy his £500 a week regardless of result.oh and cresta is you new coach next season

Edited by ifyouonlyknew, 29 May 2011 - 05:39 PM.

[PLD]

They should be embarrassed by the way they lost the game today, and I am 50/50 as to whether I will bother going back this season. In fact if whitehead is even in the squad for the next game I will definitely not be going. He was atrocious today, some of these so called superstar players we have need to have a good hard look at themselves. I am absolutely sick of seeing us do this ######, any team that loses a game like that has major problems, not only the players but also the coaches. Something needs to change, and fast. We get told by Charlo that changes will happen, yet nothing does. The players should be made to read the comments on here to see just how angry, embarrassed and utterly sick of seeing dross like that.

I am the same in thinking DKW but more like 30/70%

I attended the meeting at the Washington Central the other week, heard all the right things from the people you stood up and talked.

At the end of the meeting I approached our Chairman about investing some money in the club (apart from the new lotto), he took my email address and said he would get back too me, when was that meeting? about 3 weeks ago? This gives me the message they really can't be arsed and just talk the talk. I had asked about investing my money in any shares available, even if there wasn't any available it would be nice to hear back from them and even possibly offer some other means of investing but no.

We are hosting a nines tournament soon, anyone else seen anything about it apart from this forum? Smacks of a tin pot outfit.

If the Chairman's worst fears come to bear (Championship 1 Rugby v Hemel Hemstead) it's only what the club deserves with the rugby played at the moment.

32-16 up with twenty minutes to go and to throw away the game is beyond me. Just before the feed to the scrum the Doncaster try scorer moved from the right hand side of the scrum to the left and his marker did not move leaving the over lap for him to score - simple stuff you see kids getting that kind of marking right.

Maybe two weeks will change my mind.

[wonky]

The sad thing is if you look at the table tonight. If we had won the game we would be 3rd with a game in hand. With the top 2 still to cone to town, but as it is were 5th with donny breathing down our necks and the dregs of the division below. And after watching that it's where we belong. If we can only beat skolars,Gateshead etc then we havent improved over the last 2-3 years at all

[griffin4]

I hope this haven fan is right saying cresta is our coach next year! I think its time for the two coaches to go now but it probably wont happen mid season. This the second season where town simply can't put in a good spell for more than 20 minutes at a time. This a lack of motivation and thats the coaches job. We have a fairly good squad and quite frankly they aren't peforming. As for having the best hooker outside super league well thats debatable at the moment coz we arent getting the best out of him.

[Keith T]

Keith I think the 1st person who needs to be honest with us and themselves is charlton himself, the players are not improving and some, like Matty, havE gone backwards and look uninterested in the game. And that is solely down to the coaches, haven built a team nearly from scratch this year and are head and shoulders better than we are. And thats down to better coaching and man management, and I'm personally dreading the end of the month when we visit the wreck

I did say everyone needs to be honest wonky and that includes the coaches. Haven have built a team from going in to administration, not scratch, as they only lost about 5 or 6 players as others were moving out before they went bust and I'm sure if we had a financial backer, as they and Barrow have, we would have been able to put out a stronger team. We have been penalised for trying to do things without going in to debt but I'm afraid that isn't working and showing a profit on the club accounts doesn't bring in crowds to raise money for better players.

[griffin4]

Keith we have a reasonably strong squad now but I'm afraid we have two coaches who clearly cant get the best out of it. Good spells of twenty minutes and then going to sleep is the same old story of the two seasons they have been in charge.

[wonky]

That's a bit of head in sand syndrome there Keith, we supposably took havens best player and they haven't got any major stars but play far quicker rugby than town do and are certainly better coached. On paper we have the better side, on the pitch it's a totally different story. As for Matty being the best hooker outside sl, he isn't even the best hooker we have, pedley is outplaying him every game

[dkw]

That's a bit of head in sand syndrome there Keith, we supposably took havens best player and they haven't got any major stars but play far quicker rugby than town do and are certainly better coached. On paper we have the better side, on the pitch it's a totally different story. As for Matty being the best hooker outside sl, he isn't even the best hooker we have, pedley is outplaying him every game

Every team we have played this season plays quicker rugby than us, and I include the welsh team and Gateshead in that.

[Keith T]

Keith we have a reasonably strong squad now but I'm afraid we have two coaches who clearly cant get the best out of it. Good spells of twenty minutes and then going to sleep is the same old story of the two seasons they have been in charge.

I am not disgreeing about the coaches as I also think they have taken us as far as they can BUT if our squad is as strong as you make out surely they themselves would be able to push themselves for 80 minutes and want to win the league, etc, etc.

If we accept that players have been going to sleep in matches for the past two years then surely we have the wrong players with the wrong attitude? I believe that it is easy money for some of the Town players as they pick themselves and pick their matches and that is something a good expertienced coach would have sorted by now.

[griffin4]

Yes I agree wonky pedley is our best hooker at the moment and I was glad to see him come on, but also it means we arent getin the best out of top hooker who has held his own among the best in the championship in the past. We tend to hear most our news first from haven fans and I hope that haven on this thread saying cresta being our coach next season is true. We need someone to get the best out of this squad

[dkw]

I wouldnt mind seeing Cresta at Town, a very good coach who would hopefully get more out of this mob than the current coaches. I doubt he would accept the attitudes of some of them either.

[griffin4]

Keith I said we have a "reasonably" strong squad. I'm not saying we are the strongest and with someone with a deeper knowledge of the game and better motivational skills we could be doing a lot better than this IMO.

[bomber is god]

where is our agression????? we are easy beats,just roll us over and tickle out bellys.absolute garbage today,only played for approx 25 mins,what a waste of time.