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[The Legend Killer(Hendy)]

The Barrow and District league is as competitive as it has been for some time this year and i feel (and i hope i'm wrong by the way) that now Askam & Millom first teams are no longer playing that this is going to cause some concern over the coming months, i noticed Millom beat Dalton saturday and that Ulverston were pushed by an Askam team that have struggled to put teams out this season.

[wooly]

I dont think there were any first teamers in Milloms side saturday Hendy, a lot of them were involved in county/GB games over the weekend. Cant see it affecting the A team much that the 1st team has finished, cant speak for Askam though

[egg on legs]

Millom are trying their very best not to pick any first teamers. To do so would be mad because we'd lose genuine a team lads and come march we wouldn't have an a team. Our first team coach has selected a squad of 18/19 lads who he sees as the first team and has specifically asked for them not to be involved in the a team. We had 35 at training last night and only 13 of them are playing sat, we have phoned a couple of lads up rather than take from first team squad. Saying that, we should still be stronger as we won't lose players to the first team every week to cover their injuries.
I wouldnt read anything into the dalton match. Dalton didn't have as strong a team as when they beat us a couple.of wks ago.

[wilso]

Askam had two players that have played 1st team playing last sat and both were on the bench and both only played for about 20min. The A team will continue with the same players as at the start of the season (injuries dependant!). There may be some players that have played 1st team once or twice playing but that is due to the 1st team having used over 28 different players mainly due to having an extremely high injury list (including 8 long term injuries), that along with miss communication is the main reason for cancellation of fixtures. So in short no cause for concern needed.....

[Pest]

Dalton v millom isnt much to go off as dalton did feild a weak side only having 12 myself john hill man 45+ n dog leg but their side was pretty much same i think as whn we plyed thm at home

[The Legend Killer(Hendy)]

Some really positive comments and i did not post the article to create an issue but there have been some really exciting results this season and it will really good if we get to the conclusion of the season with 2 or 3 teams in the mix for the league and the cups getting shared around a little

[old millom town]

dosent help when teams dont turn up tho hindpool cancel on us again even tho they dont have a 1st team fixture and still cant put a team out !!!!!

[shawy13]

dosent help when teams dont turn up tho hindpool cancel on us again even tho they dont have a 1st team fixture and still cant put a team out !!!!!

What do you mean Hindpool cancel on you again? We havent failed a fixture for a long time, at least 18 months and dont think we have ever not gone to Millom in the 14 years I have been playing open age. Some lads didnt want to go to Millom as you havent been to us for the past 3 seasons.

[egg on legs]

I've heard a lot about this "Millom haven't had a team to go to Hindpool for the last 3 years" ###### in the last couple of days, so I have checked the results/tables etc. From what I can see we beat Hindpool 52 24 (ish) at Hindpool in the league in 2008/9, I can't find a result for the match at Millom but I think this was the year before Gregga took charge of the fixtures and the league never actually gave us the match to play. Check the forum around these dates and you'll prob confirm this.

The 2009/10 results show that Millom were given 18-0 results for the home and away league matches. This does not indicate that it was Millom who failed to raise an A team. We also had Hindpool at home in the preliminary round of the Harry Warman cup and they failed to raise a team for this match.

I haven't got any results etc for last year and I do think that at some point we failed to raise a team to go to Hindpool last season but can't confirm it. Anyone who has the details please confirm.

I don't mind clubs not getting an A team at times, but I've heard that Hindpool have been slagging Millom off for not getting an A team to go to Hindpool for the last 3 years, you should check the facts before gobbing off.

Ce message a été modifié par egg on legs - 18 novembre 2011 - 09:52 .

[quin13]

I've heard a lot about this "Millom haven't had a team to go to Hindpool for the last 3 years" ###### in the last couple of days, so I have checked the results/tables etc. From what I can see we beat Hindpool 52 24 (ish) at Hindpool in the league in 2008/9, I can't find a result for the match at Millom but I think this was the year before Gregga took charge of the fixtures and the league never actually gave us the match to play. Check the forum around these dates and you'll prob confirm this.

The 2009/10 results show that Millom were given 18-0 results for the home and away league matches. This does not indicate that it was Millom who failed to raise an A team. We also had Hindpool at home in the preliminary round of the Harry Warman cup and they failed to raise a team for this match.

I haven't got any results etc for last year and I do think that at some point we failed to raise a team to go to Hindpool last season but can't confirm it. Anyone who has the details please confirm.

I don't mind clubs not getting an A team at times, but I've heard that Hindpool have been slagging Millom off for not getting an A team to go to Hindpool for the last 3 years, you should check the facts before gobbing off.

Results from last season were as follows
Millom 18-14 Hindpool
You didn't turn up to play at our place.
The last time you came to us was in the 2008/09 season.

Ce message a été modifié par quin13 - 18 novembre 2011 - 11:28 .

[shawy13]

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I don't mind clubs not getting an A team at times, but I've heard that Hindpool have been slagging Millom off for not getting an A team to go to Hindpool for the last 3 years, you should check the facts before gobbing off.

You might be right about a Harry Warman game I honestly cant remember but the fact is we dont have a side which is pretty rare of late. Not been slagging Millom off at all, always enjoyable games even when we get hammered. The fact that the 1st team is off is irrellevant as that was called off after the decision was made to cancel the A team. We got the usual lads working and what not and another 12 on a stag do. We aint the first team to call a game off and we wont be the last, every team does it including Millom.

[egg on legs]

I wasn't commenting on this weekend, as you say everybody struggles to get an A team out at times. Just wanted to set the record straight about millom not going to hindpool.

[insomniac1]

Some really positive comments and i did not post the article to create an issue but there have been some really exciting results this season and it will really good if we get to the conclusion of the season with 2 or 3 teams in the mix for the league and the cups getting shared around a little

Your right there has been some good games,just wonder if clubs will stick with A team players at the end off the season when the finals,play offs are on.Seem to remember Walney played a few 1st teamers last season when there 1st team had no game.This made a difference in the games against Millom whos 1st team still had important games ,so couldnt play any 1st teamers.Think most clubs play some when 1st team has a week off.So if Millom or Askam do carnt realy complain unless you stick with with this A teamers only.

[Cents]

Your right there has been some good games,just wonder if clubs will stick with A team players at the end off the season when the finals,play offs are on.Seem to remember Walney played a few 1st teamers last season when there 1st team had no game.This made a difference in the games against Millom whos 1st team still had important games ,so couldnt play any 1st teamers.Think most clubs play some when 1st team has a week off.So if Millom or Askam do carnt realy complain unless you stick with with this A teamers only.

Walney did use a few 'first' teamers towards the end of last season but i can assure you that every 'A' teamer was asked to play before a 'first' teamer was selected, at no point during last season did an 'A' teamer get dropped for a 'first' teamer.

[The Legend Killer(Hendy)]

Walney did use a few 'first' teamers towards the end of last season but i can assure you that every 'A' teamer was asked to play before a 'first' teamer was selected, at no point during last season did an 'A' teamer get dropped for a 'first' teamer.

This was the fault of the league as they give us something like 6 games in 22 days including 3 finals in 7 days we had players busted up i played 2 games with busted ribs,like paul has said we did use first teams lads if we did not we would not of had a team due to injuries.

Ce message a été modifié par The Legend Killer(Hendy) - 21 novembre 2011 - 09:32 .

[The Legend Killer(Hendy)]

I spoke with one very unhappy Barrow Island player on saturday night who played against an Askam team full of first team players, the individual has told me he was that upset over the whole thing that he has now packed in playing, this is what i was on about when i started the thread.

Ce message a été modifié par The Legend Killer(Hendy) - 21 novembre 2011 - 09:36 .

[old millom town]

our 1st team has finished and our last training session b4 the game against hindpool last week we had 35 lads training out of that 35 i struggled to put 13 names on the team sheet for the hindpool game !!! so we def aint playing 1st team lads on a different subject tho our 16s have also struggled this year we have about 8 regular lads which aint enough to field a side i have mentioned this b4 i think we have to start letting these lads play a team at 16 in the barrow and district there seems to be this rule they have to be 16 and left school can someone one confirm this is just a barrow and district rule or not it isn`t a barla rule because i have checked the barle handbook and the rules online state that you have to have attained the age of 16 to play open age rugby and not have an u16 team in your club if this is the law where does this " left school~" rule come into it ???? said it once and will say it again these lads are the future of the game and of many local clubs we need these lads to be playing it would fill in the gaps in the a teams and if as many of our local sides are struggling for numbers in the a teams and the 16s then it makes sense to put the 2 together i for one would rather see these lads play with some more experienced lads than a load of has beens struggling for breath and playing on one leg !!! if not we are will lose these players to something else b4 they have " left school " !!!!

[The Legend Killer(Hendy)]

our 1st team has finished and our last training session b4 the game against hindpool last week we had 35 lads training out of that 35 i struggled to put 13 names on the team sheet for the hindpool game !!! so we def aint playing 1st team lads on a different subject tho our 16s have also struggled this year we have about 8 regular lads which aint enough to field a side i have mentioned this b4 i think we have to start letting these lads play a team at 16 in the barrow and district there seems to be this rule they have to be 16 and left school can someone one confirm this is just a barrow and district rule or not it isn`t a barla rule because i have checked the barle handbook and the rules online state that you have to have attained the age of 16 to play open age rugby and not have an u16 team in your club if this is the law where does this " left school~" rule come into it ???? said it once and will say it again these lads are the future of the game and of many local clubs we need these lads to be playing it would fill in the gaps in the a teams and if as many of our local sides are struggling for numbers in the a teams and the 16s then it makes sense to put the 2 together i for one would rather see these lads play with some more experienced lads than a load of has beens struggling for breath and playing on one leg !!! if not we are will lose these players to something else b4 they have " left school " !!!!

I was talking to luppy saturday night in Barrow he told me that Murry does not want lads playing A team. I TOTALLY AGREE with you on the 16 year olds playing as long as there looked after or you may loose them to RU or football.

[wilso]

I spoke with one very unhappy Barrow Island player on saturday night who played against an 'Askam team full of first team players', the individual has told me he was that upset over the whole thing that he has now packed in playing, this is what i was on about when i started the thread.

Total not true! firstly barrow island only had 13 players which obviously didnt help them, secondly askam had 4 players that have played more than 5 1st team games but also played for the a team at the start of the season. one of these players was playing his 2nd game after breaking his ankle and another player was making his comeback after breaking his arm. askam 1st team have used 36 players this year so obviously there will be players playing in the a team that have played 1st team. the a team will obviously be stronger because the first team will not be drafting players into the squad. also at askam we don't label players as '1st' or 'a' team players, everyone trains together and both teams use the same game plan and philosophy's. players are selected for the 1st team based on training and form, not name or repuation!
However as i've said before only players that have played a team will be available to play for the a team for the rest of the season. i hope the following player information puts this debate to bed;

2011 Askam 1st team name and appearances:
Alexander J - 9 Blythe R - 2 Bolton G - 8 Bolton M - 2 Bolton R - 13 Bolton S - 1 Brailsford A - 12 Broadley C - 1 Broadley S - 6 Butler R - 2 Butler T - 5 Coates G - 1 Cokayne R - 10 Dowsett J - 13 Dowsett Sam - 7 Dowsett Scott - 4 Duerden J - 11 Galloway J - 3 Gazkell D - 13 Holmes T - 10 Holloway L - 6 Hopkins T - 11 Jackson A - 11 Lewney B - 9 Marshall R - 3 New J - 2 Norman K - 9 Posselthwaite S - 1 Richards G - 3 Richards M - 1 Shaw T - 5 Shepherd S - 1 Tyson D - 1 Tyson K - 5 Tyson M - 13 Vanstone C - 14 Wilson M - 10


Bold indicates players that have not played a team and will not be available to play a team for the remainder. players that have played over 7 games for the 1st team but also have played a team will be only selected if needed

[polo_rp]

The Barrow and District rule is that open age players must be 16 and have finished secondary school

our 1st team has finished and our last training session b4 the game against hindpool last week we had 35 lads training out of that 35 i struggled to put 13 names on the team sheet for the hindpool game !!! so we def aint playing 1st team lads on a different subject tho our 16s have also struggled this year we have about 8 regular lads which aint enough to field a side i have mentioned this b4 i think we have to start letting these lads play a team at 16 in the barrow and district there seems to be this rule they have to be 16 and left school can someone one confirm this is just a barrow and district rule or not it isn`t a barla rule because i have checked the barle handbook and the rules online state that you have to have attained the age of 16 to play open age rugby and not have an u16 team in your club if this is the law where does this " left school~" rule come into it ???? said it once and will say it again these lads are the future of the game and of many local clubs we need these lads to be playing it would fill in the gaps in the a teams and if as many of our local sides are struggling for numbers in the a teams and the 16s then it makes sense to put the 2 together i for one would rather see these lads play with some more experienced lads than a load of has beens struggling for breath and playing on one leg !!! if not we are will lose these players to something else b4 they have " left school " !!!!