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[dogbulls]

Well well, surprised at this result??

Dewsbury seem to have the complete team from defence to attack, batley just didn't come to the party today!!

Batley have the quality in the team just couldn't pull anything off today! Ben black needs to learn how to tackle! Great defence from danny maun, baz ran well!

Hopefully JK will gel this team before the season starts

[marko]

I know it was only a pre season game,but Dewsbury looked a well organised team and well deserved the win.

[silverback]

within the first 10 minutes you knew dewsbury were going to win,they were throwing the ball about and looked like they wanted to win, dont who brought mr jowwit a new tactics book for christmas but it sure worked well and gone is the predictable dews sets.they were at us all game and to be fair played some real good to watch rugby. plenty of support and players running both sides a play, i were talking to danny sams last night and he did mention the training is spot on up at the teabag stadium and things were very confidant all way thru the squad. we looked lost and playing too much one man stuff,how the hell kegan hirst gets a shirt is beyound me as my grandad could make more yards with his gammy knees, first tackle he were laid on his backside by smallest man on park and he should be unstoppable in the 10 yards box with ball in hand,weres stenny and tommy gally as they were half his size and 10 times the player, a few of our lads had bad games and far too many silly penaltys given away in wrong areas, lad in red scrumcap looked good for us and tackled above his size but the likes a a preecie wally ash dident seem interested at all, lythsy played well and baz were tops,jc made plenty a yards but accross pitch not forward, and flanny sure made his mark with a try and some great tackles too saving 2 of ours, i think it were more of a run out to see whos who for jk but you have to hand it to dewsbury they have lifted the bar and look quality with only an handfull of players joining them while we looked to be lost with so many star players on the pitch.

[il cattivo]

One things for sure,preece isn't a centre.also Ben black can't tackle and keegan Hirst shouldn't play much this year.

[Gary Coyle]

Black could never tackle and spent most of his time in a Halifax shirt in the centres when defending

[il cattivo]

Black could never tackle and spent most of his time in a Halifax shirt in the centres when defending

Fair enough,but he didn't make up for it on attack.but to be fair no one did

[GuyDinlite]

Very dissappointed today - but doesnt mean anything and it's really foolish to give any criticism to the players based on one game. I am sure we will be much much better than that in the season!

[dogbulls]

Let's hope!!

[kiwityke]

Well well, surprised at this result??

Dewsbury seem to have the complete team from defence to attack, batley just didn't come to the party today!!

Batley have the quality in the team just couldn't pull anything off today! Ben black needs to learn how to tackle! Great defence from danny maun, baz ran well!

Hopefully JK will gel this team before the season starts

What was the result?????????????

[S.T.R]

What was the result?????????????

28 : 6

[Chairman LMAO]

28-6. How the hell we managed to get six on the back of that performance is beyond me. No credit should be taken away from Dewsbury, who were very solid and considerably less predictable than usual but I thought Batley (Campbell, Maun and Smith excepting) were absolutely atrocious. A sure sign things aren't right was the number of times under the high ball where two players were under it at the same time. No cohesion, no creativity, no idea.

[S.T.R]

Very dissappointed today - but doesnt mean anything and it's really foolish to give any criticism to the players based on one game. I am sure we will be much much better than that in the season!

can`t believe you have posted this
granted it doesn`t mean anything, but surely there were lads on the park who were playing for shirts today
Batley had no leadership from the halfbacks, only Smith looked interested in the forwards
His holyness johnny no neck has got some work to do

[Chairman LMAO]

can`t believe you have posted this
granted it doesn`t mean anything, but surely there were lads on the park who were playing for shirts today
Batley had no leadership from the halfbacks, only Smith looked interested in the forwards
His holyness johnny no neck has got some work to do

It's rare I agree with you, but I do on this one. You're absolutely right ... JK has already stated everyone will get a chance to prove themselves in our pre-season games. Well, only 3 or 4 people have pencilled themselves in for a shirt at Keighley in the NRC based on today's performance. I was sat 5 or 6 seats away from JK in the second half, he looked furious that a gameplan was quite clearly not being executed properly on the pitch. The players who had the passion out there today were the ones it meant something to - i.e. Preecey, Mauny and the skipper, the others didn't seem to tune into the passion of the derby and that was reflected in the scoreline. We had nothing in the centre of the park today and it really showed up big time.

On a separate note, Faal was immense today. Absolutely bossed that game. I had to laugh when Fozzard was named MoM - was that to boost his confidence?!!

[GuyDinlite]

can`t believe you have posted this
granted it doesn`t mean anything, but surely there were lads on the park who were playing for shirts today
Batley had no leadership from the halfbacks, only Smith looked interested in the forwards
His holyness johnny no neck has got some work to do

Remind me of this after ten league games!! STR??? mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Sometimes Talks Rubbish??

[distantdog]

can`t believe you have posted this
granted it doesn`t mean anything, but surely there were lads on the park who were playing for shirts today
Batley had no leadership from the halfbacks, only Smith looked interested in the forwards
His holyness johnny no neck has got some work to do

I agree with you totally, but unfortunately I don't think JK does, as he had already stated in the press that results do not matter. Well i think results do not matter as long as performances are there, which they weren't.

My thoughts on the match, for what they are worth are, first 15-20 minutes nothing in it, mainly due to the fact our forwards competed. I know they have their critics, but I believe that when both Potter and Smith are on the pitch we are far more effective. If people believe we signed Black for his tackling then they are deluded. When we are defending he just needs to be out of the way! I thought Black did ok, and he did create three clear chances in the first ten minutes of the second half which we did not take. I thought Walker did ok defensively when he came on, but not convinced about Palfrey, what is wrong with Preece at full-back, he just is not a centre. I was impressed by Fisher when he came on too, lots of work, and showed some speed about the play the ball.
Trouble started when we began to chop and change. For me, we just used far too many players and it showed! We looked like we had just met, which effectively, in playing terms, we just had.

Dewsbury were good, I was impressed. Fozzard for MOM was a joke, Faal was really impressive, and their forwards played really well. Good luck to them. When did they change their coach?

Anyway, at least JK knows what he is working with now and let's hope he can get us sorted.

[DOGFATHER]

One things for sure,preece isn't a centre.also Ben black can't tackle and keegan Hirst shouldn't play much this year.

100% agree

Negatives:
Black looked like he couldn't tackle a good dinner and looked very rusty.
I like Preece but he had a shocker yesterday and IMO his game didn't improve even when he reverted to FB.
The 2 stooges we signed from across the valley confirmed my suspicions, Hirst is as mobile as Geoff Grayshon at the end of his career and Menzies isn't good enough either. It was noticeable when we took the starting props off, our go forward stopped. Potter still seemed to be ambling in too much for my liking too, but he was an improvement over the 2 just mentioned.
Santa forgot to bring Walton the pair of Velcro gloves he so desperately needs again this year.
It doesn't matter who coaches us, we still haven't learned that when the ref allows both teams to play off side, we need to stand deeper in attack to ensure we are not forced in to throwing forward or suicidal hospital passes. We still have the old Batley trait of standing on the try line whilst defending our line rather than moving up, then wondering why the opposition have scored.

Positives:
I thought Campbell, Fisher and Potts looked dangerous, we really need to back Fisher up though.
Walker put some big hits in defence.
Maun and Smith looked solid.
The little guy who came on late in the game looked to have a good pair of hands.
We have Applegarth and Frodsham to come in hopefully.

I have never liked going in to games, with "it's only a friendly", or the attitude of "results don't matter". It is true, it was a meaningless match in terms of the season, but winning is a habit and a state of mind, IMO go out as though it is a competitive match try different things and combinations out sure, but winning games is important preparation.

Edited by DOGFATHER, 27 December 2011 - 09:09 AM.

[buford t justice]

Campbell and smith only ones who came out with any credit.

After all the hype and positivity since JK arrived i was expecting far more and we looked a million miles away from where we should be at this stage, if the way Dewsbury played was anything to go by.

Jason Walton still cant catch.

We have no pace or cutting edge in the centres.

We need a stand off. Mennell looks like hes carrying on his dreadful form from last year.

That said it was only a friendly so hope things improve once the team gels more.

Edited by buford t justice, 27 December 2011 - 10:44 AM.

[il cattivo]

100% agree

Negatives:
Black looked like he couldn't tackle a good dinner and looked very rusty.
I like Preece but he had a shocker yesterday and IMO his game didn't improve even when he reverted to FB.
The 2 stooges we signed from across the valley confirmed my suspicions, Hirst is as mobile as Geoff Grayshon at the end of his career and Menzies isn't good enough either. It was noticeable when we took the starting props off, our go forward stopped. Potter still seemed to be ambling in too much for my liking too, but he was an improvement over the 2 just mentioned.
Santa forgot to bring Walton the pair of Velcro gloves he so desperately needs again this year.
It doesn't matter who coaches us, we still haven't learned that when the ref allows both teams to play off side, we need to stand deeper in attack to ensure we are not forced in to throwing forward or suicidal hospital passes. We still have the old Batley trait of standing on the try line whilst defending our line rather than moving up, then wondering why the opposition have scored.

Positives:
I thought Campbell, Fisher and Potts looked dangerous, we really need to back Fisher up though.
Walker put some big hits in defence.
Maun and Smith looked solid.
The little guy who came on late in the game looked to have a good pair of hands.
We have Applegarth and Frodsham to come in hopefully.

I have never liked going in to games, with "it's only a friendly", or the attitude of "results don't matter". It is true, it was a meaningless match in terms of the season, but winning is a habit and a state of mind, IMO go out as though it is a competitive match try different things and combinations out sure, but winning games is important preparation.

as you say hirst is IMO the worst signing we have made.goodness knows why we have signed him.i hope frodsham and applegarth(if he's still at the club) get fit soon.also,apart from the fluffed clearance for spicer's try,was mennell actually playing??? i think ben fisher will make a lot of opportunities at this level but we need the players to realise that.we've also have been crying out for a decent centre for 3 years now ever since kevin king left and we need one this season.BUT its only one game and hopefully JK and the players will respond and improve.

[grumpyoldram]

I agree with you totally, but unfortunately I don't think JK does, as he had already stated in the press that results do not matter. Well i think results do not matter as long as performances are there, which they weren't.

My thoughts on the match, for what they are worth are, first 15-20 minutes nothing in it, mainly due to the fact our forwards competed. I know they have their critics, but I believe that when both Potter and Smith are on the pitch we are far more effective. If people believe we signed Black for his tackling then they are deluded. When we are defending he just needs to be out of the way! I thought Black did ok, and he did create three clear chances in the first ten minutes of the second half which we did not take. I thought Walker did ok defensively when he came on, but not convinced about Palfrey, what is wrong with Preece at full-back, he just is not a centre. I was impressed by Fisher when he came on too, lots of work, and showed some speed about the play the ball.
Trouble started when we began to chop and change. For me, we just used far too many players and it showed! We looked like we had just met, which effectively, in playing terms, we just had.

Dewsbury were good, I was impressed. Fozzard for MOM was a joke, Faal was really impressive, and their forwards played really well. Good luck to them. When did they change their coach?

Anyway, at least JK knows what he is working with now and let's hope he can get us sorted.

It irks me to death that successive coaches - both for Dewsbury and Batley, start off the pre - season hostilities by playing down the importance of this match. In the local rags, both Kear and jowett more or less intimated that the fixture was nothing more than an inconvenience designed to disrupt the preparation of the players, but they are WRONG. OK, you can not read much into the Boxing day results, but the coaches should appreciate that to the supporters, the result and the performance do matter, and the match does much more than just provide much needed early revenue for the clubs. For instance, those of us who take uncommited friends and family to the match, do so in the hope of converting them to the cause (actually successfully on one occasion a few years back)- but how can you win them over if your team hasn't bothered to turn up ?. The result can also, for some of us, be the making or breaking of the Christmas holiday, and it wounds me deeply when the club coach suggests I should turn up on the day with my hard earned entrance fee, but not to expect too much, as the match amounts to little more than a training exercise. The old winter encounters were always blood and guts affairs, and I would like that spirit kept alive, because the BD matches may not be significant, but they sure as hell are important - let's hope that next year, just for a change, BOTH teams turn up with intent.

[LINNERS]

It irks me to death that successive coaches - both for Dewsbury and Batley, start off the pre - season hostilities by playing down the importance of this match. In the local rags, both Kear and jowett more or less intimated that the fixture was nothing more than an inconvenience designed to disrupt the preparation of the players, but they are WRONG. OK, you can not read much into the Boxing day results, but the coaches should appreciate that to the supporters, the result and the performance do matter, and the match does much more than just provide much needed early revenue for the clubs. For instance, those of us who take uncommited friends and family to the match, do so in the hope of converting them to the cause (actually successfully on one occasion a few years back)- but how can you win them over if your team hasn't bothered to turn up ?. The result can also, for some of us, be the making or breaking of the Christmas holiday, and it wounds me deeply when the club coach suggests I should turn up on the day with my hard earned entrance fee, but not to expect too much, as the match amounts to little more than a training exercise. The old winter encounters were always blood and guts affairs, and I would like that spirit kept alive, because the BD matches may not be significant, but they sure as hell are important - let's hope that next year, just for a change, BOTH teams turn up with intent.

I usually go every year but decided to go watch some football instead. If their not bothered then I'm not bothered.