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[bowes]

Fryston Warriors 44-18 Skirlaugh Bulls

Normanton Knights A 34-24 York Acorn A

[TheDuke]

Skirlaugh have now returned to the hull league after a shambolic season in the summer league, dudley hill not turning up twice amongst others not prepared to travel to hull which is a shame when the club spent thousands traveling to west yorkshire

[bowes]

West Hull and Hull Dockers did as well and even Scarborough Pirates! Any idea if East Hull are following suit?

Can't fault your decision even though ideally reserves should play with the first team. Maybe you can have a Hull mini league in summer so you still have reserves then?

Edited by bowes, 30 September 2012 - 09:30 AM.

[TheDuke]

they may play friendlies

given the fact east hull had 4 at training on tuesday and didnt train thursday then its not looking like they will have a second team

[bowes]

Shame about Loko's a good set of lads and seemed to be going in the right direction, again I'm sure the NCL moving to the summer will have played it's part.

York Lokomotive have said they'll be back next year. But expect it will be in a lower division as their reason for pulling out was the simultaneous hit of losing players to other clubs, sporadic fixtures and having to play NCL first teams when they don't have a game. If they went back to playing Leeds Akkies etc wouldn't be so bad IMO provided enough of those sort of clubs are still about.

[Marauder]

York Lokomotive have said they'll be back next year. But expect it will be in a lower division as their reason for pulling out was the simultaneous hit of losing players to other clubs, sporadic fixtures and having to play NCL first teams when they don't have a game. If they went back to playing Leeds Akkies etc wouldn't be so bad IMO provided enough of those sort of clubs are still about.

What you mean is the other clubs players stopped faithful to their club.

[bowes]

What you mean is the other clubs players stopped faithful to their club.

Yes so they're left with the 30 players that were their own.

[Marauder]

Yes so they're left with the 30 players that were their own.

Bowes have you ever played against them, have you been there on match day when they have signed another six players on from the Acorn club, have you talked to the players after the game about who they normally play for? "NO" WOW I have.

[bowes]

Bowes have you ever played against them, have you been there on match day when they have signed another six players on from the Acorn club, have you talked to the players after the game about who they normally play for? "NO" WOW I have.

Clearly they don't have Acorn players this year. But that is why they were a lower standard. By the sounds of it they had players from RU and soccer which would suggest a full season isn't an option.

[Marauder]

Clearly they don't have Acorn players this year. But that is why they were a lower standard. By the sounds of it they had players from RU and soccer which would suggest a full season isn't an option.

I said when the NCL 1st went summer that most short season summer clubs would fold or struggle, I suspect that any NEAB players they may have had will have gone back for pre-season as well.

[bowes]

I said when the NCL 1st went summer that most short season summer clubs would fold or struggle, I suspect that any NEAB players they may have had will have gone back for pre-season as well.

Fair though as clubs shouldn't rely on other clubs' players.

[Marauder]

Fair though as clubs shouldn't rely on other clubs' players.

It's ok saying that now but how did Coventry start? What the RFL should have done if they really wanted to expand the game instead of just ripping the heart out of BARLA was to run the short season during the summer and encourage them to build (like Hemel) to prepare them to move into a full season in the winter, this wouls allow those who want to double up on their seasons to either play in a summer RLC club or step up to a Championship `A` team.

[bowes]

It's ok saying that now but how did Coventry start? What the RFL should have done if they really wanted to expand the game instead of just ripping the heart out of BARLA was to run the short season during the summer and encourage them to build (like Hemel) to prepare them to move into a full season in the winter, this wouls allow those who want to double up on their seasons to either play in a summer RLC club or step up to a Championship `A` team.

Doubling up seasons never worked. We would have folded if we hadn't cleared out the vast majority of the RU players. Plenty of clubs want a full summer season. You can't ban York Acorn from playing summer purely so another club can borrow their players. Why don't we make Marauders play summer so Doncaster Toll Bar are stronger in winter?

There's a stronger case for short seasons to get RU and soccer players into the game than there is for off season winter players but even that isn't sustainable development unless there's a plan to move to a full season. Chester Gladiators and Bury Broncos have survived where the other expansion NW clubs didn't precisely because they played a full season.

Edited by bowes, 30 September 2012 - 06:06 PM.

[SPM]

York Lokomotive have used just over thirty players this season, all our own, couple of older heads the rest rookies who've performed well against seasoned opposition, we would have done alot better without very early season injuries to experianced lads.
Every York team is struggling, Heworth failed to field a first team the other week, NEAB are asking us for players for the winter, Acorn are the only club with a genuinely strong first team squad, the 'A' is a mixed bag.

[Marauder]

Doubling up seasons never worked. We would have folded if we hadn't cleared out the vast majority of the RU players. Plenty of clubs want a full summer season. You can't ban York Acorn from playing summer purely so another club can borrow their players. Why don't we make Marauders play summer so Doncaster Toll Bar are stronger in winter?

There's a stronger case for short seasons to get RU and soccer players into the game than there is for off season winter players but even that isn't sustainable development unless there's a plan to move to a full season. Chester Gladiators and Bury Broncos have survived where the other expansion NW clubs didn't precisely because they played a full season.

Not saying banning anyone have I? and why does it have to be a full season? and if the converts decided they like rugby league they could go and play a full season in the winter as well as playing in the summer as for the Marauders going summer, we sat out a winter season and 8 players did go to play for Toll Bar, They got promoted.

[Marauder]

York Lokomotive have used just over thirty players this season, all our own, couple of older heads the rest rookies who've performed well against seasoned opposition, we would have done alot better without very early season injuries to experianced lads.
Every York team is struggling, Heworth failed to field a first team the other week, NEAB are asking us for players for the winter, Acorn are the only club with a genuinely strong first team squad, the 'A' is a mixed bag.

Didn't NEAB win by 40 points this week.

[bowes]

Not saying banning anyone have I? and why does it have to be a full season? and if the converts decided they like rugby league they could go and play a full season in the winter as well as playing in the summer as for the Marauders going summer, we sat out a winter season and 8 players did go to play for Toll Bar, They got promoted.

If clubs want to play summer it should be a full season where possible as a full season is what all clubs should thrive for. No club in a short season can ever have a secure player as we've seen in South Wales and to a lesser extent London which the RLC championed as the high point of their development ignoring the midlands and north east. South Wales has collapsed and London bar Skolars has stagnated. South London do well at juniors but are much weaker at open age.

Edited by bowes, 30 September 2012 - 07:07 PM.

[Marauder]

If clubs want to play summer it should be a full season where possible as a full season is what all clubs should thrive for. No club in a short season can ever have a secure player as we've seen in South Wales and to a lesser extent London which the RLC championed as the high point of their development ignoring the midlands and north east. South Wales has collapsed and London bar Skolars has stagnated. South London do well at juniors but are much weaker at open age.

Apart from stating the obvious you seem to be saying all the development work by the RFL in those areas has been a waste of time?
Or are you sounding and being a little arrogant now as you look down on other developing clubs in those areas because you feel your club can now afford and fulfil a full season and many others can't because they are still working in the way the RLC was set up to do..

[bowes]

Apart from stating the obvious you seem to be saying all the development work by the RFL in those areas has been a waste of time?
Or are you sounding and being a little arrogant now as you look down on other developing clubs in those areas because you feel your club can now afford and fulfil a full season and many others can't because they are still working in the way the RLC was set up to do..

No I'm saying short season development is worthwhile only if part of a long term plan to become something more. Off season development has a shelf life when players born out from 12 month rugby.

[Gav Wilson]

Making the Summer clubs like York Lokos stand on their own two feet by developing their own players/juniors.

Whats the problem?