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[superten]

As an Eagles fan I will be heading to Leigh sports village twice to see Leigh v Eagles and Swinton v Eagles.Its such ashame Swinton couldnt share Salford new stadium.Salford new stadium is closer for Swinton fans and gives away fans in championship something different and new to experience.If only the new stadium was built as a joint equal partnership between the two clubs surely it would have made sense as both clubs are not exactly flash with cash.Its disapointing and what makes things worst it seems Salford cant wait for Sale to jump into bed with them at the stadium.

[Gav Wilson]

...Its disapointing and what makes things worst it seems Salford cant wait for Sale to jump into bed with them at the stadium.

Haha. This should be fun...

[WSCR]

As an Eagles fan I will be heading to Leigh sports village twice to see Leigh v Eagles and Swinton v Eagles.Its such ashame Swinton couldnt share Salford new stadium.Salford new stadium is closer for Swinton fans and gives away fans in championship something different and new to experience.If only the new stadium was built as a joint equal partnership between the two clubs surely it would have made sense as both clubs are not exactly flash with cash.Its disapointing and what makes things worst it seems Salford cant wait for Sale to jump into bed with them at the stadium.

I don't know where you get your information from Ref Sale but I know no one connected with the club who want to get into bed with them and after attending a fans forum earlier today at the stadium I can safely that the opposite applies.

I agree that Swinton sharing the ground would appeal to most people in the area as the better proposition.

[timhammonds]

They shared the willows before it closed and neither has bags of money or the greatest crowds. In an attempt to break into the Manchester area some might suggest it time to merge, I hope not as I wish to maintain two distinct clubs and hope to one day see them both in SL in their own stadiums.

[superten]

They shared the willows before it closed and neither has bags of money or the greatest crowds. In an attempt to break into the Manchester area some might suggest it time to merge, I hope not as I wish to maintain two distinct clubs and hope to one day see them both in SL in their own stadiums.

[superten]

I wouldnt merge the clubs as both are two great clubs with lots of history and tradition.But ground share could be a good option maybe even have a couple of double headers a season . Maybe even rebrand Swinton lions and call them Swinton Town Blues to rival the Salford City Reds

[bowes]

They ideally want about a 5000 capacity stadium in Swinton. Think they're looking at that or possibly a bit bigger. Salford is far too big but long term Leigh is madness.

[PaulT]

Swinton Town Blues? Haha.. We've had the Lions nickname since the 19th century and adopted it to the proper name in 1996.

A ground share at Barton was an option, but they were asking us for too much money. We could have stayed at the Willows but we would have had to foot the bill including the insurance costs, and not a dig to Weaste, just a fact, due to the area, the insurance costs were unafordable.

LSV is our best option at the moment, not the most ideal, but the best until the Agecroft Stadium is built.

As regards to the new stadium, so far, all cogs that need turning on it being built are being turned.

[The Parksider]

Swinton Town Blues? Haha.. We've had the Lions nickname since the 19th century and adopted it to the proper name in 1996.

A ground share at Barton was an option, but they were asking us for too much money. We could have stayed at the Willows but we would have had to foot the bill including the insurance costs, and not a dig to Weaste, just a fact, due to the area, the insurance costs were unafordable.

LSV is our best option at the moment, not the most ideal, but the best until the Agecroft Stadium is built.

As regards to the new stadium, so far, all cogs that need turning on it being built are being turned.

If Swinton were to play at Salford they may as well become Salford reserves/nursery club.

Anyone prepared to travel to Barton for their RL can go see the Reds instead and any decent players Swinton ever get could not be more available for Reds to entice away.

Barton would swallow the club up as it swallows it's money. Barton would keep Swinton tiny.

They won't be a SL club in the future, but if they aspire to 1,000 fans in a cost effective stadium in th Championship, then they need to get on being Swinton in Swinton.

[dogthebountyhunter]

Aren't Swinton the areas original and most successful club? Or like the town's identity, are the In Salford Council trying to hide that fact?

[PaulT]

Yes, historically we're a more successful club than Salford Reds and yes probably, we don't get any where near as much support as Salford Reds. They sponsor the odd game which is nothing more than a patronising pat on the head in my opinion.

[The Parksider]

Aren't Swinton the areas original and most successful club?

I don't know what you mean by area, certainly Wigan are the most sucessful club.

If you mean in the Salford/Manchester siamese twin cities, certainly swinton are more successful historically than Salford.

But there's a massive difference between having a great history and getting it back.

My club Hunslet are named after a part of a city and have hit the same heights as Swinton. Getting that history back is nigh on impossible as we are dominated by Superleague Leeds in a fashion which starves us of the ability to get fans in any number and players of any note.

Some clubs with a great history like Fartown, Widnes and Wakey can get it back because their circumstances - mainly geographical seperation and larger town identity - gives them this opportunity.

[Jonty]

The only long-term sustainable future for Swinton IMO is for them to be playing out of a venue in Swinton itself. Whether the current custodians of the club can deliver on that remains to be seen. A Swinton club that re-connects with the community primarily in their home borough, and also to a lesser extent in the areas of north-west Manchester that traditionally identified with the club, would be an asset to the Championship. There is almost twenty years of trust to re-build.

Personally I'm yet to be convinced that the current "owners" can deliver.

[superten]

Swinton Town Blues? Haha.. We've had the Lions nickname since the 19th century and adopted it to the proper name in 1996.

A ground share at Barton was an option, but they were asking us for too much money. We could have stayed at the Willows but we would have had to foot the bill including the insurance costs, and not a dig to Weaste, just a fact, due to the area, the insurance costs were unafordable.

LSV is our best option at the moment, not the most ideal, but the best until the Agecroft Stadium is built.

As regards to the new stadium, so far, all cogs that need turning on it being built are being turned.

[superten]

I like Swinton they are my second club ever since in live in Swinton south yorkshire .I would love to see them get back to the glory days and see a Salford , Swinton derbie in super league . Who knows one day it could happen in the mean time good luck to them this season and lets hope a stadium gets sorted soon and they stay competitive this season.As for the nickname thing they could still have the nickname of the lions but just possibly Swinton town blues as main name . Afterall you dont see Hull KR robins do you but every one knows that they are nicknamed the robins.

[PaulT]

I like Swinton they are my second club ever since in live in Swinton south yorkshire .I would love to see them get back to the glory days and see a Salford , Swinton derbie in super league . Who knows one day it could happen in the mean time good luck to them this season and lets hope a stadium gets sorted soon and they stay competitive this season.As for the nickname thing they could still have the nickname of the lions but just possibly Swinton town blues as main name . Afterall you dont see Hull KR robins do you but every one knows that they are nicknamed the robins.

The name 'Swinton Town Blues' would be an obvious pot shot and Salford and would achieve nothing apart from making us look like idiots changing our name just for a weak shot.

[PhilCarrington]

Swinton Town Blues? Haha.. We've had the Lions nickname since the 19th century and adopted it to the proper name in 1996.

A ground share at Barton was an option, but they were asking us for too much money. We could have stayed at the Willows but we would have had to foot the bill including the insurance costs, and not a dig to Weaste, just a fact, due to the area, the insurance costs were unafordable.

LSV is our best option at the moment, not the most ideal, but the best until the Agecroft Stadium is built.

As regards to the new stadium, so far, all cogs that need turning on it being built are being turned.

Those cogs seem to be moving slowly. Last June they were due to move to a newly completed ground this April.
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Swinton have had more than their share of problems since they left Station Road, I really hope the latest plans come to fruition.

[Bleep1673]

Those cogs seem to be moving slowly. Last June they were due to move to a newly completed ground this April.
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Swinton have had more than their share of problems since they left Station Road, I really hope the latest plans come to fruition.

That was just the board winding supporters up. There was about as much chance of a stadium in Agecroft by April 2012, as a house on Homes Under The Hammer being built on time and under budget.

It's not just a case of throw up a couple of stands, and leave it at that, there is substructure to be in place as most builders will tell you, financing, planning etc takes ages, even with a friendly Council.

[Celt]

IMO swinton should start the development of their Agecroft ground - but initially, not worry about Spectator facilities. if they concentrate on building offices, high performance gym, etc etc, at first, then they can set themselves up with a permanent
(mancheester) base, and have a proper professional setup in place, that will help attract players in the absence of cash. (As an example, K Penny moved to lowly Sale FC, (who pay 'about 50 quid a game') but train at the palatial carrington facility shared with Sale Sharks. If Swinton could put in a good gym, and possibly (with grant aid)- a 4G 'widnes' pitch, good quality lights etc, they could rent out the facility to other clubs, and have Salford use the ground as their training base (Reds currently train at LSV I believe?) A 4G pitch would also mean all academy sides etc could train and play at the same venue.

This would stabilise the set up, and they could then look to develop the sides of the ground a sa mini-stadium, with a view to eventually playing there. It would need a slightly creative architectural approach - perhaps changing facilities, gym etc at one end, with stands to be added along the sides later, but would be easily attainable.

Glasgow RU - a full time pro setup in Scotland, were training at Scotstoun - which was a great venue to train at... and eventually, with a bit of development of seating areas etc - have moved to playing matches there from next season. A number of players have remarked they were attracted too the Club by the training set up - and this is for full time athletes.

[Father Ted]

Bit of an odd one this -

Salford are expected to stadium share with Sale Sharks and the doubt is not if but when.
However, Sale's owner Brian Kennedy is one of the bidders for Glasgow Rangers Football Club. If he were to be successful in his bid what would he do with Sale? They are losing money by the £m and their market value must be zero so him selling it seems doubtful.
What if he walked away from Sale and just left them to sort out their own business and sport? Stadium share down the pan and Peel are then looking for tennants to share with Salford.
Under those circumstances Salford's bargaining position might improve substantially.
This Rangers soccer stuff should be sorted within a few weeks by the administrators and Kennedy might not be successful. If he were though, what price Sale Sharks?